1. #51601
    Quote Originally Posted by Onikaroshi View Post
    No, it's not steam, Humblebundle/greenman/etc all do the regular SE version and not the steam version.
    So how is the registration process different?

    The only issues I've ever seen aren't with buying, it's with registering the product after it's purchased.

  2. #51602
    Still waiting for the story to get brilliant. Stormblood has been the most boring, slow revolution plot I've seen. At least in WoW the Suramar rebellion ended after 20 hours.

  3. #51603
    Quote Originally Posted by Katchii View Post
    So how is the registration process different?

    The only issues I've ever seen aren't with buying, it's with registering the product after it's purchased.
    I've only ever seen issues with people buying. Humble just sends you a code and you pop it in like any other game (just on the mogstation instead of like steam)

  4. #51604
    Quote Originally Posted by Onikaroshi View Post
    I've only ever seen issues with people buying. Humble just sends you a code and you pop it in like any other game (just on the mogstation instead of like steam)
    In the threads I've read it's not the buying part that they have issues with, it's getting access to their purchased content and they just call it "buying issues" or whatever. Because it's all part of the buying process, they throw the two parts together.

    Regardless, it's a more convoluted mess than it needs to be. I've never had issues with it, except not understanding why I need to read a detailed set of instructions to do something that's intuitive literally everywhere else.

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    The Steam Autumn Sale dug into my pre-expansion playtime, so now I have only 2 evenings to do 3 patches worth of content. I hope I can finish in time, because i definitely do not want to be trying to find a group for ShB content wile everyone else is doing Endwalker content.

  6. #51606
    Quote Originally Posted by florclorbromiod View Post
    Still waiting for the story to get brilliant. Stormblood has been the most boring, slow revolution plot I've seen. At least in WoW the Suramar rebellion ended after 20 hours.
    Aye, the Stormblood patch content is a lot better IMO. It gets pretty good towards the end mind.

  7. #51607
    I think the main problem with Stormblood's plot is it starts off as an Ala Mhigo expansion but really wants to be a Far East expansion. So much more work seems to go have gone into the far east.

    So instead of continuing to build (or rebuild) the resistance, they pretty much reboot the plot but in the east. Then though, because they want to tie the plot back into the start, it gives the far east a sort of half-hearted conclusion to go do a finish in Ala Mhigo. Oddly enough the finish is pretty decent.
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  8. #51608
    Quote Originally Posted by florclorbromiod View Post
    Still waiting for the story to get brilliant. Stormblood has been the most boring, slow revolution plot I've seen. At least in WoW the Suramar rebellion ended after 20 hours.
    The second-half (end-ish) of Stormblood was where it really started making me not skip the text bubbles anymore and start to actually care about the story and character. And then shadowbringers takes that and cranks it up to 11 and is awesome the whole way through imho.

    Big hopes for Endwalker this Friday!

  9. #51609
    Quote Originally Posted by Katchii View Post
    In the threads I've read it's not the buying part that they have issues with, it's getting access to their purchased content and they just call it "buying issues" or whatever. Because it's all part of the buying process, they throw the two parts together.

    Regardless, it's a more convoluted mess than it needs to be. I've never had issues with it, except not understanding why I need to read a detailed set of instructions to do something that's intuitive literally everywhere else.
    I guess I don't see how entering a key like you do everywhere else isn't intuitive?

  10. #51610
    Quote Originally Posted by matheney2k View Post
    The second-half (end-ish) of Stormblood was where it really started making me not skip the text bubbles anymore and start to actually care about the story and character. And then shadowbringers takes that and cranks it up to 11 and is awesome the whole way through imho.

    Big hopes for Endwalker this Friday!
    I really hope so, man. Heavensward was good but SB has been a slog.

  11. #51611
    Quote Originally Posted by Onikaroshi View Post
    I guess I don't see how entering a key like you do everywhere else isn't intuitive?
    I've never had any issues with it either.

    Also, the biggest issue I've seen discussed isn't with just buying from Square, it's FFXIV Expansion Early access codes, which go through some completely separate process from just buying the game. It's weird.

  12. #51612
    Quote Originally Posted by Katchii View Post
    I've never had any issues with it either.

    Also, the biggest issue I've seen discussed isn't with just buying from Square, it's FFXIV Expansion Early access codes, which go through some completely separate process from just buying the game. It's weird.
    It *is* weird indeed.
    As I obviously can't remember what happened last time (since it's been quite some time) I'm still not certain if I'll get another key to insert or if my pre-purchase code is my actual game code?
    Because I'm pretty sure it isn't - or at least wasn't in the past.
    And that by itself is already extremely weird, why make an distinction between pre-purchase and a normal purchase and not like... I don't know connect it together because I'm aparently not allowed to refund anyway as soon as I insert it.
    If I order the game now, and I insert a key, it's automatically a pre-order and I should get access to it.
    If I order the game at a later time, it's not and it doesn't matter if that key would in theory also grant access to the pre-order.
    Is it just for the items?

    Not to mention that I bought from the official site last time(Shadowbringers) and it sent me to like 2 or 3 different sites to get my key... pretty sure I got a key-code for a key-code during that process as well.
    But what do I expect from a country that still uses a disk to transfer data with. *shrug* And I thought fax is outdated.
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  13. #51613
    Quote Originally Posted by Katchii View Post
    I've never had any issues with it either.

    Also, the biggest issue I've seen discussed isn't with just buying from Square, it's FFXIV Expansion Early access codes, which go through some completely separate process from just buying the game. It's weird.
    It's probably just easier for them if people cancel their preorders, they don't need to remove anything from the account. I can see why they do it.

  14. #51614
    Quote Originally Posted by Onikaroshi View Post
    It's probably just easier for them if people cancel their preorders, they don't need to remove anything from the account. I can see why they do it.
    I understand too, somewhat, why it's separated but plenty of other companies do early access without that mess. What I don't understand is why it's so convoluted. It uses a completely different platform to purchase and access the code you need to then use to register it on your account to gain Early Access.

    It's weird.

  15. #51615
    Quote Originally Posted by Katchii View Post
    I understand too, somewhat, why it's separated but plenty of other companies do early access without that mess. What I don't understand is why it's so convoluted. It uses a completely different platform to purchase and access the code you need to then use to register it on your account to gain Early Access.

    It's weird.
    Especially not being able to buy the games itself at the mog station or at least directly from your account page is just weird today.
    #1) MMO-C should be glad that the British Empire is no more, because they'd want a piece of all the copium trade here.
    #2) Angry players come to the forums to complain about the game... but what loser only comes to the forums to complain about the forums and its users?
    #3)Felating Blizzard too eagerly may lead to oxygen deficiency and worst case asphyxiation. Long-term effects range from delusions up to cerebral necrosis. #4) The WoW playerbase doesn't deserve housing.

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    It's kinda funny how much more pleasant threads get if you ignore November 2021 or December 2021 registered accounts.

  18. #51618
    Quote Originally Posted by Katchii View Post
    I understand too, somewhat, why it's separated but plenty of other companies do early access without that mess. What I don't understand is why it's so convoluted. It uses a completely different platform to purchase and access the code you need to then use to register it on your account to gain Early Access.

    It's weird.
    How is this different from getting a code from GoG, Gamestop or wherever then entering it to your account on another platform (Steam, PSN, Mogstation, etc.)? Often times the store is a different platform from the registration location.

    It might not be the BEST system, but it's one that is easy for SquareEnix to prevent preorder issues/refunds by requiring an actual code at the time of launch instead of going back through the system and removing access which can (and has in the past for other games) cause issues.

  19. #51619
    Quote Originally Posted by LD143 View Post
    How is this different from getting a code from GoG, Gamestop or wherever then entering it to your account on another platform (Steam, PSN, Mogstation, etc.)? Often times the store is a different platform from the registration location.
    Typically when buying from those sites, doing that is very intuitive. You go, you buy, you get a code. Done.

    Then, you take that code and go to you SE account enter the code. Done.

    With FFXIV pre-orders and early access, you go to the site, click a link which takes you to another site, which is where you make the purchase. After you make the purchase, literally at another time not usually right after you make the purchase especially if it was done as soon as pre-orders became available, they send you an e-mail with a link to yet another site where you have to go and get the actual code.

    And remember, this is JUST the Early Access code, not the actual Expansion registration code.

    You then go and enter the Early Access code into your account, which again ONLY gives you Early Access.

    At some point between when you pre-ordered and launch they'll actually charge you for the purchase of the Expansion...because they don't do that when you put in the pre-order, for some reason.

    At some point during Early Access you'll get yet another link to the SE site which will then provide you the code for the Expansion Registration which you then have to take and enter into your account so you can continue having access to the Expansion after Early Access ends.

    All that said, if you just read all the instructions they give you, you'll be fine. But there are a LOT of instructions.

    It might not be the BEST system, but it's one that is easy for SquareEnix to prevent preorder issues/refunds by requiring an actual code at the time of launch instead of going back through the system and removing access which can (and has in the past for other games) cause issues.
    It's a system that is far more convoluted than it needs to be is my only point. I understand why they do it. I just wish they'd simplify it.

  20. #51620
    Quote Originally Posted by Katchii View Post
    With FFXIV pre-orders and early access, you go to the site, click a link which takes you to another site, which is where you make the purchase. After you make the purchase, literally at another time not usually right after you make the purchase especially if it was done as soon as pre-orders became available, they send you an e-mail with a link to yet another site where you have to go and get the actual code.
    But that's the same thing as I said. You go to the SquareEnix store and buy the game, get the code and put it into the account system (Mogstation). There's no other sites - it's two. The store and the account location - just like there's GoG/GameStop/Humble Bundle then there's Steam/PSN/Xbox. People going to the account system first instead of the store are, of course, doing it wrong. Just because both are SquareEnix, doesn't make them the same sites (or even compatible).

    And remember, this is JUST the Early Access code, not the actual Expansion registration code.

    You then go and enter the Early Access code into your account, which again ONLY gives you Early Access.

    At some point between when you pre-ordered and launch they'll actually charge you for the purchase of the Expansion...because they don't do that when you put in the pre-order, for some reason.

    At some point during Early Access you'll get yet another link to the SE site which will then provide you the code for the Expansion Registration which you then have to take and enter into your account so you can continue having access to the Expansion after Early Access ends.
    Right but the double-code system prevents issues from occurring that they have to deal with. Preordered then canceled? Now they have to go remove things from the account - which they don't like doing. They don't like doing it so much they put the system in place to avoid ever doing so to begin with. This way, you get the preorder code then the actual game code. If you paid for the game, you get both and enter them both in to VERIFY your purchase. If you cancel/refund the preorder, you won't have access to the actual game code and therefore, won't be able to play it. This system prevents potential loss of items and account status while keeping support tickets down. As you said in your last line, it all makes sense but if people aren't going to read their Emails (which is a thing if you look at the subreddit), then that's on them. It's not a lot of instructions, it's two. Take this code, enter it on the account page to get your preorder stuff. When the game launches, take that code and enter it to verify you didn't cancel/refund the preorder and have access to the expansion. That's it. Honestly, people make this out to be harder than it is. Buy a code, enter in the account system. When given second code, enter it in the account system. It's not rocket science.

    Now, is it easier to make the store and account system compatible? Good hells yes .. that'd be great, but it's not. It's Japan - they're UX threshold for anything is so low to the ground, it's under a cemetery. Either way, people just need to read and not assume that one way a company does things is the same as every other company's ways.

    On that note - hey ... almost 12 more hours left. :0)

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