1. #50481
    Quote Originally Posted by Wrecktangle View Post
    Just pulled up my healers logs granted this is when things go right, but an abundance of cooldowns and the general power of healing allows this when coupled with the aforementioned encounter design (which we all agree needs some revisiting):

    They cast exactly 13 GCD heals in their recent savage clear.
    • 13 GCD heals across 2 healers.
    • 263 GCDs on damage across both healers.
    • 7 and a half minute fight.


    Just pulled their TEA logs (I did not clear with them, they play too much LOL):
    • 114 GCDs on heals across both healers
    • 398 GCDs on damage across both healers
    • 17 minute fight
    And to some extent that can be fun. Not being a healbot and doing something on top of your normal role. I used to love DPSing as Resto Druid back in the day, actually did enough damage that I think it contributed to close first kills that might have otherwise been wipes.

    Too bad they gutted healer DPS mechanics, though. Alas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrecktangle View Post
    Just pulled up my healers logs granted this is when things go right, but an abundance of cooldowns and the general power of healing allows this when coupled with the aforementioned encounter design (which we all agree needs some revisiting)
    Aye, SE is way too lax with unavoidable damage. Once peeps play mechanics, our job as healers is basically done and it's back to 2 button damage rotation.
    That being said: it does look a little different when it does NOT go according to plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bovinity Divinity View Post
    And to some extent that can be fun.
    Weaving DPS and healing is fun and one of the most attractive things about healing in FF-XIV.
    Problem is when the pendulum swing so far into the DPS area that you forget that you're actually a healer.

    When I am in a dungeon, I can literally forget that I have a tank to keep alive because he just doesn't get enough damage to ever be in danger.
    My passive AoE healing is enough in most situations.

    That is too far, imho.

  3. #50483
    Just finished stormblood completely, the whole of 4.0 was pretty boring tbh even the end, barely above ARR infact it pretty much felt just like ARR in terms of it just laying foundations of the new lands/people but not too much else. But the story started to become interesting when you had a chat with fordola in her cell early in 4.1. After that I i have really enjoyed the story so far.

  4. #50484
    When you said you finished SB completely, you mean you finished 4.5? I had actually been pretty pumped after completing Ghimlyt Dark and the single player duty after it. It's just a pity they went completely left of field from that point because it was as perfect a lead in to a Garlean expansion as anything I could have conceived.

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    I quite liked Stormblood. I felt Heavensward was a let down: the trailer hyped up an epic war against dragons... that never really happened. Instead you just walk around with a dry party of characters and talk to a dragon and then fight another generic evil church, and then there is a 5 minute fight at the end and that's your "Dragonsong War". I also wasn't too fond of the grey color palette and the gothic knights and dragon aesthetic or the gregorian chanting. Whereas I went into Stormblood with low expectations that it'd be a fun adventure romp with a likable cast of characters through Turkey and the Pacific. The expansion had vibrant colors and nice Far Eastern aesthetics. I was pleasantly surprised by the couple lite war sequences, like infiltrating occupied territories like they are North Korea or the final assault on Ala Mhigo.

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  6. #50486
    I just finished HW (on 3.2 currently), and thought it was amazing, especially the last fight. I love the main musical theme of the expansion too, and how it has so many variations, one of the best FF pieces.
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  7. #50487
    welp, Asmongold is streaming FF14 officially, FF14 is at 209k viewers and 200k are his lol. Gonna be a wild ride. He seems pumped though. I'm not an asmon fanboy by any means, but I like to think his publicity will drive more people and exposure to the game (for better or worse, but I do think better).

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    Oh no asmongold started on cactuar....

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  9. #50489
    Quote Originally Posted by Gutler View Post
    Oh no asmongold started on cactuar....
    Poop, poor, Aether...

  10. #50490
    Maybe this will force Square to update the game's servers.

  11. #50491
    So I'm still pretty new to the game, level 51, finally got through the ARR patch content, and a few hours into Heavensward, I swapped to a Dark Knight because I heard the story is really good (I was playing a Paladin), but a friend of mine told me there's an incredible amount of off cooldown abilities and it becomes super complex later on, and the internet isn't the best resource to find such a contextual based question. I'm a bit slow in dungeons due to being new still and I was wondering if it would be easier to stick to my Paladin and return when I get more experience?

    Thank you.

    Edit: I just saw there's a newbie thread, sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drindorai View Post
    So I'm still pretty new to the game, level 51, finally got through the ARR patch content, and a few hours into Heavensward, I swapped to a Dark Knight because I heard the story is really good (I was playing a Paladin), but a friend of mine told me there's an incredible amount of off cooldown abilities and it becomes super complex later on, and the internet isn't the best resource to find such a contextual based question. I'm a bit slow in dungeons due to being new still and I was wondering if it would be easier to stick to my Paladin and return when I get more experience?

    Thank you.
    Later on means very late. So it's not like it will be super complex at 55 suddenly. The game will give you new abilities and give you time to practice them. But honestly the whole point and the largest appeal of the armory system is that you can try every job and stick to the one you are comfortable with. Sure the DK story is amazing, but if you are nervous playing it, you shouldn't feel forced. Games are meant to be enjoyed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrecktangle View Post
    welp, Asmongold is streaming FF14 officially, FF14 is at 209k viewers and 200k are his lol. Gonna be a wild ride. He seems pumped though. I'm not an asmon fanboy by any means, but I like to think his publicity will drive more people and exposure to the game (for better or worse, but I do think better).
    Predictably his followers clogged Cactuar, keep obscuring his screen and killing mobs he tags. I know it is his fault, but i can't help feeling a bit sorry for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drindorai View Post
    So I'm still pretty new to the game, level 51, finally got through the ARR patch content, and a few hours into Heavensward, I swapped to a Dark Knight because I heard the story is really good (I was playing a Paladin), but a friend of mine told me there's an incredible amount of off cooldown abilities and it becomes super complex later on, and the internet isn't the best resource to find such a contextual based question. I'm a bit slow in dungeons due to being new still and I was wondering if it would be easier to stick to my Paladin and return when I get more experience?

    Thank you.

    Edit: I just saw there's a newbie thread, sorry.
    DRK is not complex and is one of the easiest for tanking normal dungeons and main story in my opinion. play what sounds fun for you, but drk is certainly not some super complex job with an insane amount of ogcd's. id rate it as average or below average in complexity.

  14. #50494
    Quote Originally Posted by Wangming View Post
    Later on means very late. So it's not like it will be super complex at 55 suddenly. The game will give you new abilities and give you time to practice them. But honestly the whole point and the largest appeal of the armory system is that you can try every job and stick to the one you are comfortable with. Sure the DK story is amazing, but if you are nervous playing it, you shouldn't feel forced. Games are meant to be enjoyed..
    Ah okay. I should have been more clear that I have no problems with how Dark Knight plays now, I was just worried if it was going to be a ton of off cooldown abilities that I need to constantly be weaving since as of this point I'm not good enough a player to do that. But I enjoy what I do have right now and the aesthetics of the class are really interesting to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Oblivion View Post
    DRK is not complex and is one of the easiest for tanking normal dungeons and main story in my opinion. play what sounds fun for you, but drk is certainly not some super complex job with an insane amount of ogcd's. id rate it as average or below average in complexity.
    Thanks It was just something she said off handedly but I couldn't look too much into it on the internet because I was afraid I'd stumble across something spoilery.

  15. #50495
    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    Do not judge healing power in any other content than savage or ultimate.

    I don't know who cut the DEVs balls off but it is ridiculous how easy everything except the afore mentioned has become.

    As a healer I cannot indefinitely "instantly" bring my tank back up. You should heal savage for a while, then you know that once you run out of CDs, it becomes a struggle to heal things fast enough. The challenge usually is not to heal the amount, it's to heal it within the given time.

    Yes, you are right, that these critical phases are spread out too much. Hence why I called SE timid in regards to damaging the players in any content.
    I'll be the first to admit I've not done much Savage content - As much as I like to claim I'm suave, charismatic and an all round awesome guy, the truth is I end up pugging most content because I'm playing solo.

    That said, for a tank buster I'd typically have a Shield on the tank ready to go, then have a Emergency Tactics + Adlo + Lustrate timed for less than a second after a tankbuster hits. Between the pre-shield and the pre-cast the tanks HP has generally been high enough fast enough to let me go back to spamming Broil.

    The bulk of raid damage is avoidable, so while there can be some required there when you're learning the fight, it quickly tapers off when people are more comfortable with that particular fights safety dance.

    Your experience may vary, but mine is I spend the bulk of my time casting DPS spells.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bovinity Divinity View Post
    And to some extent that can be fun. Not being a healbot and doing something on top of your normal role.
    I do think healer DPS is interesting when you're walking that fine line between doing the minimum amount of healing possible and pushing the envelope on DPS. It has to be a risk/reward situation for me to find it fun, at present FF14 is tipped too far in the reward direction without any real risks attached.

    More DPS mechanics would be nice too, but I'm prepared to accept that they need to be simpler than an actual DPS Job - As much as I would prefer otherwise.

  16. #50496
    Of course the idiots are ruinining balmoldgold experience, so much for having a "better community" than wow

  17. #50497
    Quote Originally Posted by Drindorai View Post
    I've been watching his stream out of curiosity and the people "ruining" his experience seem to be his own fans who all started on the server with him.

    But it's the FF14's community's fault...?????
    People that started with him don't have Gold Saucer or ShB raid mounts.

  18. #50498
    Quote Originally Posted by Dakhath View Post
    People that started with him don't have Gold Saucer or ShB raid mounts.
    EDIT: I saw a clip of some people doing something that I did not understand preventing him from progressing for a bit. I am not a fan of that.
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  19. #50499
    Quote Originally Posted by Drindorai View Post
    EDIT: I saw a clip of some people doing something that I did not understand preventing him from progressing for a bit. I am not a fan of that.
    It was early, within the first hour or so. While there is no doubt he has a lot of his fans causing problems, there were a lot of vet players there causing havoc too. I'm pretty indifferent to Asmon, but it's only for FF14s benefit to be a good ambassador.

  20. #50500
    I really don't wish Asmon and his followers on any game. Preferably he'd just go away but that'll sadly not happen.

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