1. #19961
    I still prefer stats build over blink midas, because it makes you unkilleable pretty much, I hate that his Q cancel his blink.
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  2. #19962
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    Quote Originally Posted by EqualWin View Post
    I still prefer stats build over blink midas, because it makes you unkilleable pretty much, I hate that his Q cancel his blink.
    I did too but I just recently changed my mind. Aggresif used the Blink build too and its strength lies in your ability to move to enemy woods or to other lanes very fast. It also allows you to hit pounces easier on squishy heroes in the back. I feel SB cooldown is too long. If you use SB to initiate on a support you won't use it again that fight. Blink can be used multiple times. But again, the main strength of Midas Blink is that you move around the map very fast and can join fights and still split push or farm enemy jungle.

  3. #19963
    Quote Originally Posted by EqualWin View Post
    my god I am so stupid for calibrating when I had around 300 games around 500 hours iirc, I calibrated at 3.5k lel, I was about to make a smurf and see my real mmr but w.e I guess I can farm it.

    after 2k+ h started playing ranked for real aka sober this week pretty much and finally hit 4k, such cancerous games, everyone flames 9/10 games are just cancer.

    road to 5k kappa, I kinda lesh pretty much for 3900 to 4k, but I swear all those games were cancer. if it wasn't cuz i won mid, I'd lose all of them
    http://www.dotabuff.com/players/104185466
    lel i have the exact same problem, though i cant bring myself to play those crap cancer 3.7-4k mmr games they are just too random unless you spam lesh mid

  4. #19964
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    I actually hate dota right now, every game its Lesh, Storm, Bloodseeker and gyro.

    Gone are the days when you could pick whatever the fuck you wanted now you get flamed if you don't pick fucking gyro / am every game.

    Shit tier game atm.

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  6. #19966
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puffler View Post
    I actually hate dota right now, every game its Lesh, Storm, Bloodseeker and gyro.

    Gone are the days when you could pick whatever the fuck you wanted now you get flamed if you don't pick fucking gyro / am every game.

    Shit tier game atm.
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  7. #19967
    Quote Originally Posted by Puffler View Post
    I actually hate dota right now, every game its Lesh, Storm, Bloodseeker and gyro.

    Gone are the days when you could pick whatever the fuck you wanted now you lose if you don't pick fucking gyro / am every game.

    Shit tier game atm.
    Fixed that for you mate. That's the worst part of this patch for me, the top heroes have no outright counters and are always good picks. At least there were ways of dealing with troll/sniper, bloodseeker existed, as did heroes like SD - at the end of the day, those heroes were just right clickers. AM is probably your best bet against the mana heavy mids, but Storm destroys AM if he doesn't get a fast manta and it's really easy to punish AM pickers when you know it's coming because people pick him every game.

  8. #19968
    Quote Originally Posted by Puffler View Post
    I actually hate dota right now, every game its Lesh, Storm, Bloodseeker and gyro.

    Gone are the days when you could pick whatever the fuck you wanted now you get flamed if you don't pick fucking gyro / am every game.

    Shit tier game atm.
    And yet if you pick Sniper/Riki, you get flamed if you're doing well for being a "Noob picker".

    Probably the same for Bloodseeker though.

    Probably another reason I'm glad to be lower in MMR in general even, most players don't even know how to play Lesh, Storm, or Gyro. Bloodseeker I'll see still, but most the time they don't end up wrecking face. Also All Random is usually what I end up queuing up for nowadays anyway.

  9. #19969
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    Sniper is still decent imo. His problem is that he requires too much farm to be good, he starts wrecking late game(45+) which with heroes like Storm,Lesh,BS being popular kinda kills that.
    Bloodseeker is popular imo due to the fact that he lanes very easily, the self heal from Bloodrage means that any bs player can stay in lane while taking some harassment so long as they can last hit.

  10. #19970
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Sniper is still decent imo. His problem is that he requires too much farm to be good, he starts wrecking late game(45+) which with heroes like Storm,Lesh,BS being popular kinda kills that.
    Bloodseeker is popular imo due to the fact that he lanes very easily, the self heal from Bloodrage means that any bs player can stay in lane while taking some harassment so long as they can last hit.
    Oh I enjoy Sniper personally, I just mean someone on the other team will always decide to point out how "easy" Sniper is, and how you should play a "real hero".

    And yeah, I do enjoy that about Bloodseeker myself, but you just reminded me of a Bloodseeker I had the other day who would always Bloodrage the PA on the other team as he was about to die, so she would just crit him and heal up.

  11. #19971
    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    I've literally never seen a Leshrac get shut down
    Then why are half of the last two pages you arguing about Storm while expicitly saying Lina/Lesh are np because they're squishy and easy to shut down? If you're gonna argue for something, at least be consistent on your stance.

    You seem to think there is no counter to Storm, but a 5k gold item (Linken's) or a 20+ minute Glimmer on supports is an easy counter to Lina's 12 minute Eul's. Lina does what Storm does without the safety of his escape. Go in, wreck out of position person, go back to farming/group up and take objectives. Alternatively, a good counter to BKB/high impact supports with Aghs ult.

    In general I do agree though, feels worse playing against Storm than Lina/Lesh. A Storm can drag the game out longer unless it's an absolute stomp than the other two I feel. At least it's no Bounty Hunter where all you need is one good fight and you get back in the game, no matter how much ahead the other team is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jester Joe View Post
    Oh I enjoy Sniper personally, I just mean someone on the other team will always decide to point out how "easy" Sniper is, and how you should play a "real hero".

    And yeah, I do enjoy that about Bloodseeker myself, but you just reminded me of a Bloodseeker I had the other day who would always Bloodrage the PA on the other team as he was about to die, so she would just crit him and heal up.
    I think the opposite. Its hard to play sniper in the current meta. Easy to gank, his abilities are not that good at stopping anyone, bkb stops his long range nuking ult or blinking for that matter. If you can play a sniper as a carry and beat out a team with Storm or Lesh in it then well....

  13. #19973
    Quote Originally Posted by Teebu View Post
    Then why are half of the last two pages you arguing about Storm while expicitly saying Lina/Lesh are np because they're squishy and easy to shut down? If you're gonna argue for something, at least be consistent on your stance.
    I am consistent. You can't stop Lesh from farming. However, you can kill 6 slotted Lesh MUCH MUCH MUCH easier than you can kill a 6 slotted Storm. Even with Octarine this hero is still pretty easy to kill as long as you have a farmed carry. Storm will just zipzap in circles around your team.

    You seem to think there is no counter to Storm, but a 5k gold item (Linken's) or a 20+ minute Glimmer on supports is an easy counter to Lina's 12 minute Eul's. Lina does what Storm does without the safety of his escape. Go in, wreck out of position person, go back to farming/group up and take objectives. Alternatively, a good counter to BKB/high impact supports with Aghs ult.
    Did I ever say Linken's was a counter to any of these heroes? I hope not, that item is godawful in most games. There isn't a reliable counter to any of the popular mids right now, which is why they are so popular. You don't have to be good at dota to be good at lesh/lina/storm/qop, these heroes will always get farm and they will always get kills. Three of them are possible to kill, though.

    I will agree BH is probably the most bullshit hero in the game right now, but is much harder to play than the rest. I can safely say, having lost like 8 party ranked matches in a row with a friend who keeps first picking BH, he is not the same level of guaranteed win that the other heroes are.

    You'll notice I haven't complained much about BS or Gyro, both of these heroes are way over the top and broken as well. But, they are slightly harder to play than the int mids and take more thought than just press R and win instantly. It's not heroes being way stronger than the rest of the pool that pisses me off, per se, it's that combined with being brain dead easy to play. Too many people can abuse this patch and gain ridiculous amounts of MMR they don't deserve, and it's all going to come crashing down when the next patch comes out. Really, most of the skill of playing mid has been taken out of the game by this and the last patch. Enemy counter picked you or is just better at last hitting? Don't worry, nuke down the creep wave and go stack jungle camps in your free time and you'll outfarm him anyway.
    Last edited by Lysah; 2015-09-16 at 05:56 PM.

  14. #19974
    back to 3900 KEK, lost as lesh cuz our had a lina that raged and feed pmuch and axe that didnt want to do rosh and yolo all the game, tho it was working till he bb and tp and died again 1v4-5

    and as a bounty vs 1st pick huskar because our mid pick LC vs Lesh and our tiny went drums and mom 1st, jesus this games r cancer i dont even wanna grind anymore


    I disagree at gyro being harder than storm, or even bloodseeker. anyone can play those heroes, storm you've to be good with it, unless u've no lockdown like I saw in ur games vs storm.
    Last edited by EqualWin; 2015-09-16 at 06:31 PM.
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    While a style of play where a team sits back for 90 minutes and breaks away in 1v1 situations is respected."
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  15. #19975
    Quote Originally Posted by EqualWin View Post
    I disagree at gyro being harder than storm, or even bloodseeker. anyone can play those heroes, storm you've to be good with it, unless u've no lockdown like I saw in ur games vs storm.
    Can we agree that anyone who can lock down Storm can lock down Gyro just as easily? If not much, much easier?

  16. #19976
    but gyro always goes for bkb and he wont die as fast as storm will
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    While a style of play where a team sits back for 90 minutes and breaks away in 1v1 situations is respected."
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  17. #19977
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    Caster QoP is really so much fun.

    http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1798336765

  18. #19978
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puffler View Post
    Caster QoP is really so much fun.

    http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1798336765
    Where's the Dagon, bro?

    Miracle- seems so good. Another promising new player.

  19. #19979
    Aaaaaand the miracle m-god holy crap hype has begone just cause of 1 good juke lol..... ofc hes good but come on its as envy said ''casual AM game'', nothing amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M1r4g3 View Post
    Aaaaaand the miracle m-god holy crap hype has begone just cause of 1 good juke lol..... ofc hes good but come on its as envy said ''casual AM game'', nothing amazing.
    Listen to Envy all you want but Envy wasn't paying attention. Noobs judge him from one good juke but anyone who understands this game can see that he is a really good player. And let's not kid ourselves, that juke showed a lot too. It shows his presence of mind in a situation where 99.99% of all players would have choked.
    Last edited by mmoc9f3c8526e6; 2015-09-16 at 09:42 PM.

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