Yes, it should go to top performers who don't have the item
No, your dumb and should not need of you have it.
Maybe, not sure.
As a note, social etiquette in an MMO, whilst present, is not only ever evolving, but never universally agreed upon. There is no standard, universal agreed upon stance for social etiquette. Even if one was agreed upon, no one is bound to obey said social construct.
I eat hour of twilight so I can eye for an eye procs, does this make me an asshole?
They should make it so once you own an item you lose your +100 bonus so it's fair -.-'
I've noticed a lot of people who roll on the lfr stuff who already have the 397 version of the same item are rolling for guildies. I do it. Most of the end game guilds on the server i play on do it as well.
In the end its 20 some odd strangers who don't care what you or your guild needs, why should we care about their needs/wants. I earned the right to hit need when i helped kill the boss, what i do with my shiney is none of your concern. If i want to pass it off to someone i know who's had terrible luck on the reg version on it and it will help a guild run its my choice. If i want to be the only person hitting need against the guy who afk's every fight just to win said item and shard it so he can't have it is also my choice. Deal with it
LFR is a tool that serves 2 functions. Letting people without the time/skill see endgame content, and gearing up alts. We're using the system as blizz gave it to us with the rules they gave us. If you don't like it start opening tickets demanding they either scrap it, or break it by making the loot rules overly restrictive or complex.
Keep playing horde. It's not for you to say who deserves what.
A flood of angry threads on the official forums about people demanding changes to the LFR loot system because people are able to need items they don't need or can't use proves you wrong. Oh, and Blizzard class restricting items to mitigate some of that idiotic needing was greeted warmly by the community because it cut down on idiots needing on stuff they shouldn't even be equipping.
Next change, fixing people winning double items. Again in response to people angry at the need/greed system being abused(though this is not really the fault the player. Only a dick move if they leave without giving someone else one of the items).
Last edited by SamR; 2012-01-17 at 11:10 PM.
You are in no position to decide who has "earned" what; its not nor will it ever be your call to make. You know you are being an asshat, and are just looking for like-minded people to tell you its okay probably because you feel some guilt knowing what you are doing is a douchebag thing to do.
I was in a LFR raid I think 2 weeks ago where a paladin tank was afk for the trash leading up to the first boss. He came back to one of my guildmates making a sarcastic comment in raid chat about how nice it would be if someone was tanking the trash mobs (the other tank had HORRIBLE threat issues, and a couple DPS had died). He started talking smack about my guildmate and during the loot roll after killing the first boss he realized we had 8 or 9 of us in that LFR raid so he decided to trash talk all of us.
To help himself to avoid getting kicked, he wouldn't roll on loot so he'd get 5 minutes to get people in position to start clearing trash where he'd chain pull so he still couldn't be votekicked. Healers were yelling in raid chat that they had no mana and the entire raid turned against this tank. Sure, we talked as much trash as the tank but it was hilarious watching him do anything he could to stay in combat long enough to avoid getting votekicked. Finally while we were doing trash for Hagara people had stayed behind because they think loot won't show up in their bags if they move ahead so we had some deaths in that trash. The tank finally stopped for the raid to rez 5-6 people who had died and the tank was votekicked the second we were able to do so.
No it doesn't. Even if we ignore the fact that they are not exactly the same issue, a vocal group of people pushing their own morals is not etiquette. The fact that the outrage was so widespread in fact suggests that this was happening a lot, ie. the norm.
Blizzards changes have nothing at all to do with etiquette, they are enforced limitations on the system which removed some loot abilities which would simply never make sense.
If he was eligible for tank loot then it's either him or the other tank that could of rolled anyway, derp? Also, if someone is doing less healing than the Shadow Priest, that's usually a good indicator of whether or not they pulled their weight.
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Because combat logs show who started the encounter, right? ...
So some people feel that the Warlock using bane of Agony and Fel flame as filler (doing 10k dps) should recieve loot over the warlock properly following his rotation doing 30k dps? There should be a skill cap to join LFR, and people saying how are people ever going to replace their pvp gear? New dungeons say hello Firelands says hello.