1. #19961
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    You don't see Puppey arguing with Kuroky and then backstabbing his team, nor s4, nor zai. Even if Kuroky is the problem child of the team, it is still Arteezy's fault for arguing with him and creating drama that drags the rest of the team down. Fights require two people.
    You don't see those guys on the carry role either. Imagine playing carry and your supports keeps telling you what to do because he thinks he's better at the role.

  2. #19962
    xboct and rtz shit carries, Kky-god best rubick in the world is the niciest person and it isn't his fault at all

    also reddit shitting over eg is hilarious "aui won ti for eg, they focused aui heroes he was the best player" fucking rtadrd, even fear with 1 arm can play aui techies.
    "We live in a world where a style of play that uses posession and passing to try and make spaces is made fun of.
    While a style of play where a team sits back for 90 minutes and breaks away in 1v1 situations is respected."
    - Ronald Koeman.

  3. #19963
    Quote Originally Posted by Ariadne View Post
    You don't see those guys on the carry role either. Imagine playing carry and your supports keeps telling you what to do because he thinks he's better at the role.
    Even RTZ admitted on stream that he screwed up by creating team drama with kuroky, from what I've seen, sooo

    Sounds like what Secret should have done, if they wanted to win, was just ignore Kuroky and let him talk to himself.

  4. #19964
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    Even RTZ admitted on stream that he screwed up by creating team drama with kuroky, from what I've seen, sooo

    Sounds like what Secret should have done, if they wanted to win, was just ignore Kuroky and let him talk to himself.
    Problem Kuroky didn't listen and didn't want to work as a team. Arteezy also said on stream that even Puppey realized the problems with Kuroky now and those guys have been friends forever.

  5. #19965
    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    Even RTZ admitted on stream that he screwed up by creating team drama with kuroky.
    Then is it not the opposite of an ego driven asshole? He admit his own flaws that are reactionary to an actual asshole? Thats the second time KKY leads to drama with a #1 position, is XBOCT an asshole too? That would be exactly the opposite of what literally everyone knowing or meeting the guy would say.

  6. #19966
    Puppey is a soft spoken german prince, RTZ is a raging canadian teen, and Kuroky is a complaining manlet. Nothing any of them did seemed out of character in any way.

    I feel bad for aui still since he was always a generally nice person whenever I saw him in dota/diablo. Maybe him, jingjun, and wayto can get the old potm bottom crew back together.
    "I'm not stuck in the trench, I'm maintaining my rating."

  7. #19967
    https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comme...lated_version/

    fuking kek


    edit: confirmed true

    about to hit 1k pages boys do it
    Last edited by EqualWin; 2015-08-16 at 01:21 AM.
    "We live in a world where a style of play that uses posession and passing to try and make spaces is made fun of.
    While a style of play where a team sits back for 90 minutes and breaks away in 1v1 situations is respected."
    - Ronald Koeman.

  8. #19968
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    Anyway, back to Dota 2. I really think TA is underrated. When they changed so she could farm ancients, buffed Blink with Refraction and Desolator cost I think she is just a super solid pick. She can be countered though but as a third or forth pick I think she is extremely strong. Her winrate in TI5 shows this too. 68% win rate with 78% win rate during Main Event. She also counters Storm in my opinion. She also thrives on the 5v5 skirmishes teams are doing in this meta. She doesn't rely on long cooldowns to fight.

  9. #19969
    I didn't think TA being really strong was an unpopular opinion.

    But then again, I also didn't think this thread would make it to 1000 pages.
    "I'm not stuck in the trench, I'm maintaining my rating."

  10. #19970
    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    I highly doubt EG picked up RTZ to "Strengthen the roster." It's more likely a safety measure against Fear needing to take time off and them losing their hard carry, something that would kill the team overnight. Now, if Fear goes in for surgery or otherwise needs time off, they only have to replace a support, not a pivotal role on their team. I'm sure they know they let go one of the best players in the world, but they want the insurance more.
    You are really grasping at straws here. There is no indication that Fear is at any risks of being injured again and I have never even heard it brought up since he returned to competitive play.

    You have to face the reality that Arteezy is a more desirable player than Aui.

    Aui is a good support but there is nothing he could do as a support that Fear couldn't also do, as opposed to there being many things that Arteezy can do as a carry that Fear can't do as a carry.

    Even when you examine the entire roster it is obvious why Aui was chosen to boot.

    Fear - Been on the team the longest.
    Sumail - A rising star and the best mid in the world
    Universe - Without question one of the top 3 offlaners in the world
    PPD - Captain of the team and one of the best drafters in the world

    Aui - Hasn't been on the team for very long, a good support player but not irreplaceable, Has been inconsistent depending on the meta

    That is really all it comes down to. I don't really care tbh even though Aui is nice.

    Arteezy is just a more entertaining player and Aui will still end up on some T1 team for the majors and I'm sure he will place just fine. He also just won $1.2 million so I find it hard to shed any tears for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ariadne View Post
    Anyway, back to Dota 2. I really think TA is underrated. When they changed so she could farm ancients, buffed Blink with Refraction and Desolator cost I think she is just a super solid pick. She can be countered though but as a third or forth pick I think she is extremely strong. Her winrate in TI5 shows this too. 68% win rate with 78% win rate during Main Event. She also counters Storm in my opinion. She also thrives on the 5v5 skirmishes teams are doing in this meta. She doesn't rely on long cooldowns to fight.
    The problem with TA is that her meta viability is entirely dependent on how many meta heroes have abilities that go through refraction or can easily take down refraction and right now there are quite a few.

  11. #19971
    PL/GYRO/Lesh meta kinda makes TA a very situational pick. I dont think shes in need of anything, just the favorites right now are straight unbeatable for her. Otherwise shes a solid right click mid like SF, which has a simular problem he falls off flat when the meta is gone in another direction then what he can thrive in.

    Til post TI patch, she will remain fringe.
    Last edited by minteK917; 2015-08-16 at 02:31 AM.

  12. #19972
    I wouldn't say quite a few. Or that refraction charges is even her biggest problem.

    Her high phys burst damage actually made her great this meta which is why she did so good in ti5.

    She'll get nerfed before she gets buffed if anything.
    "I'm not stuck in the trench, I'm maintaining my rating."

  13. #19973
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouch View Post
    PL/GYRO/Lesh meta kinda makes TA a very situational pick. I dont think shes in need of anything, just the favorites right now are straight unbeatable for her. Otherwise shes a solid right click mid like SF, which has a simular problem he falls off flat when the meta is gone in another direction then what he can thrive in.

    Til post TI patch, she will remain fringe.
    TA is a counter to Gyro, in my humble opinion. Lesh is always banned. Lina doesn't do well against TA. QoP gets countered by TA later in the game. SF and TA aren't similar at all. SF doesn't burst like TA do and lacks the mobility of a Blink TA. A SF can't just blink on a Gyro and go ham or blink on a Storm and remove 80% of his HP with one attack.

  14. #19974
    Quote Originally Posted by Ariadne View Post
    TA is a counter to Gyro, in my humble opinion. Lesh is always banned. Lina doesn't do well against TA. QoP gets countered by TA later in the game. SF and TA aren't similar at all. SF doesn't burst like TA do and lacks the mobility of a Blink TA. A SF can't just blink on a Gyro and go ham or blink on a Storm and remove 80% of his HP with one attack.
    PL, Dark Seer and Naga still wreck TA though and those 3 are very common picks so TA falls into this weird situational category as a mid and it is easy for captains to tell when she counters their team so they will just ban her before they let that happen.

  15. #19975
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    You are really grasping at straws here. There is no indication that Fear is at any risks of being injured again and I have never even heard it brought up since he returned to competitive play.
    https://twitter.com/FearDotA/status/632086257095438336 posted right before the drama started.


    I don't know about kuroky, people in reddit seem to love him a lot "cuz he's such a chill dude" but it takes two for tango. I don't really approve much of the kitchen psychology of reddit either, I've just always had the impression that outside of skill factors Arteezy is pretty far from a desirable teammate. I've followed HoN/dota2 for a while and it's becoming increasingly obvious to me that leadership and team synergy matter a lot, maybe even more than the sum of individual skill of the players in the team.

    I've been spamming TA lately because it's the hero I kinda always wanted to be good at but didn't play at all in dota 1 and not too much in 2... can't say I'm very good at it yet, but holy crap people just love counter picking that hero if you make the mistake of picking too early.
    Last edited by Hermanni; 2015-08-16 at 03:06 AM.

  16. #19976
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    PL, Dark Seer and Naga still wreck TA though and those 3 are very common picks so TA falls into this weird situational category as a mid and it is easy for captains to tell when she counters their team so they will just ban her before they let that happen.
    TA didn't have a high ban rate. Gyro gets picked up early which will eliminate the possibility of a PL. Dark Seer gets picked up early too. That's why I said she's a good 3rd-4th pick. Not a first pick material.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermanni View Post
    [url]I've been spamming TA lately because it's the hero I kinda always wanted to be good at but didn't play at all in dota 1 and not too much in 2... can't say I'm very good at it yet, but holy crap people just love counter picking that hero if you make the mistake of picking too early.
    Slark is really the only counter I find annoying to deal with. Most of the others are fine. My tip for learning TA: Don't buy Phase Boots like Wagamama does. I hate that build. Actually, I hate Phase Boots.

  17. #19977
    Phase boots biggest waste of gold even more now that its nuking meta. Either get threads or just stick to brown boots and finish your drums/yasha or something.

  18. #19978
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouch View Post
    Phase boots biggest waste of gold even more now that its nuking meta. Either get threads or just stick to brown boots and finish your drums/yasha or something.
    Drums and Yasha are such a waste in this meta too. Desolator is just too good to pass up now. In my opinion, TA should be played as a high burst hero now with Blink Dagger while still having excellent sustain damage with treads. Treads also allows her to be a farming monster.

  19. #19979
    anyone else struggling to play dota 2 after TI? I have no motivation to play at all. Can already tell what heroes/what people will say before I even log in

  20. #19980
    Quote Originally Posted by LiiLoSNK View Post
    I didn't think TA being really strong was an unpopular opinion.

    But then again, I also didn't think this thread would make it to 1000 pages.
    That moment you realize this thread is actually really small still.

    Also I love TA, I just suck horribly at her.

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