Go on then..... Do it better

[Mamut]

You're right , that's exactly why the game is such a hot steaming pile of shit.

Well I just cant understand some people here. If game is fun for me I play it, if its no longer fun for me I dont play anymore. But people on this forum are so entitled that they think its their game and devs have no rights to try different things because it does not match their "vision" how WoW should look.

And btw according to forums game is dead and pile of shiit since TBC.

[styil]

I thought this was a FelPlague thread for a second there.

[Low Hanging Fruit]

I work for an engineering firm and we have a project right now to build a bridge over a river for a rather large highway. Lets say we build it, design it like shit, and it ends up damaged or god bless falls into the water. When people start bitching about it one of the dumbest things we could say would be "well then you do better then!"

Because its just dumb to assume simply because people that can identify the problem are always the people to fix the problem.

[Wangming]

Not now. I'm busy. But when I get time I will throw out a story concept and my ideas for a class revamp. Maybe with added housing.

[Eleccybubb]

Not now. I'm busy. But when I get time I will throw out a story concept and my ideas for a class revamp. Maybe with added housing.

Can you make Enhance Shaman fun again please?

[tankbug]

A few thoughts:

- If Blizzard can't entertain you no more, they have failed at their job OR you're no longer their target consumer.
- Even though you can't do it better yourself, you can still be critical at someone's performance, because your point of reference doesn't have to be your personally best. But remember that you speak only for yourself, and if the market is going in a different direction than you'd like, that doesn't mean that Blizzard's developers are running around like headless chickens.
- People on mmo-champion are often populists, and jump on the "issue x"-bandwagon once they don't feel as good about the game as they used to, often elitist concerns about progression, rewards and exclusivity. Things that would be great for the "1%", but maybe not relevant or even restrictive for the casual gamer, who are the bread and butter for Blizzard.
- A feature costs time and money to design, implement and maintain. They always have to prioritize. And a lot of work goes on "under the hood", for stability and security, and these are improvements that you can't sell to consumers, they just elevate the quality of the product.

[Stonecloak]

Negativity draws attention unfortunately. That’s why people fill their YouTube channels with negative videos. Simple as that really, if people liked watching positive videos, they’d switch to making positive videos. YouTube rewards channels that get views. So, it’s a cycle of negativity

[Cainium]

So 8.2 is on the horizon , it's being tested on the PTR, every content creator has thrown out as many videos as possible about the heart of azeroth, essences, mechagon in order to get their views, subs and more. The positive videos are done and now they spin it on its head to bring the negativity and gain more views and subs.
I'm no huge fan of absolutely everything in this xpac or even any xpac for that matter, But people will complain about anything blizzard do now i feel.
I would love to see them do better. So instead of picking at whats wrong with the current stuff. Tell us their foolproof ideas that come with no downsides, are perfect in every way and no one would dislike.
Maybe an idea right here could make it into 9.0?

Like other have already said, negativity draw attention.

But Blizzard put WoW into this position themselve. A game which targets "any" player always contains stuff that "any" player dislikes. At it's worst, the primary gameplay needs to be the lowest common denominator among all of these players, which makes the game attackable even more.

A simple example:
- People complaining about that classes don't feel unique. Well, compared to Vanilla wo don't have classes, but we have specialisations.
- That is caused by people wanting EVERY "spec" to be "viable". Ignoring the fact that, during vanilla, most cookie-cutter specs have been hybrids between multiple skill-trees. Which was responsible for CLASS IDENTITY.
- People complain about that their spec is not viable in M+, 'cause it lacks utility, AoE or something else.
- But having specs designed with strengths and weaknesses to provie SPEC IDENTITY not all spec can be viable in M+ 'cause at least some of them have to lack something that is important in M+.
- The WoW gameplay isn't complex enough to justify over 30 different playstyles which are all equally strong but different.

There is no way to solve this issue with the current design philosophie. It's impossible by logic.

The game needs a major revamp, but Blizzard won't do this for two reasons:
- The current design draws enough attention to make money with the game.
- The current design allows them to implement new stuff relatively fast, 'cause the lowest common denominator is basically trash-tier gameplay.

[Reaper0329]

Massive Fan of Preach, Knows what he's talking about, guarantee he would have made the latest blizzard gathering a better place with his opinions

Agreed 100%. It's bullshit they cut him from the summit. Yeah the ban was justified (though handled poorly, with the typical Blizzard..."elegance"), but cutting him from the summit over something so relatively trivial...I hate to use the word, really, but it almost strikes me as virtue signaling by Blizz. At the very least, a matter of cutting off their nose to spite their face.

[NoiseTank13]

Agreed 100%. It's bullshit they cut him from the summit. Yeah the ban was justified (though handled poorly, with the typical Blizzard..."elegance"), but cutting him from the summit over something so relatively trivial...I hate to use the word, really, but it almost strikes me as virtue signaling by Blizz. At the very least, a matter of cutting off their nose to spite their face.

Not bringing a guy who actively harmed their product by legitimizing it on stream to their viewers, and who also got many of their viewers banned by getting them to go along with it, was the right call.

For as much as people hate exploiters, they sure hate it when exploiters who are also streamers get caught.

[Reaper0329]

Not bringing a guy who actively harmed their product by legitimizing it on stream to their viewers, and who also got many of their viewers banned by getting them to go along with it, was the right call.

For as much as people hate exploiters, they sure hate it when exploiters who are also streamers get caught.

I'm not defending the exploit itself (nor is he, for that matter), nor do I really care about Preach's status as a streamer per se. I'm saying the guy has good ideas and a fairly level-headed approach to the game and its systems; a single stupid decision doesn't invalidate that.

[Wangming]

Can you make Enhance Shaman fun again please?

Well I can't MAKE them more fun. I'm not a programmer. But I can figure out what needs to be done to make them fun.

But realy. Do it better is the dumbest argument ever. If average people with no game developing experience couldn't provide valuable feedback, we wouldn't have beta test and PTR. Professional food or movie critics wouldn't exist. The game isn't fun and it doesn't take a pro to realize this.