[Megathread] Mass Effect 3

[Oerba Yun Fang]

"I enjoy the sight of humans on their knees. That was a joke." EDI plushie. Right meow.

[Deleted]

"This one has forgotten whether its heatsink is over capacity. It wonders whether the criminal scum considers itself fortunate?"

[Oerba Yun Fang]

SO MANY POSSIBILITIES! They need to cash in on these things. I would buy the shit out of them. lol

[rhorle]

Eat it Rhorle! Ah!

Nothing I said is changed or invalidated. Going off of just that scene it is possible that Shepard still dies, or that it was Shepards death scene. I knew about the info you quoted last week since Bioware mentioned it on their Mass Effect Twitter. The discussion was about that scene and that there could be multiple outcomes that involved Shepards death just from that scene. Of course further info that isn't in the scene would change the meaning. I never thought that Shepard was dead as we also have the Datapad App which implies that the Love Interest is reunited with Shepard (though it really isn't known how cannon the Datapad App is).

The Beauty and Artistic part of the endings was (and is even though the Extended Cut changed how much) that you could really create the Ending you wanted for your Shepard within the confines of the 3 choices. Much like the rest of the game. You are given some things as Facts but given great leeway to create your own story.

If you wanted blue babies on a beach you could have had that ending pre-EC but just imagining it as your ending. Control could have had Shepard downloading into a Synthetic body like EDI's and have lots of babies with his Love Interest (Cloned from LI unless Shepards DNA is on file some where). Just as you could have had Shepard dead even with the Destroy ending.

Interpretation is the doorway to imagination.

[Oerba Yun Fang]

This whole "Shepard lives/dies" argument is rather silly. I mean, Shepard is bound to die sooner or later!

[Adam Jensen]

OOOH! OOOH!

Squeezy Major Kirrahe!

"WE WILL HOLD THE LINE"

[Gothicshark]

Going to copy CHALET's list here since it is an easy to read lay out.

Mariel Shepard

Saved Wrex
Saved Kirahee
Killed Kaidan
Saved Rachni Queen
Romanced Liara.
Got Saren to off himself.
Saved the Council.

Saved Genophage Data
No romance
Killed Morinth.
All crew survived.
All squaddies survived.
Distroyed the Collector Base.
Saved David (Overlord)

Mordin dies heroically, Genophage Cured
Geth and Quarians made peace.
Ashly Joins crew.
Miranda Joins the crucible project.
Wrex Marries "Eve" and has little bouncing land sharks.
Liara Romance
Chose Synthesis.
Best Ending (7700+ EMS, 300 points from Multi-player ).

Most of the major choices were paragon, but I had plenty of renegade points.

[Oerba Yun Fang]

OOOH! OOOH!

Squeezy Major Kirrahe!

"WE WILL HOLD THE LINE"

That sounds diiiiirty.

[Gothicshark]

I never really cared for him so i didnt care when he died in the Suicide mission (he dies if he goes in vent, and here i thought it was the best choice)
But the Geth VI was simply so horrendous so i replayed from the collector base.

So you never did his loyalty.

[rhorle]

So you never did his loyalty.

I'm sure many didn't do his loyalty mission unless they did more then one play through. I had to start a pre-me3 play through over again (lost about 2/3rd) of the progress because I forgot that if you delay going to the collector base kelly and the crew dies. So I imagine a lot missed his loyalty mission unless they timed everything right to allow for that "one extra" mission.

The geth really should have had a more central role in the ending of ME3 and should have played a larger role in the ending. Hell the geth were even building their own "reaper" (minus the whole galactic killing part) when the Quarians attacked. Its why they joined the "old machines"/Reapers. That dreadnought alone would have been a huge asset. I would have sided with the geth to destroy the Quarians in a heartbeat

And it would have been nice to show up at the catalyst with a organics and synthetics being all peaceful. And be like you suck cycle 92321 rules.

[Grizzly Willy]

The geth really should have had a more central role in the ending of ME3 and should have played a larger role in the ending. Hell the geth were even building their own "reaper" (minus the whole galactic killing part) when the Quarians attacked. Its why they joined the "old machines"/Reapers. That dreadnought alone would have been a huge asset. I would have sided with the geth to destroy the Quarians in a heartbeat

And it would have been nice to show up at the catalyst with a organics and synthetics being all peaceful. And be like you suck cycle 92321 rules.

I will say that, were it not for Tali or the ability to rep check your way to the peaceful solution, I would have had no problem letting the Geth obliterate the Quarians. Bunch of idiots is what they are.

Also, I do think it would be interesting if you could show the Starchild that he is wrong; that organics and synthetics can peacefully coexist, thus negating the need for the Reapers without having to use the Crucible.

[rhorle]

Also, I do think it would be interesting if you could show the Starchild that he is wrong; that organics and synthetics can peacefully coexist, thus negating the need for the Reapers without having to use the Crucible.

It likely wouldn't have convinced the Catalyst since I believe he talks about the original cycle having a "peace" or trying peace but it never lasted. Someone would eventually break it but it was never stated who. There isn't anything to say that the geth and Quarians wouldn't go to war again. Or that someone else wouldn't go to war with them, or that EDI wouldn't go crazy if some kid pushed joker and broke all his bones.

We see several times that the geth don't consider the loss of life from acts of violence/war the same as organics do. And I think its more that "fundamental" difference in viewpoints that the Catalyst is referring to rather then the ability for them to be as peaceful as any other nation/race/culture/group-in-power. It is that fundamental difference that will always lead to war eventually and a bad war.

I just wanted to do it because its flaunting it in front of the Catalyst. And then when I still have to make the choice I can shove a toaster into the blue beam and know that the Geth would have seen it as a logical choice.

[Oerba Yun Fang]

Guess what just arrived today.

[Beavis]

Going to copy CHALET's list here since it is an easy to read lay out.

Mariel Shepard

Saved Wrex
Saved Kirahee
Killed Kaidan
Saved Rachni Queen
Romanced Liara.
Got Saren to off himself.
Saved the Council.

Saved Genophage Data
No romance
Killed Morinth.
All crew survived.
All squaddies survived.
Distroyed the Collector Base.
Saved David (Overlord)

Mordin dies heroically, Genophage Cured
Geth and Quarians made peace.
Ashly Joins crew.
Miranda Joins the crucible project.
Wrex Marries "Eve" and has little bouncing land sharks.
Liara Romance
Chose Synthesis.
Best Ending (7700+ EMS, 300 points from Multi-player ).

Most of the major choices were paragon, but I had plenty of renegade points.

Horus Shepard:
Earth Born War Hero
Soldier

Saved Wrex
Saved Kirahee
Lost Kaidan
Saved Rachni Queen
Romanced Ashley
Killed Saren
Saved the Council

Saved Genophage Data
Romanced Miranda
Killed Morinth
Completed All Loyalty Missions
Saved Legion
All crew survived
All squaddies survived
Destroyed the Collector Base

Mordin dies
Genophage Cured
Geth and Quarians made peace.
Ashley Joins crew
All ME2 character War Assets but Kasumi
Rachni Queen Saved (Again!)
Wrex Marries "Eve" and has little bouncing land sharks
Ashley Romance
Killed TIM before he killed Anderson
Chose Destroy
Best Ending

[Deleted]

Well since everyone else is doing it, and being a senior bastard argument EVERYTHING, i shall allow you to bask in my glorious path.

Viking Shepard:
Spacer War Hero
Vanguard

Killed Wrex on Virmire
Saved Kirahee
Sacrifised Kaidan
Killed Rachni Queen
Romanced Liara
Made Saren see the light
Saved the Council

Deleted Genophage Data
Romanced Tali
Killed Morinth
Completed All Loyalty Missions
Kept Legion
Let loose Grunt
All crew survived
All squaddies survived
Destroyed the Collector Base

Mordin saved
Genophage sabotaged
Geth and Quarians made peace.
Ashley Joins crew
All ME2 character War Assets but Kasumi
Rachni Queen left to die
Wreav is a tool
Liara Romance
Made TIM see the errors of his ways
Chose Destroy
Shepard survived

Alternative playthrough:
John Shepard:
Earth Born Ruthless
Soldier

Killed Wrex
Let Kirahee die
Sacrifised Kaidan
Gave Rachni Queen an acid bath
Romanced Ashley
Killed Saren
Killed the Council

Destroyed Genophage Data
Romanced Jack
Killed Samantha
Completed nearly all loyalty missions
Kasumi was not recruited
Sold Legion
Grunt is still a vegetable
All crew died
Suicide mission KIA is as follows:
-Tali and Thane killed during approach
-Garrus died during infiltration
-Jacob kidnapped by swarm
-Mordin gunned down during diversion
Surviving team: Miranda, Jack and Zaeed
Kept the Collector Base

Padok Wiks dies
Genophage sabotaged
Geth are extinct (boosted their numbers during ME2 legion loyalty to bring down the quarians numbers)
Ashley shot
Fake Rachni Queen left to die
Wreav is still a tool
Ashley Romance
Killed TIM before he killed Anderson
Chose Destroy
Shepard lives

[Nerraw]

Guess what just arrived today.

*Tali cup*

That's AWESOME!

[Oerba Yun Fang]

That's AWESOME!

Yes. Yes, it is.

[Deleted]

I'm sure many didn't do his loyalty mission unless they did more then one play through. I had to start a pre-me3 play through over again (lost about 2/3rd) of the progress because I forgot that if you delay going to the collector base kelly and the crew dies. So I imagine a lot missed his loyalty mission unless they timed everything right to allow for that "one extra" mission.

You need to do one mission after the Reaper IFF in order for the Normandy to be attacked and the crew to be abducted, so you can choose to help Legion if you want to.. if you have done every single other mission and DLC at that point I think it's actually the only way for the story to progress.

[Nerraw]

You need to do one mission after the Reaper IFF in order for the Normandy to be attacked and the crew to be abducted, so you can choose to help Legion if you want to.. if you have done every single other mission and DLC at that point I think it's actually the only way for the story to progress.

This is correct.

However, there is a bug. If you have not done Tali's loyalty mission prior to the Reaper IFF, you can do both her and Legion's missions before triggering the attack on the Normandy.

[Oerba Yun Fang]

This is correct.

However, there is a bug. If you have not done Tali's loyalty mission prior to the Reaper IFF, you can do both her and Legion's missions before triggering the attack on the Normandy.

That's a bug? I thought that was intended, what with the unique dialogue you get for bringing Legion along.