Velen should become the new Archbishop of the Alliance!

[Garots]

now ur just trolling

btw no idea if the leader of Germany is a spirtual person, SHE could be... i dunno

Since Jun 30, Christian is the German president, and I was using a name of power to fit my example. Someone with diplomatic power would NOT just head over to an allies city and say "hey, im teh new spirits guy leaderz!". He would in turn, offend some people, and he DOESN'T want that. (Velen)

[GennGreymane]

Since Jun 30, Christian is the German president, and I was using a name of power to fit my example. Someone with diplomatic power would NOT just head over to an allies city and say "hey, im teh new spirits guy leaderz!". He would in turn, offend some people, and he DOESN'T want that.

ah forgot about that election

yes lets use modern governments for a fictonal world where elves exist... only known democracy is the gnomish one in this game. i dont even think its a real democracy

[The Madgod]

not fully its a half right

no where is it stated the humans came up with the idea first. it shows that some ppl didnt scim over my wiki article

I did some digging and I am actually 100% correct. From the dwarf article, not the light article, of wowwiki

Interaction between the dwarves and the humans increased, and the two races soon became allies. For instance, it was the humans who taught the dwarves how to write in common.[7] The humans also introduced the dwarves to the Holy Light.

proof: http://www.wowwiki.com/Dwarf (paragraph 3 of "The Alliance")

[Garots]

ah forgot about that election

yes lets use modern governments for a fictonal world where elves exist... only known democracy is the gnomish one in this game. i dont even think its a real democracy

Where do you think lore is based from?

[Chronicle]

according to the wiki article they were the ones who introduced it to the high elves. read it.

I'd kill 11 people for that to happen :O , it could quite potentially bring world peace.

[GennGreymane]

I did some digging and I am actually 100% correct. From the dwarf article, not the light article, of wowwiki



proof: http://www.wowwiki.com/Dwarf (paragraph 3 of "The Alliance")

exelent now according to my wiki article based on the light as a hole. after the dwarves learn of the holy light from the humans according to your artilce, they start to focus more on there titans due to many recent adventures of a certain brann bronzebeard.

according to the light wiki article humans and draenei are still strong with the light while the blood elves and dwarves have dropped in number as church goers. its unknown now with the sunwell if the blood elves go back to church and the dwarves seem more focused on ulduar, uldum, uldaman, ect

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Where do you think lore is based from?

myths

because i rode a dragon to my school

[The Madgod]

exelent now according to my wiki article based on the light as a hole. after the dwarves learn of the holy light from the humans according to your artilce, they start to focus more on there titans due to many recent adventures of a certain brann bronzebeard.

according to the light wiki article humans and draenei are still strong with the light while the blood elves and dwarves have dropped in number as church goers. its unknown now with the sunwell if the blood elves go back to church and the dwarves seem more focused on ulduar, uldum, uldaman, ect

ahh but this is going offtopic. we're here to discuss the credibility of Velen taking over Benedictus as the leader of the Church of the Holy Light

[Aldarc]

because its logical to use a real life example..... and expect me to use ingame lore to counter it

We expect that your argument is supported by both. And the two are not mutually exclusive. Your arguments have been weak in both aspects.

[GennGreymane]

ahh but this is going offtopic. we're here to discuss the credibility of Velen taking over Benedictus as the leader of the Church of the Holy Light

this is proper debate,

yes its a slight bit off topic. im sure over the years since well most of sw hasnt been updated since vanilla, im sure that draenei and humans have met mingled disscussed and debated lore wise (safe assumption) there are draenei in sw and they fight with the humans in wotlk (although have 0 major lore focus)

people may have heard of velen with in the many years hes been around rougly 3+ or have had a beer with a draenei. the naruu seem to be more common knowledge to most since the battle in sunwell... also tirion who was stuck in the middle of the plauge lands for years seems to know about them.

also im sure every one knows velen is the most knowledgeable about the light (mortal)

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We expect that your argument is supported by both. And the two are not mutually exclusive.

WHOA i have to say draenei exist in real life and prove it? i also have to prove that the holy light is infact a god and is equal to the god in rl people worship? (even though the light isnt a god)

[Alex86el]

i dont see how draenei and belves worship "a diferent light" than humans/dwarves/helves...

light is light, only thing that changes is the -way- they worsh.. ahem, follow it.

i also think its time for bliz to stop mimicking the pope, with the names and the hats and all that, and come up with an original archbishop.
maybe a woman? ;o

[Vasti]

I second your proposal. Velen is the only dranei that I don't hate...the rest of them are ugly space-goats/squids/cows that are sci-fi and not fitting to WoW. (swap em out with the broken and im happy, also retcon the spaceship stuff)

[Garots]

myths

because i rode a dragon to my school

I know that, I am not you. However, Blizzard gets a lot of ideas from this real world. Saying Blizzard makes all of this up has no credibility.

Also, this is the most debate iv'e had in a while.

[GennGreymane]

i dont see how draenei and belves worship "a diferent light" than humans/dwarves/helves...

light is light, only thing that changes is the -way- they worsh.. ahem, follow it.

i also think its time for bliz to stop mimicking the pope, with the names and the hats and all that, and come up with an original archbishop.
maybe a woman? ;o

its more of a follow than worship. also lore wise there are no actual rituals to follow the light so its only an assumption that the draenei and humans are differnt

btw i just thought of somthing

shammys..... orc shammys seem to lead the hordes shammys..... but they arnt from azeroth either

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I know that, I am not you. However, Blizzard gets a lot of ideas from this real world. Saying Blizzard makes all of this up has no credibility.

yea real world myths

because a naga actually stole my bike.... they dont even have feet!

[Chronicle]

Here, made you a banner for your signatures.

[GennGreymane]

Here, made you a banner for your signatures.

i like it

[Garots]

yea real world myths

because a naga actually stole my bike.... they dont even have feet!

What you're saying now has no relevance to the current topic, and is you saying myths aren't real.

[GennGreymane]

What you're saying now has no relevance to the current topic, and is you saying myths aren't real.

its not real life they draw from, its myths and legends that have been used to make role playing games for years that wow is based on

with the occasional funny reference

[Dark Side]

and i partied while i was away, and had some ingame duels with darkside

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You.... Your.... Serious? You might actual be telling the truth @.@

[Phenomina]

Here, made you a banner for your signatures.

Very nice work

[Chronicle]

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You.... Your.... Serious?

Since when did you have a new avatar :O I like this one.
But how do you always find every thread in which you are mentioned?