Originally Posted by
Lysah
Yes, I would consider a good example. Know why? Because Pizza is every bit as awful as the person he stomped, mathematically. Maybe at his MMR he is exploiting a certain weakness of the skill bracket, but throwing out his example because "lol not pro players" is extremely arrogant and not at all conducive to actual theorycrafting. The whole point of theorycrafting is taking everything into consideration, not just what a handful of 30 people do.
I mean, you spend a lot of time writing but you still don't address the fundamental issue at hand here. If we don't play pros, which we never will because we aren't part of pro teams and going to tournaments, and testing against pros is the only way to gain validity for a certain strategy, what is the point of us even discussing strategy? Nothing I say will ever mean anything to you because I haven't crushed R T Z doing it and I'll never get the chance to, so what? Even if I managed to crush him 1v1 mid as Meepo against his OD you'd probably just say he wasn't taking trash pub game seriously, there will always be an excuse for these people because you put them up on a pedestal and worship them.
At the end of the day, the meta trends are actually incredibly predictable to me and I've called popular heroes months in advance of them being mainstream. It's not that hard to see what heroes are strong, or what items, or what lanes, there is nothing the pros do/know that we aren't capable of. They aren't especially innovative or intelligent, they're just good players. And as I've stated repeatedly, they don't experiment much with new, they simply hammer in old strats until they've perfected them, it's safer to play that way. You don't see dual mids because they won a tournament a month ago with a trilane, so why don't they just keep going with the trilane? It would be stupid of them to try something new and risk their paycheck on it.
I hate to bring it up, but, let's not forget that literally everyone on this forum argued with me that Shadowblade was an awful item, a pub trash item, so easily countered, pros never have a problem with it and would never buy such a useless item because it's a joke item for joke players. Just kidding, a couple of months after literally 0 people agreed with me in this very thread about this item it started being built on every single carry in every single pro game until Icefrog had to severely nerf it because everyone found out how absurdly broken of an item it was. Guess I just got lucky.
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No one will copy Puppey because he used some weird strat against some awful team? You're kidding, right? Midas CM? Does anyone seriously think that isn't an awful strat? I stomped literally dozens of midas supports the day after people saw that on twitch and they just kept doing it because a pro did it so it must work. Even now that the secret is out and people finally started accepting it only worked because that game was a stomp regardless people STILL keep trying it and I see it every couple of days. People are sheep and they will do ANYTHING their god Dendi does.