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  1. #41
    Those 4 paragraphs from Paragon can be summed up with four words, "Sorry we got caught"

  2. #42
    I love the fresh smell of karma in the morning.

  3. #43
    Good. Ban the sorry ass cheaters.

  4. #44
    the ban hammer strikes again! and to those who said...oh blizz wont do nothing..HA enjoy your time off top guilds...u should know cheating never pays off. specially when you know they are watching your every move...

  5. #45
    can anybody explain to me the gain to replace 397 ilvl with 384 beside getting new tier ?
    There's your answer. New 2pc/4pc bonuses, itemisation, and socket bonuses can add up to quite the upgrade. Item level does not mean everything, it's just a measure of how many stats the piece is allocated not what the actual stats are.

  6. #46
    If there was any doubt that the fuss over world firsts was even worth it, let it be made clear. This isn't the first time a major 'world first' guild got busted for an exploit. There is no sense of sportsmanship from guilds like Paragon, and that pretty much invalidates any contest for a "world first." It really shouldn't be news anymore, because it's become less about skill and more about PTRs, mods, and exploits. The sense of competition here is void.

  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by dharock View Post
    can anybody explain to me the gain to replace 397 ilvl with 384 beside getting new tier ?
    It was about trinkets and tier only. Trinkets have never worked the better ilvl is better so there were definitely some trinket upgrades or situational trinkets to be had. As for tier, some of the 4pc tank bonuses would likely come in handy for progression and having full t13 even at ilvl 384 would allow them to seamlessly switch from t12 to t13 without that period of time running 2x 2 set bonuses. They likely wouldn't use 4 set 384 over 4 set 391, but when they get a couple of heroic t13 pieces, switching the last two 391's to 384's and getting your 4 pc will likely be a dps increase.

  8. #48
    Good that they manned up.

  9. #49
    You know, Paragon is the only guild out there that I've seen giving and apology and I find that very mature of them. Yeah, of course they would have rather gotten away with it but there is so much hate on them when they weren't even close to the first guild to do it. At least I see one top end guild able to stand up and say they were wrong. I've seen so many "It's Blizz's fault for allowing this" posts it's nice to see at least some of the players taking responsibility for their actions.

  10. #50
    So basically we are getting; "Hey guys, we got caught cheating, now are trying to cover our own asses so people don't think we are a bunch of scumbags". They deserve the ban, should be longer tbh.

  11. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Prxy View Post
    All I got from this was:

    Dear Community,

    Sorry we got caught.

    - Paragon
    Yup. Shame on them. They are probably the 1st guild Blizz looks on for advice when a patch hits.

    8 days aint enough.


  12. #52
    Imagine that, the number one raiding guild caught cheating. We have heard this story far too many times. I guess we shouldn't expect much more from them.

  13. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Kildex View Post
    no1 cares about paragon's sorry ass. They have to stop sucking blizzards ass and see the consequents of their action.It's the most cheaty sneaky guild. They are ruining the worlds first competition with their alt raids, class stacking ect.Imo they should ban paragon permentely!
    So it's Paragon ruining the competition with alt raids and class stacking, when every single top guild is doing the same thing because that's pretty much the only way to keep up (eg Blood Legion's 5 weekly Firelands clears for maximising legendaries and Four Horsemen requiring half a dozen warrior tanks)

  14. #54
    Hey can you post my guild's apology on the front page because we are just as important as Paragon. Thanks! I'm sorry we cheated the game intentionally.

  15. #55
    High Overlord ceelion's Avatar
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    To make a bad analogy, Paragon is a pro sport team and their jjob is to win, use wMe equipment and players that are the best and make it happen. Than when you cheat (cork the bat, illegal curve on a stick, etc) you face the consequenses and apologize to save face.

    Sent from my phone so sorry for typos/bad grammar

  16. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus4004 View Post
    Enjoy the week off fellas
    Pretty sure they will just create new accounts and transfer there mains over to it.

  17. #57
    Perma-Ban them. If anyone else were to be caught exploiting, they would be without an account. There's no reason certain individuals should receive special treatment over others. We're all equal, right?

  18. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by ohmygosh View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TheJester210 View Post
    They're only sorry they got caught..

    This sums up Paragon's apology perfectly.

  19. #59
    Bloodsail Admiral Galm's Avatar
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    You can't seriously be buying that crap?

    In my opinion their apology isn't worth posting on the front page.

  20. #60
    High Overlord burghands's Avatar
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    Why is it worth noting that Paragon posted an apology? Who cares?

    I stepped on my dogs paw and felt guilty for it. Put that on the front page.

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