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    I'm saying that it's entirely possible to react that quickly with an ability that has 0 cast time, not that this youtube clip is fake (which still could be fake, all you need is slap replay thingie with "player perspective" over the real one, and act like you are actually playing NP). All you have to do is report these people to get them vac banned.
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  2. #18882
    Guess I'll have to just take your word for it again. Probably fake video and hacks don't exist.
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    Nah, both fake videos and hacks do exist, but i wouldn't accuse someone in hacking before seeing match ID
    Quote Originally Posted by Urban Dictionary
    Russians are a nation inhabiting territory of Russia an ex-USSR countries. Russians enjoy drinking vodka and listening to the bears playing button-accordions. Russians are open- and warm- hearted. They are ready to share their last prianik (russian sweet cookie) with guests, in case lasts encounter that somewhere. Though, it's almost unreal, 'cos russians usually hide their stuff well.

  4. #18884
    You're good at dota.
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  5. #18885
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiiLoSNK View Post
    Even though I'm aware that these insta-hex/blink (ferrari 430) scripts have existed for a very long time, it's still more entertaining if your complaint post includes proof such as match ID or go the extra mile and youtube it like this dude.

    It seems you clearly missed the point of my question. I didnt blame anyone or complain. I asked if someone else had noticed if it had become more common to see even in lower brackets (4.5) compared to before.
    I know there are several videos that are easy to find or you can just google it and get example videos from the site that contain such scripts.

    next time read the question before making a unnecessary answer that just waste my time.

  6. #18886
    Then no, nobody else noticed and then talked about it without posting match ID as proof.

    Sorry for asking something so difficult, but kudos on getting so defensive. God forbid anyone see your based 4k game stats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiiLoSNK View Post
    Then no, nobody else noticed and then talked about it without posting match ID as proof.

    Sorry for asking something so difficult, but kudos on getting so defensive. God forbid anyone see your based 4k game stats.
    Sure be a dick if you want to, thats what the ignore list is for. Why would i post ID as proof when it got 0 to do with what i'm asking. If i wanted to show something i would clearly not have posted it on mmo champ but on dev.dota2.com like they've asked to.

    If you want to see 4k game stats just check games at dotabuff or something.

  8. #18888
    Anyone else notice people duping dota gold, aim-botting with mirana arrows, lag switching with void, maphacking with invoker sunstrikes, wallhacking with broodmother, and god-moding while carrying divine rapiers lately? It happens soooo often in my bracket.

    I mean sure, I COULD provide a match ID for the benefit of the discussion, but I don't want to for some reason, so don't you dare ask me to provide such data or I will ignore you and you will definitely care that I did that.
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    Aim botting with a potm arrow would be something.

  10. #18890
    ^^vv<><>BAstart
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    I remember someone blaming Sniper for using aimbot, because of all his headshots
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  12. #18892
    Gyrocopter reported for nuke boosting.
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  13. #18893
    Quote Originally Posted by Alexton View Post
    It seems you clearly missed the point of my question. I didnt blame anyone or complain. I asked if someone else had noticed if it had become more common to see even in lower brackets (4.5) compared to before.
    I know there are several videos that are easy to find or you can just google it and get example videos from the site that contain such scripts.

    next time read the question before making a unnecessary answer that just waste my time.
    Linking the replay shows other people what you mean and, most importantly, lets them see if its suspicious or just a moment of amazing skill, and second opinions from neutral parties don't hurt. If it actually is cheating you then have some proof you can show to Valve and let them take it from there.

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    iddqd or gtfo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrawberryZebra View Post
    Linking the replay shows other people what you mean and, most importantly, lets them see if its suspicious or just a moment of amazing skill, and second opinions from neutral parties don't hurt. If it actually is cheating you then have some proof you can show to Valve and let them take it from there.
    I know that i should link if i want a discussion but i didnt ask for one just a simple YES / NO / MAYBE would have been enough. Hence i see 0 reason why i should link anything. If you havent seen anything then you don't have to answer so it would sort itself out. Otherwise i would have made a thread about it.

    And if i link anything (like i stated earlier) i would do so on dev.dota2.com and not at mmo champion. Those that never seen anything could just type into google and find them. They have videos showing them used in different settings. I don't want to bring light to the issue as it might encourage more to use it. There are already easy to use scrips that are very common but most are harmless and don't cost money.

  15. #18895
    There has always been since dota 1 alot of automated scripting people. Its kind of weird that the community seems to care alot about it only recently and for heroes like techies of all things. Automated blinks and hex has been something in higher brackets, which never mattered anyway they cant be used on lans. These thing can never be caught via any kind of anti cheat anyway, any clown with decent knowledge can make their own.

    I mean dont get me wrong it is gay as fuck. But luckily dota is more then a game of reflexes and these scripts only slightly beat a good human player in speed. Having an increadible hex casting speed is good... but its not instant win like most other games cheats.

  16. #18896
    Uh, instant hex/euls is pretty game breaking and basically auto counters any blink initiator...

  17. #18897
    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    Uh, instant hex/euls is pretty game breaking and basically auto counters any blink initiator...
    Yet its still league bellow wallhacks or triggerbots in counter strike. Those simply makes the game impossible to win under pretty much any situation. Theres also multiple blink scripts out there. Even then these arent 100%, the targeting in instant hexes arent without fault as far as im aware. Like i said it is lame as fuck, but i face them from time to time against my stack and there are definitively ways around them. Ultimately all you can do is just report them with the match id, no anti cheat will ever be potent enough to prevent this kind of cheating because its just too simple to make up your own.

    Its like timers in Unreal Tournament or Quake, those are something a low tier computer amateur can do on his own, so theres like no real general known program to look for. The draw back of these simple programming cheats for amateur is that they arent as potent. Sure you know when armor spawns and to help you map control, but are you even gona be able to fight the other player for them? Same goes for those dota script, they dont instantly make you 5000+ mmr. A good triggerbot easily makes you global elite in CS:GO, well unless you get reported and banned before lol.
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  18. #18898
    Obviously they don't win the game for you, the simplest solution is to just not pick a blink initiator. But it still ruins a good chunk of the game. Any hero that relies on human reaction being not instant gets pretty much eliminated from the game, and that's a problem.

  19. #18899
    Quote Originally Posted by StrawberryZebra View Post
    iddqd or gtfo!


    Also, since we're still on the subject, I like the script that makes rubick insta-steal key spells from the other team the moment they are casted. VAC is capable of banning these types of things, but since there is such a staggeringly low number of people that actually use these scripts (at least on American servers) that it'll take them a while to detect and purge the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    Obviously they don't win the game for you, the simplest solution is to just not pick a blink initiator. But it still ruins a good chunk of the game. Any hero that relies on human reaction being not instant gets pretty much eliminated from the game, and that's a problem.
    Why does hex need to be instant, anyway? Why do items in general need to be instant?
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