Rockstar and Bethesda

[Mukki]

Need to join forces and create an MMO (no, I'm not talking not ESO or GTA6, that's like saying Goku or Vegeta would be as strong as Vegetto alone). I think I would soil myself at their infinite game-creating genius.

[Hellravager]

Yea they'd make a good team just leave EA and people like that out of it

[kail]

They definitely know how to make a video game world look alive, and that's with just the NPCs.

[Poppincaps]

The two companies that defined the Open-World "genre".... if they collaborated the world would end due to everyone putting ungodly amount of time into that game.

[RoKPaNda]

While at least one of those companies still makes amazing games, they'd probably still end up making some of the same fatal errors that other major talented companies have made while entering the MMO market.

[SirRobin]

I used to hear similar claims about BioWare. Never underestimate to ability of folks to screw up a sure thing.

[Edge-]

I used to hear similar claims about BioWare. Never underestimate to ability of folks to screw up a sure thing.

Indeed. I'm quite curious to see how ESO turns out, and to see how Rockstar handles the multiplayer fake-MMO that is GTA Online.

[Mukki]

I used to hear similar claims about BioWare. Never underestimate to ability of folks to screw up a sure thing.

That's an extremely valid point. That is part of the gamble when investing in a game that could be potentially earth-shockingly awesome or disappointing.

[endersblade]

It would fail, terribly. Take a look at Bethesda's record - not a single game has been released that didn't need the community to fix it. So they'd release a half-assed MMO, but without the ability for the community to do their job like they've forced us to do for every other one of their games for the past two damned decades.

[Mukki]

Indeed. I'm quite curious to see how ESO turns out, and to see how Rockstar handles the multiplayer fake-MMO that is GTA Online.

Remember, you have to multiply the quality for a collaboration, not add them together. I'm applying Dragon Ball fusion rules.

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It would fail, terribly. Take a look at Bethesda's record - not a single game has been released that didn't need the community to fix it. So they'd release a half-assed MMO, but without the ability for the community to do their job like they've forced us to do for every other one of their games for the past two damned decades.

That's why you'd also combine Rockstar with them to augment their weaknesses.

[Deleted]

Sry, but RockStar Games are pretty overrated. They just release mediocre games with a 100M PR-budget.

[Linkedblade]

Sry, but RockStar Games are pretty overrated. They just release mediocre games with a 100M PR-budget.

Say that to the reception of GTAV and a $245 million budget.

[Teebone]

Sry, but RockStar Games are pretty overrated. They just release mediocre games with a 100M PR-budget.

I'll be sure to tell Trevor what you think, sir!

[Deleted]

Yeah they could probably make the most beautiful and living world in history. Everything other then that I would have a rather cynical look at

[Mormolyce]

Sry, but RockStar Games are pretty overrated. They just release mediocre games with a 100M PR-budget.

I know there's no accounting for taste, but if that's your idea of mediocre I'd like to see what you consider good.

Played Max Payne 3 just recently, not without its issues but shit that game was fun, awesome-looking and so atmospheric. Plus their excellent track record with the GTAs (I haven't been super fond of the series' direction since Vice City - IMO still the best - but they're still awesome games).

[Coombs]

I used to hear similar claims about BioWare. Never underestimate to ability of folks to screw up a sure thing.

Bioware has always been mediocre/subpar. Even back in the day their story games were extremely linear with an illusion of choice. Rockstar and Bethesda have shown how well they can make a game time and time again. No meaningless choices that amount to nothing, just great fucking story telling. The only books I ever remember having a "choose your own adventure" was Goosebumps; it's a piss-poor form of storytelling that they over hype.

[ohshift]

Elder Scrolls online looks like the blandest and most generic MMO ever created.

Infracted: Please post constructively and refrain from posting comments that might derail the thread.

[Mukki]

Elder Scrolls online looks like the blandest and most generic MMO ever created.

Good thing this thread isn't about ESO!

[May90]

Never liked games by these companies, neither GTA series, nor ES/Fallout series. These games have always lacked story, memorable characters, etc. Someone above said that "Bioware is mediocre". Well, I can name at least 100 characters from Bioware games that I like and remember well, and not just main characters, companions and antagonists, but also some common questgivers. Not a single character from GTA/ES/Fallout do I remember. Hell, even characters in Diablo were better made...

Yes, these games offer somewhat open world. But this world is not fun to explore when it is lifeless, without story and characters. I prefer Kotor's illusion of choice which, while is essentially linear, offers jaw-dropping story and incredible quests, than Fallout with its open world, but generic boring characters: "This gekko killed my father! Kill him and you will be generously rewarded!".

As for GTA... I think these are pop-corn games. All the gameplay you have is riding in a car around a city crushing everything, until you get caught by police or get away. I be damned if it is fun by any means.
Max Paine 1 was fun to play though in its time.

[Deleted]

An Fallout MMO would make my life complete.