Yay! New 8.2 Profession Gear Is BOP!!!!

[dcc626]

they are also as good as mythic gear, i thought you wanted the professions you hcoose to matter, instead of just buyying a piece off AH

was looking at leatherworking gear this morning (for example). the pieces now seem to have guaranteed sockets. but they are 425/440 instead of 430/445. not

[Grevmak]

Oh that's why they renamed Trade Skills to Professions back in Beta.

Seriously, why is Blizz so freaking bad at making professions feel fun, useful or at the very least not like a waste of time?

[ls-]

Oh that's why they renamed Trade Skills to Professions back in Beta.

Seriously, why is Blizz so freaking bad at making professions feel fun, useful or at the very least not like a waste of time?

IIRC, in one interview they said that they're designing professions in vacuum, that they didn'tt design them w/ economy/market and their interactions w/ other professions in mind. That's why professions feel so lacklustre and out of place.

[FelPlague]

was looking at leatherworking gear this morning (for example). the pieces now seem to have guaranteed sockets. but they are 425/440 instead of 430/445. not

they should be on par with mythic gear, for example my engineering gogles are 415, and upgrade to 420, they also have unique azerite traits found on nothing else

[DonDalle]

doesnt the high end profession gear (400+ ilvl) require 150/150 profession skill to equip anyway? the only gear im aware thats BoE is the crafter pvp gear

yea that requirement should also be removed.

Like how does it makes a sense that you have to a leatherworker to be able to wear a piece of leather armor?
You dont see real life tailored items that only the tailor can wear

[crakerjack]

I have no issue with this. I enjoyed back in the day when you picked up a profession because it benefited you in raids. I still pick alchemy on a lot of my characters simply for the double flask duration. If other professions provided benefits in raids, I'd probably have more diversity among my alts.

[schwarzkopf]

As it should be.

Indeed.... you are never meant to be able to USE the gear you craft.

That would be silly.

[Polarthief]

they are also as good as mythic gear, i thought you wanted the professions you hcoose to matter, instead of just buyying a piece off AH

If the extremes are "profession choice matters, 2 BoP pieces" and "profession choice doesn't matter, 2 BoE pieces", I'd definitely take the latter because professions should be about self-benefits, sure, but not if that completely comes at the cost of not being able to make profits.

Engineering has been the profession that's always been about self-benefit > profits, but now almost every profession is feeling like that. It's why you see a crapton more Alchemists and Enchanters because both of those get some decent self-benefits mixed with turning crazy profits (as both are always needed). The 2 BoPs can also be replaced by WF/TF drops, or just mythic raiding in general (and if you aren't mythic raiding or doing high-end M+ pushing, you don't need 415s anyway).

I have no issue with this. I enjoyed back in the day when you picked up a profession because it benefited you in raids. I still pick alchemy on a lot of my characters simply for the double flask duration. If other professions provided benefits in raids, I'd probably have more diversity among my alts.

"Back in the day", you would have self benefits as well as making profits. Right now, Blacksmiths and Leatherworkers have almost nothing that actually assists them with the latter. Tailoring at least has bags. Follower Items do nothing when missions suck ass and aren't worth the ridiculous material amount to craft/buy them. Mount Equipment will be fairly irrelevant once everyone has flight and won't care til 9.0. As a decent mix/best of both worlds, maybe they could let the i400 pieces (AKA: the Heroic raiding/M10+ equivalent piece) be BoE (as well as the Normal piece before it and neither one requiring the profession), then make the 415 (Mythic Raiding piece) be BoP and require the profession to wear. That would be a very nice compromise, though they would need to make the normal/heroic piece not have mats tied to the raid, or at least let the mats be obtainable from the weekly M+ cache as well as raiding.

[Super Kami Dende]

High quality gear being BoP is good since it actually does make having a profession worth while. Since you then have to specialise in something to get good quality gear. Catch up lower quality epics being bought is fine though.
It's why I was always so sad when they took away Master smithing from TBC. When I was running around with Stormherald I felt as though I worked to get it.

[dcc626]

they should be on par with mythic gear, for example my engineering gogles are 415, and upgrade to 420, they also have unique azerite traits found on nothing else

well, the ones on the ptr currently are not (at least going through wowhead ptr files they are not) but like i said, they have sockets. they also dont take mats from the raid. so im guessing this is something new.

[trapmaster]

Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BOP!!!!!!

i have to do this... BUT WHY?

[Farabee]

well, the ones on the ptr currently are not (at least going through wowhead ptr files they are not) but like i said, they have sockets. they also dont take mats from the raid. so im guessing this is something new.

I'd actually be OK with this on my alts. Would much rather have a socket over 5 ilvls since sockets are (at an average) worth about 10 ilvls, depending on current stat weights for your class. Especially if I don't have to drag my poor alts through shitty Heroic pugs week after week again to enjoy them in M+ this time around.

[Marrilaife]

The 370 combattant gear is BoE as the 340 are; 410/425/440 gear is BoP just the same as 385/400/415 now.

So basically, this isn't even news?

Like how does it makes a sense that you have to a leatherworker to be able to wear a piece of leather armor?

You can blame method and their likes who instead of sticking to 2 professions like everyone, decided to cheese the system and roll engi / alchemy, get the items then reroll jc / armor type prof and get 5 items total. They still managed to get the benefit of these slots being unlocked for tradeable gear (i.e. can no longer equip engi helmet but can trade azerite helmets of that ilvl to other group members). But basically restrictions were put to discourage people from making 2 lw items, dropping lw and rerolling let's say jc / alchemy while keeping the items, as that would encourage all the hardcores and wannabe hardcores to min max swap professions into getting all the items.

[irdsyd]

I rotate between 6 toons (3 cloth wearers and 3 leather/mail) and choose a main for each expansion. They keep the same professions (lw, tailoring, enchanting, alchemy, scribe, jc and engineering). It's sort of annoying that only the 2 armor makers get 2 ilvl 440 gear pieces - and my main which this expansion is a scribe gets zip. I wish they'd make the high level crafted items BoA and if they want to limit how many crafted max level items a toon can equip put a cap of 2 or 3 as they did in WOD.

[DonDalle]

So basically, this isn't even news?

You can blame method and their likes who instead of sticking to 2 professions like everyone, decided to cheese the system and roll engi / alchemy, get the items then reroll jc / armor type prof and get 5 items total. They still managed to get the benefit of these slots being unlocked for tradeable gear (i.e. can no longer equip engi helmet but can trade azerite helmets of that ilvl to other group members). But basically restrictions were put to discourage people from making 2 lw items, dropping lw and rerolling let's say jc / alchemy while keeping the items, as that would encourage all the hardcores and wannabe hardcores to min max swap professions into getting all the items.

I was talking about from a RP perspective, so it still does not make any sense it cannot be sold. It is still retarded. You can only make the items to mark that slot as you alrdy had a 415. You cannot keep all the items the way Method did it. You have to scrap it for the breaths. And that is not Methods fault the system is like that. It is the casual scrubs that have whined over masterlooting, so they have forced method the get master loot back the best way possible. Cuz the removal of ML was a big hit for the good guilds, but also to the MMORPG part of the game.

[Druidzorz]

was looking at leatherworking gear this morning (for example). the pieces now seem to have guaranteed sockets. but they are 425/440 instead of 430/445. not

440+socket is better than 445.

[lagiacrux]

- omg, crafted gear is BOP! how are we supposed to make money
- omg, you can just buy gear from AH! P2W confirmed!!!!

pick one ....

[erifwodahs]

You have to have skill to wear it anyway I think? Anyway, it does not matter.

[Rainlights]

It'd be nice if crafted profession gear was bind on account so you could make alts gear and whatnot.

[Marrilaife]

Worst part if you unlock it as transmog it doesn't count for alts without that profession. I was grinding the pants from BODA for mog while hearing from a guildie "just get blacksmithing lul", yeah, no thx, then what, make every plate alt of mine a bs if I want to use that transmog? And level to 150 bfa rank? How come they removed rep requirements for mogs but not prof requirements especially on items that have the same model available from outside of profession too.