Student-Teacher Love Affair?

[Warcrafter]

If they are happy and in love its ok

[Catforum]

Why the gender bias in the poll?

[Deleted]

ohhh man you just put the point right


She is 18 and therefore she can the fuck she wants, and he is a grown up man and if has fallen in love with an 18 year old girl, then well done! every man would say yes to some teenage love no matter what age you are. So the law is saying yes, the moral that everybody would do the same, says yes and since the mother is doing something illigal by going on a personal crusade, i say go old man and girl!

[Flaks]

Someone probably already said it but...

Dat last name...

I don't personally think there's anything wrong with a legal consentual student-teacher relationship. What's wrong with this situation though is the fact that he left his wife and children for this girl.

[Niteynite]

Has your best mate ever come to you crying:

*Sniffles* *Sniffles* "Ms Greyson touched my leg inappropriately. Just because she has double D's doesn't make it right!"

I didn't think so.

Sorry to break it to you but there are fundamental differences between guys and girls. Call it sexist if you like, but it's the reality.

I will agree and disagree with you here.

You are right about the difference between boys and girls when it comes to sex with teachers. A male teacher having sex with his female student causes all sorts of trauma and emotional distress. But when a female teacher has sex with her male student, then he becomes the hero on the block. The part where it becomes a point of distress is years down the road, when he tries to have an actual relationship with somebody. The fact that he had full adult hotness up for grabs at such a young age contradicts the reality many years later when he is trying to be close and intimate with someone who he must work with to keep that relationship going.

So you are right, it's not the same, but make no mistake, they are both traumatizing.

[Deleted]

The poll doesn't have enough middle ground options, it's case to case whether or not it's okay.

[Borzo]

Romantic love (the chemical one with deep roots in lust and human reproductive instinct) is actually a very short stage, usually followed by self-suggestive love (50 year married couples who stay together out of need rather than love, for example)

By your comment, I will understand you're of the female disposition, and therefore, because of different hormonal processes and instincts, really believe in "unconditional love" and "Wanting one person for life". Were you male, you'd see things different. Please notice, tho, that I am in no way making a sexist or misogynistic remark, and feel no need to call your hollywood-esque reply as "bullshit and very ignorant", but stating simple truths: Men all want a younger woman, at some point or another. Some go for it, some don't. But they all have the desire.

I don't think you're doing your argument any favors by using the words "all" and generalizing all men and all women. Just like men and women are different, men are different, and women are different too.

Just because the stereotype applies to you doesn't mean it automatically applies to everyone else as well.

[Niteynite]

If you ask most rapists "Did you rape that girl?" they will answer "no" and the polygraph will say that they are not lying*
It's like "Do you consider yourself an evil man?" 99% of people will answer "no" and they will not be lying.

*Got this from a study about rape and the different levels of it. Rapists almost never thought that they had raped the girl.

A little off topic, but the funny part is when people don't say "no".

Like former Congressman Anthony Weiner. When someone asks if you tweeted your penis, and your answer is anything other than "no", then you tweeted your penis. His answer of "I can't say with certitude. The picture could be doctored" left many Democrats groaning.

Or Penn State's Jerry Sandusky. If someone asks "Are you attracted to young boys?", the answer is "no". Not for Jerry though. His answer? "Young boys are attracted to me."

[Providence]

You can't speak for every man out there. You also can't say that every man feels that way. That itself is ignorant. I'll tell you a story, that is behind my comment.

My gran and grandad were 10 years apart from each other in age (my gran was older). They meet when my grandad was 22 years old and had 5 kids together. Later when my granddad was 62, my gran died from an illness. My grandad since then has not even been on a date or even looked for another woman. He loved my gran so much, he doesn't want anyone but her ( despite us telling him, that gran would want him to move on and be happy again). To this day he still isn't with anyone else and is happy and content in knowing that he will be with my gran again someday. Until then he remains single and devoted.

It's kind of a sad love story. But it just shows, that there is true love out there and men aren't all sex driven dogs, looking for a younger woman.

while his post is pretty sexist (lets face it, this entire thread is pretty sexist) it's not exactly inaccurate to say that every male has at one point fantasized about a younger woman (unless you're not into women at all). it's not saying that men JUST go for younger women and only younger women, and that men don't fantasize about older women. essentially its not wrong but it's extremely vague and heavily misinterpreted.

[Holy]

Eh, I've never really understood peoples outrage over this kind of thing. Human relationships are human relationships. I don't know the details about what they are up to, but if they actually love each other, damn the consequences I say. If he can handle living with the fact he abandoned his wife and kids more power to him. Sure, it's kind of terrible, but the heart wants what the heart wants.

People also always take legal age/age difference to seriously. Is it wrong for someone 18 to date someone who is 16? Anything between them would technically be illegal, but it's only a 2 year difference. Likewise if their feelings are genuine and not just some sexual/money thing I don't see why age has to be an issue. I feel people age to the ability to make their own decision much quicker then the law states as well. Of course there is a limit, you can't just say "Me and this 11 year old are in love!" but humans reach a level of maturity both mentally and sexually at around maybe 15 or so where neither they nor the other party should be penalized for their choices (this is consensual, of course. Assault in this case should still be treated as a greater then average crime.)

I still find it more uncommon that anything between greater age lines would be genuine. There are certain personality traits that seem to be shared across generations.

[-Zait-]

It's very creepy but people have to remember, guys have two brains.

One in their penis, and one in their skull. Usually the penis brain wins decisions.

[Grizzly Willy]

It's very creepy but people have to remember, guys have two brains.

One in their penis, and one in their skull. Usually the penis brain wins decisions.

I wasn't aware that it was that simple. Funny how I have yet to experience my dick winning the argument.

[inux94]

It's legal. Not really an issue. Sorry.. but.. Old dude goes for young girl..
C'mon..

Not a unusual thing, but ~20 years!?

Dear god.
(Whenever I say god I refer to TotalBiscuit)

[Bigbazz]

There's nothing unusual nor illegal that they are doing, loads of girls back when I was that age were with much older guys, some girl when I was in college was around 18-19 seeing some 40ish year old guy, maybe a little weird from my point of view (she was a really attractive girl too) but very common.


He's no longer a teacher so he's done nothing wrong. If I can pull 18 year old girls when I'm 40, I'l be a happy guy. Porn stars do them for a living.

[Eldar45]

Its creepy, but not illegal. It was definitely immoral for him to leave his wife and kids. Guy is definitely a sicko.

I think its wrong for someone that old to go after a girl so young. And, how in the hell is she attracted to him?

[Chamenos]

What, no one made a joke about the ABC news video saying that, "... and Hooker was her business class teacher." Guess my humour is a little sketchy at best.

[Yogurthewise]

This is directed at most of the "it's not ok if the older one is female!" people.



It is women who, in our culture, tend to have their reputation ruined from having sex ("slut" etc). It is this cultural based damage that is the main issue brought up with 'inappropriate' relationships.

Men do not suffer this stigma, even if it is a young (18-20) year old with a older (say, 40) woman in a position of authority.

Without the stigma saying "sex is bad" on a male, either in their heads or in the heads of those around them, it is much more difficult for them to be adversely effected by a sexual relationship that might have made a female feel used/ruin self esteem/ruin reputation.

And we don't really consider the older one in the position of authority to be harmed anyway regardless of gender.

So yes, it's more OK (barring damages from the relationship emotionally interfering with professional judgement etc) if the young one is a male.

Please separate sexism out from simple truth in your head, or you will hold yourself and the people around you back.

Ding Ding Ding, give this person a cookie. I could not have said it better myself, no really, I couldnt.

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I wasn't aware that it was that simple. Funny how I have yet to experience my dick winning the argument.

Masturbation says "Hi"

[Sunseeker]

Provided that nothing illegal happened(ie: sexual contact when she was <18) then I don't really care. 18-year-olds are legal adults, if they wanna sleep with their teacher, that's their right.

[Zantesuken]

There are certain things you don't do, and what this "Man" did is one of them. And by the way, what's going on here is nothing close to love. I'd speculate (NOT stating facts) that this relationship was more about fulfilling their fantasies than actual love. This guy should have had the balls to first of all, not entertain those thoughts when he noticed "Oh man, I'm attracted to this girl", let alone leave his children and wife for this. Regardless of the legality or the issue, and regardless if they "love" each other or not, he never should have allowed those feelings to come to this point. Now his family has to pay the price, and there is absolutely no excuse for that. He abandoned his responsibility to his wife and his family for his own sake. I'd hardly call him a man at all.

[Valort]

You can't speak for every man out there. You also can't say that every man feels that way. That itself is ignorant. I'll tell you a story, that is behind my comment.

My gran and grandad were 10 years apart from each other in age (my gran was older). They meet when my grandad was 22 years old and had 5 kids together. Later when my granddad was 62, my gran died from an illness. My grandad since then has not even been on a date or even looked for another woman. He loved my gran so much, he doesn't want anyone but her ( despite us telling him, that gran would want him to move on and be happy again). To this day he still isn't with anyone else and is happy and content in knowing that he will be with my gran again someday. Until then he remains single and devoted.

It's kind of a sad love story. But it just shows, that there is true love out there and men aren't all sex driven dogs, looking or wanting a younger woman. Some men are happy with their wives and have no desire to find someone younger.

If you re-read my post, I didn't say "ALL MAN GO AND TAKE A YOUNGER WOMAN!".
There is a simple issue of reading comprehension, the point I tried to put across, is not that all men will go and take more than one woman. The point is all men, at one point or another, desire another woman. Some take the risk and go for it, some don't. If you call that a generalization, well, I don't know how to help you there.

Your grandfather didn't. Does that mean he never looked at another woman and thought about having sex with her? I doubt it unless he was neutered (No disrespect intended towards your grandfather, just making a point)

As I said, thinking a man wont desire another woman is simply self-delusional wishful thinking. Yet it doesn't mean a man will actually take the chances. Every time you're walking down the street and your man looks at a woman's body, he goes through the simple mental image.

You can call it a generalization, but doing so is like stating "All humans have a brain" is a generalization too.