what are the prices for the current frost items??
yeah. That has to do with the English language my friend. Look at the picture. Look at what they are talking about. Most items cost points. A couple items cost a token. So, you can get all your gear with a combination of Valor and Tokens. What item you want depends on what currency is required.
All tier pieces will be fully buy able with Valor Points. However if you want the heroic versions of tier gear you will need tokens just like the 264 ICC Tier upgrades they will drop from bosses.
Cataclysm daily Heroic dungeon -- 75 Valor Points
And failed again.
For the love of god I hope they change their minds about rewarding Valor points with the Daily Random.
I understand they wanted to make the feature popular in Lich king, but we've all seen it, we like it to some extent, we're still going to use it when we need to, stop giving the best rewards for a feature which so easily becomes menial and aggravating. This feature is one of the main reasons epic items are so easily acquired now. Change it, please.
Firelord is the tier 11 for mages:
http://media.mmo-champion.com/images...pointprice.jpg
Picture says differently. According to that, helm and shoulders require a token. Interestingly, if you notice, they are going BACK to slot specific tokens again, but just those two shots; shoulders and helm.
I don't see why people complain about the daily random awarding some valor. If you look at the cost of things it will take them weeks to get a single item while people that raid will have everything they want months before. It also lets raiders get that little extra boost to get gear even faster.
Nice. I'm guessing most people will have 4K rolling into the xpac.
^ Agree with davep, malletin, and martinkaca. The reason epics are so "common" is cause NORMAL dungeons are dropping epics. As well as heroics dropping epics from every boss. Plus, you have tons of pugs running old dungeons up the wazo that drops easy epics. Epics are very common because they are junk now (Naxx is all epics ... it's worse than "green" these days).
Daily heroic bullshit again and rewarding raid points from daily heroic and more points for 25man fucking fails.
http://media.mmo-champion.com/images...pointprice.jpg
(fyi, Firelord is mage Tier 11)
What you're missing to see here though, is that Tier 11 will be set back to Justice points when the new Tier comes out. So its not so much the issue of receiving Valor points with which you can buy the Tier 11, it will just become the Justice set the Tier after that anyway. Just like it started with WotLK.Originally Posted by Theprophecy2186
-> Downraking the Old Tier <- Is what makes Epics so easily attainable.. the Valors per Daily mean absolutely nothing.
We're talking 75 a day.. items cost +- 1650 valor: that means 1650/75= 22 dailies for 1 tier 11 Item. I don't see the issue really. Lets do some math: 5 items = 5x 22 = 110 days, which equals to approximately 16 weeks. Or even 4 months.. to get 5 Tier 11 items. Again.. I ask, what is the problem? I'm talking 4 months, of doing a daily -each single day- just for 5 items. I fail to see where that is not dedication. Holy christ I'm glad that I can raid and just get one or two items a week and have the set within half a month. Honestly, if someone doesn't have the means to raid, but does have the dedication to spend those 110 days they have my blessing.
You're really making a fuss about nothing, the issue with easy epics arrives only the second that the new Tier arrives.
In case you didn't notice nothing changes in regard to the daily heroic, you get 75 Valor Points killing a raid boss (Well 105 on 25), you get 75 Valor Points completing the first heroic per day, likewise you get right now 2 Frost Emblems killing a raid boss, and you get 2 Frost Emblems completing the first heroic per day.
However seems it will be impossible to go back and get old tier since you'll not gain JP above 80 which seems kinda strange to me, why couldn't they just have introduced a 3rd type of points for old content, that way the new points values wouldn't have to be so high as well, oh well.
Also yes you'll be able to get 2 pieces of blue level 85 gear with JP from lvl 80 content but really big deal, will just help you gear up for heroics a bit faster.