1. #18861
    Quote Originally Posted by PizzaSHARK View Post
    Plenty of ways of doing it, but nearly all of them would require them to actually spend money on systems and eventually people to shepherd it. A quick way of doing it would be an extension of the existing report system, with human oversight before punishment occurs for any new options beyond the existing three. Punishments don't even have to result in low priority, just a temporary ban from ranked games. Ideally, all punishments are associated with IP addresses so that you can't easily skirt around them with smurf accounts (most people are gonna be too stupid to use a VPN.)

    A company that probably grosses several hundred million dollars a year from Dota 2 alone can certainly figure it out.
    Unlikely, there are millions of reports going on everyday, how many people would you have to put on this useless task?
    Changing your IP is a child's thing and a lot of people play from internet points would you ban them too?
    Permanent ban in a free game is useless, since you can make another account.

    Quote Originally Posted by PizzaSHARK View Post
    People are idiots for acting like forcing a TP is nothing. Grats, you just forced them out of position, now go eat that tower they can't defend. Or eat their jungle. Or do basically anything because now they're unable to bring someone to a fight.
    if you have to tp away you were likely already out of position vs a BS.

  2. #18862
    Quote Originally Posted by seraknis View Post
    Permanent ban in a free game is useless, since you can make another account.
    Don't be so sure. We're talking about ranked matches specifically. They take level 13, which is...like 130 hours of game time played? No way to speed it up unless they add boosters back (they won't). Ban someone from ranked, he can't just make a new account. Not only will all his cosmetics be on his old account (and Valve is slowly making them all untradeable), he will have to grind for literally weeks to be able to plague ranked again.

  3. #18863
    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    Don't be so sure. We're talking about ranked matches specifically. They take level 13, which is...like 130 hours of game time played? No way to speed it up unless they add boosters back (they won't). Ban someone from ranked, he can't just make a new account. Not only will all his cosmetics be on his old account (and Valve is slowly making them all untradeable), he will have to grind for literally weeks to be able to plague ranked again.
    Are we really debeating on what people who love to annoy other people would or would not suffer to mess with us?

  4. #18864
    Quote Originally Posted by PizzaSHARK View Post
    Ranked should be for serious play, unranked for casual play, and the difference should be enforced.
    I have no idea how you'd go about enforcing something like this. If you leave it in the hands of the players its going to get abused maliciously. Your Team Captain didn't pick all the FOTM Heroes? He's not playing seriously and should be banned! Someone didn't call missing? He's not playing seriously and should be banned! Your carry doesn't have 1200 GPM? Not playing seriously and, well... You get the idea.

    Designing an automatic system that tells you just how serious people are playing is pretty much impossible. What metrics are you going to use to measure someones "seriousness"? Their APM? Are you going to force anyone who wants to play Ranked to be hooked up to medical machines that measure their stress levels, heart rate and such? Do you need to record how hard they're bashing their mouse?

    Quote Originally Posted by seraknis View Post
    Permanent ban in a free game is useless, since you can make another account.
    Completely true, but at the very least it gets them out of the way for a while, which is a start at least. IP bans sound great in theory, but in practice its easy to get a new IP and you could end up with innocent players getting a previously banned IP, thats before you even get into problems with Cafes and such. Removing people from the system entirely is much tricker and short of taking legal action against them theres almost nothing Valve can do to prevent these kinds of people from playing Ranked.

  5. #18865
    Quote Originally Posted by seraknis View Post
    Are we really debeating on what people who love to annoy other people would or would not suffer to mess with us?
    If people have to play 300 games, just to get banned a few games later, do you really think they'll keep it up forever as a great, epic hobby?

    And, even if they did, do you not think their impact on the community would decrease drastically, given that they now spend literally 99% of their time playing unranked, trying to level up their new account?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    Wasting everyone's time, checks out
    Don't forget how much I hate potm's arrows.
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    I love how common "jaja" is for us. Peru doto best doto?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Cailan Ebonheart View Post
    I also do landscaping on weekends with some mexican kid that I "hired". He's real good because he's 100% obedient to me and does everything I say while never complaining. He knows that I am the man in the relationship and is completely submissive towards me as he should be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PizzaSHARK View Post
    I love how common "jaja" is for us. Peru doto best doto?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    slaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Cailan Ebonheart View Post
    I also do landscaping on weekends with some mexican kid that I "hired". He's real good because he's 100% obedient to me and does everything I say while never complaining. He knows that I am the man in the relationship and is completely submissive towards me as he should be.
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    Crissi the goddess of MMO, if i may. ./bow

  11. #18871
    Quote Originally Posted by PizzaSHARK View Post
    slaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaark
    Don't forget about techies and cancer storm spirit

    I don't hate slark actually, I'm surprised he's up there. Probably because when he's on the enemy team you constantly have to talk about him and tell clueless allies "slark missing" "slark going bot" "slark has shadow blade" "slark slark slark slark? slark! slark..."

    I don't think I've seen the word "doom" in months. I do wonder where it gets some of these words from. I totally believe all those typos it has listed though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    Don't forget about techies and cancer storm spirit

    I don't hate slark actually, I'm surprised he's up there. Probably because when he's on the enemy team you constantly have to talk about him and tell clueless allies "slark missing" "slark going bot" "slark has shadow blade" "slark slark slark slark? slark! slark..."

    I don't think I've seen the word "doom" in months. I do wonder where it gets some of these words from. I totally believe all those typos it has listed though.
    I don't know how you can hate SS and not hate lothar's Slark. Lothar's Slark is just as much of a brainless autowin hero as Eul's Lina or SS in general. Can't land a pounce to save your life? np walk up and pounce. Pounce on someone and use Dark Pact right away and here comes their team? np press lothar's button and instantly gain Heart of Tarrasque regen and haste rune and just walk away. Oh they dusted you? lol just dark pact it while you dip behind a tree and walk away at 522ms.
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    I also do landscaping on weekends with some mexican kid that I "hired". He's real good because he's 100% obedient to me and does everything I say while never complaining. He knows that I am the man in the relationship and is completely submissive towards me as he should be.
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    Crissi the goddess of MMO, if i may. ./bow

  13. #18873
    Quote Originally Posted by PizzaSHARK View Post
    I don't know how you can hate SS and not hate lothar's Slark. Lothar's Slark is just as much of a brainless autowin hero as Eul's Lina or SS in general. Can't land a pounce to save your life? np walk up and pounce. Pounce on someone and use Dark Pact right away and here comes their team? np press lothar's button and instantly gain Heart of Tarrasque regen and haste rune and just walk away. Oh they dusted you? lol just dark pact it while you dip behind a tree and walk away at 522ms.
    Cause doesn't do much burst damage late game, he only wins by getting 60 stacks of his passive and if you let him do that you probably lost in many other ways already. You just buy a gem and blow him up in fights cause he can't take a hit. That's the nice thing about his escape, it's not 3000 units at 1000/sec and it doesn't make him immune to damage like a certain hero, so as long as you can see him he's just like any other hero. Also, the extreme overuse of blink daggers makes his leap not as good as a getaway tool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    Don't forget about techies and cancer storm spirit

    I don't hate slark actually, I'm surprised he's up there. Probably because when he's on the enemy team you constantly have to talk about him and tell clueless allies "slark missing" "slark going bot" "slark has shadow blade" "slark slark slark slark? slark! slark..."

    I don't think I've seen the word "doom" in months. I do wonder where it gets some of these words from. I totally believe all those typos it has listed though.
    Cool players yell doom in voice chat
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    Cause doesn't do much burst damage late game, he only wins by getting 60 stacks of his passive and if you let him do that you probably lost in many other ways already. You just buy a gem and blow him up in fights cause he can't take a hit. That's the nice thing about his escape, it's not 3000 units at 1000/sec and it doesn't make him immune to damage like a certain hero, so as long as you can see him he's just like any other hero. Also, the extreme overuse of blink daggers makes his leap not as good as a getaway tool.
    Late game he's impossible to kill so he's guaranteed to get 60 stacks of essence shift. Dark Pact is necessary when he's made of paper but once he has skadi and sny and bkb and other shit that pushes his HP through the roof he's impossible to lock down or even really meaningfully damage.

    He's WAY worse than SS is past like 30-35 mins, honestly, especially with Shadowblade. His ult needs like a 1.5 sec activation time except when the active portion of the ult is being used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Cailan Ebonheart View Post
    I also do landscaping on weekends with some mexican kid that I "hired". He's real good because he's 100% obedient to me and does everything I say while never complaining. He knows that I am the man in the relationship and is completely submissive towards me as he should be.
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  16. #18876
    Quote Originally Posted by PizzaSHARK View Post
    Late game he's impossible to kill so he's guaranteed to get 60 stacks of essence shift. Dark Pact is necessary when he's made of paper but once he has skadi and sny and bkb and other shit that pushes his HP through the roof he's impossible to lock down or even really meaningfully damage.

    He's WAY worse than SS is past like 30-35 mins, honestly, especially with Shadowblade. His ult needs like a 1.5 sec activation time except when the active portion of the ult is being used.
    Assuming this works I have a pretty good winrate versus Slark. To be fair, I have a good winrate against any hero for the most part, but Storm is a bit lower. Also, Slark doesn't just teleport across the map and instakill you, he also can't stun you. He's also melee. His only mobility skill has a cooldown. He can't flash farm. I could go on, but I think you know, deep down, that no hero can out-bullshit Storm (except maybe Void).

    I'll say Slark is strong at certain points of the game. But he's not a legitimate carry. He's kind of like Antimage, great when he's ahead, but if he's even or behind he's pretty nonexistant. The trick is to not feed the shit out of him when he gets his blink or shadow blade because the hero is not particularly good at farming even with dark pact spam and infinite regen.

    Also, you can counter pick him. You can't really counter pick Storm. Silencer is probably your best bet, but that advantage disappears when he gets a BKB. Slark relies on killing people during his ult, throw a Leshrac next to him holding down pulse nova and casting stuns on top of the shadow and Slark is kind of boned.

    As a tip for antiSlarking, he relies on dark pact to do damage. You just have to wait for him to use it and then stun him. If he doesn't use it, you can usually just plain survive. Also, tp scroll counters him.
    Last edited by Lysah; 2015-07-03 at 05:26 AM.

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    ti5 music pack inspiration to die even less. rez tone sounds terrible.
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    Anyone else noticed that the "insta hex"(wyse) and "instant curse" (wyvern) are starting to become more common in ranked ?
    Fight breaks out and you use your blink from smoke to use your echo slam just to be hexed or cursed before you can even land on the ground. It's kinda impressive to manage to do it once when there is a 4v5 fight and you're being initiated on but 4-5 times in a game seems a bit much.

    Had it happen to me several times in the last few days from both sides (someone on my team or when playing against others). Not saying this is just with ES i've had it happen to other heroes as well but ES slam is so fast its hard to stop when using quick skill queue. This is the 4.5 bracket.

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    Even though I'm aware that these insta-hex/blink (ferrari 430) scripts have existed for a very long time, it's still more entertaining if your complaint post includes proof such as match ID or go the extra mile and youtube it like this dude.

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    I don't get it, are you talking about some scripts, or about CC spells with 0 cast point? Also, calling the scythe of vyse - wyse is dumb IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiiLoSNK View Post
    Even though I'm aware that these insta-hex/blink (ferrari 430) scripts have existed for a very long time, it's still more entertaining if your complaint post includes proof such as match ID or go the extra mile and youtube it like this dude.

    To be fair, i was accused in using something like that, when enemy Ursa just walked past two fucking wards and it was so obvious that he is blinking in front of me that i had to look outside of my monitor to not do so in no time.
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