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  1. #1161
    T13.384 4 set for tanks is really quite good ......

    and again the fanboys crying over a guild they`ll never join getting banned for exploiting , no matter how they tried to justify there cheating.


  2. #1162

    Overrated was a Horde World of Warcraft guild, based on the US Black Dragonflight Realm. On November 2 2006, the majority of the guild members were indefinitely banned from the game for use of (or directly benefiting from) a third-party "wall-hack", used to bypass content within the game. Before being banned, Overrated was a top Horde guild in the US, having completed all the pre-expansion WOW instance content before any other guilds in their faction and geographic locale, though the legitimacy of any and all of their accomplishments is called into question by their actions.

    Overrated came about from the merger of two major guilds on the US Shadow Moon Realm, LNC (Late Night Crew) and Bloodsworn. LNC was formed from the most competitive players of two guilds, and Dreamworks Redux. Both guilds merged in order purge "inactive" players from their ranks to allow for faster progression through instances.

    Bloodsworn had effectively led the Shadow Moon Realm, and other U.S. Horde guilds over the various realms, in game progression throughout Molten Core and then onto Blackwing Lair, the next "end-game" instance. Bloodsworn disbanded shortly after completing the instance that followed in BlackWing Lair's trail, Ahn'Qiraj. This came as a shock to the gaming community on the Shadow Moon Realm with different reasons for the separation surfacing. It was later clarified that the split was brought about by leadership differences between their Guild Master, Domali and their raid leader Anujit versus the other officers and players. The majority of Bloodsworn players joined Overrated whilst the ousted leaders went onto the Korgath Realm to level new characters with the Alliance guild Death and Taxes.

    Once server transfers were allowed by Blizzard, Overrated moved to the Black Dragonflight Realm to avoid some of the hardware issues being experienced by the Shadow Moon Realm at that time. The shift caused them to lose several players for various reasons.

    Overrated rapidly progressed, eventually completing the most difficult WOW instance to date, . They were the first US Horde guild to do so.

    The exploit in question has been referred to as Patch 5. Patch 5 is a third-party data file that can be inserted into the Data folder in the World of Warcraft folder. It removes or alters certain "physical" geography in the (AQ40) instance, allowing game content to be bypassed, giving immediate access to a boss normally well-guarded. Generally, this is known as maphacking or wallhacking.


    Blizzard systematically banned every account with a RaidID matching either of the two instances spawned where the exploit had been used. When any boss in a spawned instance is killed, players in the instance at that time are locked to that RaidID until such time as the instance resets. All players who participated in either of the raids where the exploit was utilized (whether they had actually installed the Patch 5 exploit or not) had their accounts closed.

    Blizzard has made no official comment regarding the incident, but their TOS for World of Warcraft makes it quite clear that the use of (or even directly benefitting from) third party modifications to the WOW client can result in an indefinite, effectively permanent, closure of the account in question.

    Generally, Overrated has taken their punishment quite maturely. Some players have moved on from the game, others have already created new characters, others decided to wait for the arrival of Burning Crusade to begin playing again. Some are also attempting to work with Blizzard to have their accounts reinstated.

    "Let me explain. We are the only US Horde guild that clears Naxx, been like that for a few weeks. People found that the pre-C'thun trash was so painful, that they decided to install some stupid thing that deletes walls or something, and you can just run there after Skeram. I know, we had it coming, blah blah whatever, we know we deserve it...I'm sure they'll try and get it rescinded because it's kind of a steep punishment with no recourse or whatever." - Pantaloons, Overrated member,

    The response of the WOW community has been varied, ranging from the denunciation of all cheaters, to those who feel the punishment was too harsh, to others who understand why the exploit was used, claiming that the content bypassed was boring, unnecessary and should be removed. There were also plenty of personal attacks and gloating from other guilds and individuals. This also lead to a small meme regarding skipping content as "Overrated".

    PLEASE STOP FREAKING OUT! Blizzard has done worse to cheaters... Blizzard are in the Right. JUST ask "Overrated". I remember hearing this news when we were killing AQ and NO one was like WHAT A TRAVESTY!! they did essentially the same thing. Got banned and they accepted it and moved on. do the same. Mommy and Daddy cannot fix this one kids.

  3. #1163
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isilbêth View Post
    Well, what is done is done.

    But I think that in the future not one of the suspended members of the world best guilds will ever report any more a bug in PTR to Blizzard or will participate to any public demonstration of PVE fights organized by Blizzard.
    Boo hoo. Who cares?

    What you're saying isn't even true though. They will fall right back in line and be good little unpaid employees, just like blizzard wants them to be.

  4. #1164
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    Quote Originally Posted by phillipisawarlock View Post
    The reason it was never fixed in the PTR was because no one reported it. They thought that if no one knew that they could get away with it.
    Really? You think that Blizz doesn't monitor PTR raid exploits? They could have fixed it, but it might have pulled another week before patch.

    And would you want them to fix the problem or give patch...don't lie, you would take the patch.

  5. #1165
    Quote Originally Posted by oppie View Post
    Where was your cry out of blizzard being at fault when Ensidia had there LK kill taken away because of a bug exploit, Oh now that it happens to the top then its all blizzards fault now right. The nerve of some ppl, its only justified when it happens to everyone else but you.
    I thought that it was unfair either since it was blizz bug that allowed that. So they didn't do anything illegal like coding the game files or using third party programs.
    So if they can use in game mechanics that mean good for them.
    I personality used many times bugs of the game to beat mobs in both single and multi player games.

    I do not see anything bad about that behavior.

    During the Ensidia ban, I post a topic on the forums that it is unfair to banned so I got banned from the forums for 5 days.

    So i said fu** them.

    Now I see a similar thing, so I protest.

    If they haven't code the game in any way or use bots or anything like that, they have the right to keep their stuff.

    If I were in their shoes I would move to other game or do something else since something like that prevents initiative.


  6. #1166
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    Too much arguing and EU vs USA stuff now and not enough constructive posting, I don't think much new can be said - closing this.

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