MoP Warlock talent calculator

[infernity]

It does indeed look like conflag is no longer tied to immolate, due to the fact that you get conflag at 10, then immo at 12. Really, destro looks like it can actually be destructive again!!

[Deleted]

Did anyone notice... No Chaos Bolt?

I personally approve, because I didn't like it anyways. It didn't provide anything to the tree but a pretty spell effect.

What I WANT them to do, since they're taking it away from us, is make it a minor glyph, that morphs Soul Fire into Chaos Bolt, only affecting the button's look and the spell effect.

That would be some hot palootie.

on top of that it was green.

[Mayhem]

wait a minute

so with hog 3 times in a row we could build up 75 demonic fury and boom /cast wild imps

an army of little fu**ers \o/

it really seems meta will be permanent, awesome, warlock tanking again \o/!!!

[Jessicka]

No sign of 'Demonic Slash' they talked about on the Q&A, and with Shadowflame having a knockback in Meta I guess the 'melee Meta' is gone outside of AoE, which is good. On the other hand far, far too many of the Demo abilities are 'Passive', and literally have no interaction - and where the hell is Molten Core? D:

Also, Malefic Grasp looks more like a replacement for Haunt than it does Shadow Bolt with it's effect lasting 9s. Interesting that Nightfall procs for MG rather than SB if that's the case.

[JoeMackenroe]

where the hell is Molten Core? D:

As it stands, incinerate is destro only.

[ThatInternet]

... I hate to cause issues, but does anyone else notice Metamorphosis does not have a duration in the spell description? >_>

EDIT: Looking at the other Demonology skills like Demonic Leap SUGGESTS that Metamorphosis is going to be a permanent form.

They have already stated that the duration of metamorphosis will be measured by the amount of 'demonic fury' you have built up and not have a CD.

[Nerraw]

This has got to be the best thing I have woken up to in a LONG time! I can't stop drooling right now. Yes, I know some of it will probably change. But damn I'm excited for MoP right now!

... I hate to cause issues, but does anyone else notice Metamorphosis does not have a duration in the spell description? >_>

EDIT: Looking at the other Demonology skills like Demonic Leap SUGGESTS that Metamorphosis is going to be a permanent form.

I believe they said at Blizzcon, or some panel or something afterwards, that the duration depends on how many charges you have of Demonic Fury.

[Mayhem]

They have already stated that the duration of metamorphosis will be measured by the amount of 'demonic fury' you have built up and not have a CD.

wonder how this duration thing works if you are still casting sb´s while morphed...

[6kle]

wait a minute

so with hog 3 times in a row we could build up 75 demonic fury and boom /cast wild imps

an army of little fu**ers \o/

it really seems meta will be permanent, awesome, warlock tanking again \o/!!!

HoG only generates fury if the target is not afflicted with curse of Gul'dan.

It doesn't say meta is permanent, on the contrary, they have said its uptime will be determined by the amount of fury. We won't be tanking any bosses.

[Nerraw]

No sign of 'Demonic Slash' they talked about on the Q&A, and with Shadowflame having a knockback in Meta I guess the 'melee Meta' is gone outside of AoE, which is good. On the other hand far, far too many of the Demo abilities are 'Passive', and literally have no interaction - and where the hell is Molten Core? D:

Your Shadow Bolt changes into Demonic Slash when in Meta, so it wouldn't show up as a seperate spell. It just appears when you go Demon Form.

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wonder how this duration thing works if you are still casting sb´s while morphed...

You can't since it changes into Demonic Slash when you go Meta.

[Jessicka]

Your Shadow Bolt changes into Demonic Slash when in Meta, so it wouldn't show up as a seperate spell. It just appears when you go Demon Form.

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You can't since it changes into Demonic Slash when you go Meta.

Hellfire turns into Immolation Aura when in Meta - that is listed.

[ThatInternet]

It really looks to me that demon warlocks gonna turn into tanks. I mean, the change to metamorphosis just screams; I AMMA TANK THIS SHIAT!

Which in my opinion would then be the coolest tank choice, just because metamorphosis looks bad ass. And the demon specc seem to have many demons out at once, cool!
And some of the talents seem to scream; tank!

check the current tooltip on meta.

[6kle]

Hopefully the shadowflame knockback is something closer to thunderstorm than whiplash.

[Nerraw]

Hellfire turns into Immolation Aura when in Meta - that is listed.

Must be an oversight on their part then. They specifically said that Shadow Bolt changes into Demonic Slash.

Unless they changed their minds completely. Which wouldn't be the first time.

[Jessicka]

Looking through my spell lists now, it's looking like my rotation is going to be BoD, Corruption, Shadow Bolt, HoG every 15s (although questionable damage) then Soul Fire during the execute. Fuck that bullshit for dumbing down a spec.

[Mayhem]

all right, need more information then... without propper tooltips this is all speculation

will wild imps generate demonic fury even while meta is up? i don´t get that, then why the tanking part on meta, taking less dmg would be good enough if we aoe-aggro everything as usual

[6kle]

all right, need more information then... without propper tooltips this is all speculation

will wild imps generate demonic fury even while meta is up? i don´t get that, then why the tanking part on meta, taking less dmg would be good enough if we aoe-aggro everything as usual

Meta has always decreased the amount of physical damage we take. I don't understand why people act as if it is only now getting "tanking properties". It was supposed to be useful for tanking a bit of trash on a spot occasionally but nothing serious like boss tanking.

[SvetlanaSvetlana]

Looking through my spell lists now, it's looking like my rotation is going to be BoD, Corruption, Shadow Bolt, HoG every 15s (although questionable damage) then Soul Fire during the execute. Fuck that bullshit for dumbing down a spec.

More buttons=/=complex spec.

We don't know what the optimal process for meta uptime will be. I see this as 'cleaning' up the spec, more than dumbing it down. All in all, demo isn't hard to play atm, it just has a lot of buttons. I doubt that it will be dumber, it might even be more complex.

So basically, you're trading a couple of your keybinds, for a cleaner rotation, and a solid compliance to the spec theme.

[Porimlys]

... I hate to cause issues, but does anyone else notice Metamorphosis does not have a duration in the spell description? >_>

EDIT: Looking at the other Demonology skills like Demonic Leap SUGGESTS that Metamorphosis is going to be a permanent form.

They (blizzard) said that demo warlocks would be getting a new mechanic via a demonic fury bar, or something like that. The more you cast spells, the more it fills up, when it's full you go into Metamorphosis. I believe the bar just slowly depletes and when it's empty you leave metamorphosis again.

[ThatInternet]

Looking through my spell lists now, it's looking like my rotation is going to be BoD, Corruption, Shadow Bolt, HoG every 15s (although questionable damage) then Soul Fire during the execute. Fuck that bullshit for dumbing down a spec.

+imps + talent spells + demon form rotation changes + soulburns + portals + guardian management

IDK about you but i don't think it's going to be dumbed down at all.

I am more excited for destro tbh, and i haven't been excited for anything in the destro tree since ruin.