"Man is his own star. His acts are his angels, good or ill, While his fatal shadows walk silently beside him."-Rhyme of the Primeval Paradine AFC 54
You know a community is bad when moderators lock a thread because "...this isnt the place to talk about it either seeing as it will get trolled..."
I don't care about Wow 11.0, if it's not solo-MMO. No half-measures - just perfect xpack.
You're on the right track. In general it's a very unimportant discussion to decide what to call or what not to call pay to win; the actual juice of a discussion comes after you decide that because it is only a reference and not an important result; and it's "objectively subjective" anyway: e.g. dictionaries routinely have 2 or more contradicting definitions of the same term because simply big groups of people use both (or more).
In this case it's almost irrelevant how you call "it" (swiping cards and getting boosts); what matters is to express if you think it's good or bad; I personally think it's bad because it contaminates the e-sport part of the game.
In the words of the famous Relapse: If you define the ability to trade real world capital for virtual player power, yes, WoW is P2W.
You forgot the part where Blizzard personally enables the purchase of the currency needed for these transactions, profiting in the process.
Last edited by Darkeon; 2021-10-22 at 03:03 PM.
"Man is his own star. His acts are his angels, good or ill, While his fatal shadows walk silently beside him."-Rhyme of the Primeval Paradine AFC 54
You know a community is bad when moderators lock a thread because "...this isnt the place to talk about it either seeing as it will get trolled..."
I'm gonnna use this quote but I think it applies to most people that ever replied in here;
This whole thread has a gigantic misundestanding about how definitions of phrases and words work in any language in the world ever.
Dictionary writers don't give a single shit if 2 groups of people have contradicting definitions; they will use both definitions given groups that are big enough that use them and they don't care at all if they are contradicting.
That does not make their dictionaries bad; it makes you not understanding that how you define a phrase has little value after a point; what mostly matters in discussions like this is that after you agree with another person about a definition (and you do not become polemic about what phrase-definition is "right" since both may be "right" since big groups may use both) then you go on to the actual juice of what you're talking about and that is to express if you want something in the game or not which is essentially a discussion on ethics because most political discourse in this world (and this is a political discourse "in the politics of gaming design") is about what you simply think is bad or good and that's inherently extremely subjective and that is why so many religions and parties and philosophies (including in game-design) exist.
Last edited by epigramx; 2021-10-23 at 08:36 AM.
lol look at the amount of circles this guy attempts to go through to justify his delusion
dude just accept it, wow is as p2w as people say
You can (indirectly) buy end-game Mythic Raid and Arena gear including titles while trolling those progressing on their own. You can P2W for a long time in WoW like in almost every
MMO these days but the sheer scale of it in WoW these days is insane. Was a time a saw more P2W runs than normal runs.