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It's nothing to do with the playstyle, the numbers are awful in practice on encounters.Originally Posted by schwarzkopf
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2019-07-17, 08:00 AM #21Scarab Lord
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2019-07-17, 08:06 AM #22The One Sane Man
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If they try and play arcane like fire or frost - then of course they will be horrible. Originally Posted by Nitros14
Anything which people rarely play because of perception will have a lot of people that aren't that good at playing it
Challenge Mode : Play WoW like my disability has me play:
You will need two people, Brian MUST use the mouse for movement/looking and John MUST use the keyboard for casting, attacking, healing etc.
Briand and John share the same goal, same intentions - but they can't talk to each other, however they can react to each other's in game activities.
Now see how far Brian and John get in WoW.
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2019-07-17, 08:13 AM #23Scarab Lord
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I've played arcane for years. Arcane is bad right now. Originally Posted by schwarzkopf
If they try and play arcane like fire or frost - then of course they will be horrible.
Anything which people rarely play because of perception will have a lot of people that aren't that good at playing it
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2019-07-17, 08:31 AM #24The One Sane Man
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Workman, tools etc.... Arcane is just fine. Originally Posted by Nitros14
Challenge Mode : Play WoW like my disability has me play:
You will need two people, Brian MUST use the mouse for movement/looking and John MUST use the keyboard for casting, attacking, healing etc.
Briand and John share the same goal, same intentions - but they can't talk to each other, however they can react to each other's in game activities.
Now see how far Brian and John get in WoW.
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2019-07-17, 08:44 AM #25Scarab Lord
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I assure you, I have some idea what I'm doing with arcane. Originally Posted by schwarzkopf
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/charact...narion#zone=17
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/charact...21&spec=Arcane
I can also read a log.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/st...lty=4&sample=1 At 99th, 95th, 75th and max percentile arcane mage is the worst spec in the game in the past day, after the 6% buff.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/st...299&dataset=99 Dead last on Azshara.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/st...293&dataset=90 Second last on Za'qul.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/st...311&dataset=90 Second last on Queen's Court.
Six arcane mages have killed mythic Sivara. The highest is still 7k dps below the highest fire mage. And that's a purely single target fight.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/ra...ge&spec=Arcane
Arcane doesn't have the tools to be good at anything but single target or semi-burst aoe in melee range and it's undertuned at that currently.
It'll get slightly better at rank 3 condensed life force, but probably not much. And Blizzard truly does not care.Last edited by Nitros14; 2019-07-17 at 08:47 AM.
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2019-07-17, 08:50 AM #26Herald of the Titans
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Stop falling for it. Originally Posted by Nitros14
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2019-07-17, 09:26 AM #27The One Sane Man
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I assure you that if I can pull reasonable numbers as an average player - then a good player would be able to do better. Originally Posted by Nitros14
The issue here is that Arcane is UNPOPULAR... nothing more nothing less.
End of story.
Challenge Mode : Play WoW like my disability has me play:
You will need two people, Brian MUST use the mouse for movement/looking and John MUST use the keyboard for casting, attacking, healing etc.
Briand and John share the same goal, same intentions - but they can't talk to each other, however they can react to each other's in game activities.
Now see how far Brian and John get in WoW.
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2019-07-21, 11:42 AM #28Keyboard Turner
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Didnt they said that they were working on several focused changes ?
Anyway my bad for having hope, I thought that they would do something so we dont play 3 rogues in mm+. Silly me !
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2019-07-21, 07:30 PM #29Banned
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I mean, lets see your reasonable logs, because good players are fire right now. Originally Posted by schwarzkopf
Last edited by Video Games; 2019-07-21 at 07:34 PM.
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2019-07-21, 07:40 PM #30The One Sane Man
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Average players don't keep logs dude .... average player hasn't even been inside palace yet. Originally Posted by Video Games
Challenge Mode : Play WoW like my disability has me play:
You will need two people, Brian MUST use the mouse for movement/looking and John MUST use the keyboard for casting, attacking, healing etc.
Briand and John share the same goal, same intentions - but they can't talk to each other, however they can react to each other's in game activities.
Now see how far Brian and John get in WoW.
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2019-07-21, 07:52 PM #31Banned
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So you have nothing but anecdotes against raw data. Alright, thanks. Originally Posted by schwarzkopf
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2019-07-21, 08:01 PM #32The One Sane Man
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No - I have data, but nothing you would accept because it is just personal recount logs. Originally Posted by Video Games
The problem you have is that you are focusing on logs of the top 0.1% of players - that's an incredibly biased dataset.
Challenge Mode : Play WoW like my disability has me play:
You will need two people, Brian MUST use the mouse for movement/looking and John MUST use the keyboard for casting, attacking, healing etc.
Briand and John share the same goal, same intentions - but they can't talk to each other, however they can react to each other's in game activities.
Now see how far Brian and John get in WoW.
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2019-07-21, 08:08 PM #33Banned
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Except looking through normal through mythic paints the same picture. Arcane is unpopular because its not good. Once again, raw data against your anecdotes. Originally Posted by schwarzkopf
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2019-07-22, 01:16 PM #34I am Murloc!
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They changed their philosophy to balancing specs, spec reworks and balancing raid trinkets this expansion, but I don't have any further details to share. Just based off how their patterns have changed. In general the BFA team has been way more hands off with this, in terms of bringing the top end down and the bottom end significantly up. At least in regards to PVE. They did some stuff with Azerite traits earlier in the xpac and also Essences are those knobs interlinked to specs but it's an across the board thing. Specs should still get attention. My prediction is they changed their philosophy both to the combat the feelings of churn and keeping developers more focused on future content production than in the present, so it was a big efficiency boost. Planned encounter nerfing has been more frequent this expansion. Usually several small waves of nerfs than big ones.
Last edited by MrExcelion; 2019-07-22 at 01:34 PM.
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2019-07-22, 01:25 PM #35Epic!
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Yet another bunch of people who don't understand that perfect balance for every fight can not be achieved, and more importantly that any kind of balance is made around rank3 essences and not around the naked week 1-2 characters you guys initially saw. In other words, nothing has changed on MMOC
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2019-07-22, 02:20 PM #36Epic!
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Any actual class balance updates are usually going to happen after the World First race has already been completed. Making major sweeping changes in the middle of what is the biggest event in current WoW is usually bad for business.
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