"Torturing someone is not an evil thing to do if it is done for good reasons" by Varodoc
"You sit in OG/SW waiting on a Mythic+ queue" by Altmer <- Oh, the pearls in this forum...
"They sort of did this Dragonriding, which ushered in the Dracthyr race." by Teriz <- the BS some people reach for their narratives...
This. The line that Blizzard gives about free will being a cornerstone of Forsaken culture has always been BS. Blizzard thinks it’s cool to have playable Scourge, so they pretzel the lore around them so the other races don’t kill them on sight, but then still have them follow the Scourge playbook as far as their in-game actions/motivations are concerned.
Using Derek Proudmoore as an example, people like to play semantics games and say that physical and mental torture with the goal of breaking someone’s psyche isn’t mind control. Even if we adhere to the aforementioned semantics, what Sylvanas was doing isn’t any better than just straight up using mind control, and in fact can be looked at as being significantly worse.
But if the end result is a person that resembles the original in nothing but appearance, with their minds twisted to hate their former allies and serve their former enemies, that is still 'mind control', even if the person willingly subjected themselves to the servitude under the threat of eternal damnation.
"Torturing someone is not an evil thing to do if it is done for good reasons" by Varodoc
"You sit in OG/SW waiting on a Mythic+ queue" by Altmer <- Oh, the pearls in this forum...
"They sort of did this Dragonriding, which ushered in the Dracthyr race." by Teriz <- the BS some people reach for their narratives...
We can't really end this debate as long as we don't know what happens when night elves (or anyone) dies. Maybe 9.0 will answer that.
It's just sh*t writing, and players need to let others know about it. Best way to do damage to the narrative team is to point out how bad there hack ideas really are. Use there own ideas against them by having players hate/loose interests in the story/lore being made. Now imagine if they tried to put this into a book chargin $20+ for this. Only to be filled with crap and holes. Remember Danuser and Gregory ignored and avoided answering any player questions during that trash twitch stream months ago. Spread the word and point out the crap there making.
I'd be really amused if this turned out to be some Halloween event or a placeholder.
Are you a Forsaken player?
You sound like a Forsaken player.
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It almost does, though, and you just said why it may be important, but you didn't realize it.
She lived in Teldrassil. If she's now been raised, then what do you think that means?
Personally, it sounds like Sylvanas is raising a bunch of Night Elves from within the remains of Teldressil with the whole "Elune abandoned you and let you burn. Join me, and get revenge."
She could easily add "The king of Stormwind let you burn. Where was his army? Where were his Mages to help you escape? Why did Elune let you die?" etc etc.
Not saying "OMG IT'S GOING TO BE AN ALLIED RACE FOR HORDE!", but it could be an interesting plot point at the very least, trying to turn the Night Elves against themselves, and against Stormwind like she wants. However, we won't know until the patch drops. She could've been somewhere else along the coast and been raised without the above, but which sounds more interesting?