Do you want tinkers?

[Rendark]

They don't seem to understand that canon is about the entire world that takes place and not just the story it's focused on.

Yea they have no idea what canon is but they will never admit it. Still it's funny to see them fail to grasp the concept over and over again.

[DotEleven]

Yea they have no idea what canon is but they will never admit it. Still it's funny to see them fail to grasp the concept over and over again.

Seriously, it's a bit crazy. It's like saying the units added to Starcraft 2 in its' expansions aren't part of the universe. Sure they aren't part of the storyline, but they exist in the universe itself and thus, the canon.

[Teriz]

I think if the Tank spec has the mech as its primary theme, that giving other specs a mech would detract from that. But I have nothing against the heal or dps specs have tiny bots or drones and the like. It simply shouldn't take a form that's anything like what the tank spec uses, just to keep the identities of each spec separate and individual.

Possibly. I do think that there will be people out there who would like to use a mech in a DPS role though, and it would be a good idea for Blizzard to accommodate them with at least a cooldown. Personally, I'd like to see mechs play a huge role within the entire class. Basically giving each spec a type of mech for their combat or support purposes.

[HerrGrim]

By that logic we wouldn't have Death Knights, Monks, or Demon Hunters.

Maybe so, but I stand by my "No", until they start doing some adjustments so the FOTM maybe stays Flavor of the Month, and not Flavor of the Expansion...

[Ielenia]

They were made by the same people that made the story so they are in the world.

That's not how it works. Only what is explicitly shown in a story can be considered part of the story. Otherwise, they shouldn't be considered part of it unless the authors/developers say they are.

The multiplayer is not canon but the things found in it are.

Not unless you can produce a statement from Blizzard saying that they are.

If something is made by the person who made the world and its stories then it's canon unless they say it's not.

That's not how it works. The multiplayer features of WC3 have no bearing in the story campaigns, and by virtue of that, should not be considered canon unless we have a statement from Blizzard saying otherwise.

When the dlc for FNAF 4 came out the creator made a point of saying it was not canon. He just made it for fun.

The DLC for FNAF4 altered how the story was presented, hence why it was required to be explicit about its canonicity. The multiplayer features of WC3 do not alter at all the story campaigns.

Yea they have no idea what canon is but they will never admit it. Still it's funny to see them fail to grasp the concept over and over again.

Actually, you're the one who have no idea what canon is. Canon pertains to the story, which is why only the WC3 official campaigns and manuals are to be considered canon, and not the multiplayer features of the game.

[SirCowdog]

Possibly. I do think that there will be people out there who would like to use a mech in a DPS role though, and it would be a good idea for Blizzard to accommodate them with at least a cooldown. Personally, I'd like to see mechs play a huge role within the entire class. Basically giving each spec a type of mech for their combat or support purposes.

I think it really depends on the overall theme of the class. Is it a mech pilot or a more general Tinker type? Tinker seems like a more broad concept, while having a Mech-oriented theme for each spec seems much more specific.

[Watchers]

nobody wants tinkers we want a cool class, now hopefully the tinker guys will shut up

[Rendark]

That's not how it works. Only what is explicitly shown in a story can be considered part of the story. Otherwise, they shouldn't be considered part of it unless the authors/developers say they are.

You still don't know what canon means. Your inability to understand it is impressive. Seeing as your so dead set on the campaign of warcraft 3 being the only thing that is canon, you must have proof of that right?

[DotEleven]

nobody wants tinkers we want a cool class, now hopefully the tinker guys will shut up

It's funny cause you say that but Tinker is the most popular choice out of ALL options it's just not more popular than all the other options combined.

[jellmoo]

Possibly. I do think that there will be people out there who would like to use a mech in a DPS role though, and it would be a good idea for Blizzard to accommodate them with at least a cooldown. Personally, I'd like to see mechs play a huge role within the entire class. Basically giving each spec a type of mech for their combat or support purposes.

My vote would be to make it a max level Talent. That way DPS Tinkers who want the gameplay of a mech have the option of such an ability (with a cool down) while those that would prefer to play the spec sans mech (like myself) could select another talent instead.

[Weeps]

I find Tinkers to be an absolutely uninspired idea.

Just a repurposed shaman. No thanks.

Give me allied races not more classes.

[Kagdar]

You still don't know what canon means. Your inability to understand it is impressive. Seeing as your so dead set on the campaign of warcraft 3 being the only thing that is canon, you must have proof of that right?

Can we just all agree that for something to be called canon it has to have been stated as being canon from the devs?

Both parties have no source that can clearly state their claim is right over the other so stop pretending your idea of what is canon or not is the true version.

IF you guys want to continue arguing what is the meaning of canon please do so in another topic, i don't want to read another 50 pages of the same argument over and over again. This thread is about tinkers. Ok thanks.

[Rendark]

Can we just all agree that for something to be called canon it has to have been stated as being canon from the devs?

Both parties have no source that can clearly state their claim is right over the other so stop pretending your idea of what is canon or not is the true version.

IF you guys want to continue arguing what is the meaning of canon please do so in another topic, i don't want to read another 50 pages of the same argument over and over again. This thread is about tinkers. Ok thanks.

If you don't want to read it then don't read it. At this point i'm just having fun with the guy since he is so dead set on being wrong.

[SirCowdog]

My vote would be to make it a max level Talent. That way DPS Tinkers who want the gameplay of a mech have the option of such an ability (with a cool down) while those that would prefer to play the spec sans mech (like myself) could select another talent instead.

Make the DPS spec a pet class, with a little mech that could be changed to different forms with a Glyph maybe(does the glyph system even still exist?). I suppose that might tread too much into the realm of hunters though.

The more I think about it the more it seems like the Mech would be either a tank spec only thing, or the entire class would need to be tailored around mechs for all specs, with each role having a uniquely designed mech or shredder. Literal Healbot, LOL!

On a side note, have any of you guys played an Engineer from GW2? That's kind of what I imagine a Tinker would play like, sans power armor.

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IF you guys want to continue arguing what is the meaning of canon please do so in another topic, i don't want to read another 50 pages of the same argument over and over again. This thread is about tinkers. Ok thanks.

Quoted for truth. It's REALLY getting old.

[Alpharius]

nobody wants tinkers we want a cool class, now hopefully the tinker guys will shut up

they never will sadly

[Teriz]

My vote would be to make it a max level Talent. That way DPS Tinkers who want the gameplay of a mech have the option of such an ability (with a cool down) while those that would prefer to play the spec sans mech (like myself) could select another talent instead.

I can support that. If the IE teams are anything to go by, then we are more than likely looking at a DPS spec that somewhat resembles Hunters, just with turrets, robotic summons, and bombs. I do think that we should have another class that can use bows and guns, so if Tinkers can do that, all the better.

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It's funny cause you say that but Tinker is the most popular choice out of ALL options it's just not more popular than all the other options combined.

I wouldn't bother using facts and logic on someone like that.

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Make the DPS spec a pet class, with a little mech that could be changed to different forms with a Glyph maybe(does the glyph system even still exist?). I suppose that might tread too much into the realm of hunters though.

The more I think about it the more it seems like the Mech would be either a tank spec only thing, or the entire class would need to be tailored around mechs for all specs, with each role having a uniquely designed mech or shredder. Literal Healbot, LOL!

On a side note, have any of you guys played an Engineer from GW2? That's kind of what I imagine a Tinker would play like, sans power armor.

I can see the DPS spec being something like that, but I really think ths class shouldn't have robotic minions. If anything, the robots should just be short-term summons. Theres more than enough pet classes and specs in WoW already.

The healing spec (if there is one) I could see being something like Ana from Overwatch and HotS with bio grenades and healing shots from a gun, and a little bit from the Goblin Alchemist hero from WC3. It could even utilize turrets and robots to assist in the healing.

In one of my class concepts, I had the Tinker being able to modify Pocket Factory into a factory that produced an army of heal bots instead of an army of robotic soldiers.

[LorDC]

The healing spec (if there is one) I could see being something like Ana from Overwatch and HotS with bio grenades and healing shots from a gun, and a little bit from the Goblin Alchemist hero from WC3.

Pump-Action Bandage Gun FTW.

[Trollokdamus]

now hopefully the tinker guys will shut up

Because no one should discuss something you don't like, right?

[Teriz]

Pump-Action Bandage Gun FTW.

Yeah, that along with Healing Spray, Adrenaline Bomb and Heal Bot gives a solid template for a healing/support spec imo.

[Lochton]

nobody wants tinkers we want a cool class, now hopefully the tinker guys will shut up

Well, your opinion, and you are of course permitted to be wrong.