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    Quote Originally Posted by Faroth View Post
    Furthering what xerus said:

    Complete the MSQ: Levels you up & finishes the story, but you'll have 100 quests after you finish the 2.0 MSQ. You're kind of in the slog zone right now, but the story does pick up after that and is better on the final push to 50. After those, the 100 quests from 2.1 to 3.0 are a slot at first, but get a LOT better story-wise towards the middle to end. If you play through these, I'd recommend particularly paying attention to Lady Yugiri and the Doman refugees and anything with the Crystal Braves as those come up again later in the MSQ and even have story threads that come up at the end of Heavensward to directly lead into Stormblood.

    Your other option:
    $18 MSQ skip potion that will flag all quests up to 3.0 as complete. This would then let you access Astrologian, which starts at 30. You could level it up through various means and play through Heavensward MSQ (notably shorter than ARR in total) as astrologian.
    $25 MSQ skip potion that will flag all quests up to 3.4 as complete and allow you to access Astrologian. You'd only need to level it to 60 by various means to get to Stormblood.

    Level boost potions cost $25 and are sold per job. They level said job to 60. You could buy either MSQ skip + Astrologian level boost potion to start with a level 60 astrologian ready to straight into Stormblood on June 16.

    All potions will be on the mog station on June 16, same day as early access start.
    Thanks both you and @xerus for the info.

    I think I'm gonna level through potd and doing the class quests and buy the potions. I reckon 60-70 leveling will be enough to get me going with the class, although I'll test astrologian in potd before buying the 60 potion.

    Right now I'm level 30 scholar and I find most fun on potd, dungeon and the MSQs while they are OKish they don't give that much xp and feels like a never ending story for me since I want to be an astrologian. It isn't because I don't like leveling through MSQ, is because I'm obsessed with astrologian haha. Dunno if you know what I mean
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyriqo View Post
    Thanks both you and @xerus for the info.

    I think I'm gonna level through potd and doing the class quests and buy the potions. I reckon 60-70 leveling will be enough to get me going with the class, although I'll test astrologian in potd before buying the 60 potion.
    I'm not sure where you are at in the MSQ series but you have to finish ARR (which is 284 MSQ) and unlock Heavensward (which means you have to level something to 50) to be able to play AST if you are looking at doing it pre-SB potions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xerus View Post
    I'm not sure where you are at in the MSQ series but you have to finish ARR (which is 284 MSQ) and unlock Heavensward (which means you have to level something to 50) to be able to play AST if you are looking at doing it pre-SB potions.
    No, not at all. Sorry if I expressed myself badly. I'm gonna continue leveling my scholar until 16th arrives, then get the potions to skip the MSQs and pop an AST

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    Rest in piece thread, we'll miss you.

    Greetings everyone!

    Thank you for all of your feedbacks and we will be closing the thread now.

    Farewell and take care!

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post4186385

  5. #34625
    Yoshi-P has said that there are people with healers who don't use them because of the pressure to DPS. That the removal of Cleric stance hopefully eases these people back into healing.

    (See https://www.bluegartr.com/threads/13...ew-Translation)

    Personally, I kind of hope SE gets fed up and reduces healer DPS to zero in instances. It would settle the argument once and for all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RohanV View Post
    Personally, I kind of hope SE gets fed up and reduces healer DPS to zero in instances. It would settle the argument once and for all.
    If they would do that, I'd simply drop healer and play either tank or DPS in dungeons.

    It's not fun to stand large part of dungeon, doing nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anzaman View Post
    If they would do that, I'd simply drop healer and play either tank or DPS in dungeons.

    It's not fun to stand large part of dungeon, doing nothing.
    The problem with these debates is that a lot of healers - especially in leveling pugs - often find that there's no time to be DPSing at all. Then they get people telling them, "But you're supposed to be DPSing!" and then their paper tank dies in the GCDs that they spend switching stances.

    A lot of this stuff about "AFK healers" doesn't even apply until you're overgearing stuff, have a highly competent or careful group, doing downleveled stuff, or largely trivial content with two healers. There's plenty of other times where a healer can hardly stop spamming heals on their tank for even a moment on trash pulls in 4-mans.

    So yeah, when people speak in absolutes on both sides it just makes the topic that much harder to discuss.

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    Well, stance-dancing is history in about a week, so soon there's no need to worry about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anzaman View Post
    If they would do that, I'd simply drop healer and play either tank or DPS in dungeons.

    It's not fun to stand large part of dungeon, doing nothing.
    Thats the balance. There apparently are a large number of healers who don't heal because of the dps requirement. You gain them back as healers, but lose the healers who are pro-dps. It might be better, it might be worse. It all depends on numbers we don't have.

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    I wish they didn't close that thread.

    It's an important discussion to be had, I think.

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    Healers not dpsing in FFXIv should be banned. There is literally no reason whatsoever for a healer not to dps.

    I don't even know how people can play healers in ffxiv and not dps... how aren't they bored ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graeham View Post
    I wish they didn't close that thread.

    It's an important discussion to be had, I think.
    Now it's just matter of seeing how long until somebody creates new one.

    You would think they'd prefer to have discussion in one place instead of having multiple locked threads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anzaman View Post
    Now it's just matter of seeing how long until somebody creates new one.

    You would think they'd prefer to have discussion in one place instead of having multiple locked threads.
    I feel like it's damage control. In similarly controversial threads they at least stated that they'd be locking the thread to remove some of the more inappropriate replies and would then open it up again later. This time around it feels very final - and if they're legitimately interested in feedback then I would have thought they'd want to leave the thread open to gather as much as possible.

    Given how long it took them to respond properly to the thread surrounding the EU promotion item fiasco, though, I can't claim to be surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilir View Post
    A quick question : did they announce when (hour) the early access starts ?
    FINAL FANTASY XIV: Stormblood Early Access Details


    Friday, June 16, 2017 at around 10:00 (BST) / 09:00 (GMT)

    * There will be maintenance before early access starts. This maintenance will implement updates, expansion data, and various other fixes.
    Characters that have met the requirements to enter Stormblood areas can enjoy FINAL FANTASY XIV: Stormblood right away. Characters that have not met the requirements can continue to play FINAL FANTASY XIV as normal.
    * Due to the maintenance, the early access schedule is subject to change.

    [Maintenance]All Worlds Maintenance (Jun. 15-16)

    [Date & Time]
    Jun. 15, 2017 9:00 to Jun. 16, 2017 9:00 (GMT) Jun. 15, 2017 10:00 to Jun. 16, 2017 10:00 (BST)
    * Completion time is subject to change.

  15. #34635
    Quote Originally Posted by Faroth View Post
    Hehe, trigger dual cast, swiftcast, instant raise, verheal raised person to trigger dual cast, raise a second person.

    I suspect they're going to be a popular DPS class for progression raids learning fights.
    They'll probably be great for finding ways to solo old trials too if they're as sustainable as I suspect they'll be.

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    The only way they could possibly shut up the "healers should dps too" crowd would be to have enough healing requirements throughout the course of a dungeon that a healer isn't sitting there twiddling their thumbs. Whether or not that happens in Stormblood remains to be seen. Personally, I would be surprised if healing requirements in non-Savage/EX content were more demanding. Last time I remember a significant overhaul to healing mechanics/requirements in a MMO was with WoW's Cataclysm, and given the amount of tears on the forums over healing heroics back then, I have little doubt how increased healing demands/requirements in dungeons would go over.

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    Speaking with my FC, the shed some light on not buying the pot as I'll lose lorewise. However, I wanna experience endgame and I'm the grindy kind of player. Not that into questing. /shrugs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazela View Post
    The only way they could possibly shut up the "healers should dps too" crowd would be to have enough healing requirements throughout the course of a dungeon that a healer isn't sitting there twiddling their thumbs. Whether or not that happens in Stormblood remains to be seen. Personally, I would be surprised if healing requirements in non-Savage/EX content were more demanding. Last time I remember a significant overhaul to healing mechanics/requirements in a MMO was with WoW's Cataclysm, and given the amount of tears on the forums over healing heroics back then, I have little doubt how increased healing demands/requirements in dungeons would go over.
    This basically.

    The healing requirements in FFXIV are kinda "low" for what I remember : I might be wrong (and hope I am)because I didn't do the last 2 patch contents.

    Thanks @Anzaman for the quick answer !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyriqo View Post
    Speaking with my FC, the shed some light on not buying the pot as I'll lose lorewise. However, I wanna experience endgame and I'm the grindy kind of player. Not that into questing. /shrugs
    You should by the pots and look at the lore on youtube or whatever. Seriously the amount of story quests is insane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyriqo View Post
    Speaking with my FC, the shed some light on not buying the pot as I'll lose lorewise. However, I wanna experience endgame and I'm the grindy kind of player. Not that into questing. /shrugs
    Eh, everyone will be levelling for the first couple weeks. Not to mention all the players rerolling RDM and SAM. So if you start now and just go steadily through the MSQ, you'll probably reach max level alongside most players. Not the very edge players, but alongside the main wave.

    Also, I don't think any of the endgame raids are launching with 4.0. I think they start coming in a later patch. So you should be able to catch up in time for those launches.

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    Relevant to discussion. Somewhat. Maybe not.

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