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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by PandarianLeakage View Post
    PvPers already have Challenger though, so he's right, "The Challenged" is perfect for the crowd that's still subscribed to PvE wow.
    without the ones subscribing to the pve wow there wouldnt be a wow.

    1 out of 30 empty servers being a pve server isnt a coincident

  2. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by snegro View Post
    The Challenged, for Bronze. I've never been more pleased in my life.
    Silent hint from Blizzard what they really think of people who can't clear more than bronze.

  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by greech View Post
    I don't really see how the challenge modes are targeted at heroic raiders more than anyone else. Unless I severely misunderstood the concept, all that heroic raid gear isn't going to be an advantage to them at all. I'm sure they'll still GET them in the end, due to the drive to do so, but I imagine the competition will be much, much closer on the world and server stages than the heroic raid racers are just due to the fact that the heroic raiders will be putting most of their time and energy into the world/region firsts instead of the "server five man firsts"
    They have said that challenge modes will be a "new kind of activity for max level players that enjoy dungeons and raids" and that "they feel only a few percent of players on each realm will ever get gold."

    You're right that heroic gear won't give any benefit in challenge modes, but I would imagine that the vast majority of extremely skilled players who enjoy dungeons and raids are probably heroic raiders right now, which means they're part of a 10/25-man team. Consider a scenario where you have a realm first quality 10-man guild with 10 equally skilled raiders, but only 5 will get the feat of strength. How do you choose? No matter which way you cut it, someone loses. In my eyes, the fun of being in a guild is cooperating toward a common goal and sharing victories. I just don't see the fun factor in having a one-time-only group event that you can't enjoy with everyone. Personal realm firsts would just take us back to the WotLK paradigm where players get left out of group victories and a guild is nothing more than a tag under your name...

    I also don't see where you're going with the heroic raid vs. challenge mode argument. That's fine if world first guilds don't care about challenge modes; my point is that in any guild, more than 5 people are going to want the achievement but if it's personal, only 5 will ever get it.

    As someone in a realm-first guild in WotLK, the realm first kills were some of the most taxing times on the guild. On the night of our Death's Demise kill, the main tank was called in to work and we killed it 30 minutes after he left. This guy had been a consistent raider since vanilla, and was a great raider who really deserved the kill. It should have been a really exciting event for all, but everyone felt guilty for killing it without him and he was crushed when he learned the news. It was just a depressing experience for everyone (except for the initiate tank who we brought in for the kill and server transferred immediately afterward).

    This is probably all a moot point though. As other posters have pointed out, we're still only in alpha (if that) so these achievements may very well be guild achievements. I'm just speaking hypothetically here =)

  4. #44
    High Overlord Lioneil's Avatar
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    *clears throat* Don't go chasing waterfalls.
    Please stick to the rivers and the lakes that you're used to.
    I know that you're gonna have it your way or nothing at all,
    but I think you're moving too fast.

    thankyou thankyou i be here all night

  5. #45
    Mogu'shan Vaults - Defeat all of the bosses in Mogu'shan Vaults. (Quilin Guard, ??, Trollwerk, Four Kings, Celestial Serpent, and Terracotta Army)

    pathetic and uninspiring unimmersing boss names.

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    10000 watefalls... meh don´t you remember when in Cataclysm beta there was this?:

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    oh ppl c'mon
    10,000 waterfals? placeholder obviously

    remember "kill 1,000,000 tuskar" during wotlk beta?
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awfulx View Post
    "The Challenged" hahahahahaha perfect title for pve kids.
    They just need to add pvp titles like "The Chronically Crying" and "Forum Whiner"

  10. #50
    Herald of the Titans Porimlys's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aetherial View Post
    10,000 waterfalls? o.O
    Probably a placeholder number?

    Maybe? >_>

    I have seen a lot of waterfalls in screenshots <_<

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simca View Post
    Visit 10,000 waterfalls?

    God, I'm afraid to see the tooltip for that achievement.
    I'm not even sure there are 10000 waterfalls in this game. XD

  12. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by azzer24 View Post
    fixed it for you.
    This x10000

  13. #53
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    What a View - Visit each of the 10,000 waterfalls in Pandaria.
    Imagine being stuck at 9.999 and looking for that 1 last f.. waterfall.*

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    Scarab Lord Chonar's Avatar
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    Aww, Lillian Voss as a scholomance boss?
    Her fight better be epic. Kinda thought she deserved more than that. Better than nothing though, I guess.
    If World of Warcraft has taught me anything, it's that teaching a crowd something is far harder than teaching individuals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simca View Post
    Visit 10,000 waterfalls?

    God, I'm afraid to see the tooltip for that achievement.
    Yeah... this will be interesting.

  16. #56
    High Overlord unownn's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boubouille View Post
    Mists of Pandaria Press Tour Achievements
    This is the list of achievements available during the Press Tour of Mists of Pandaria.
    Originally Posted by MMO-Champion

    Dungeon Challenges
    • Bronze Challenge: Stormstout Brewery
    • Silver Challenge: Stormstout Brewery - Reward: A piece of challenge armor.
    • Gold Challenge: Stormstout Brewery
    • Full Bronze: Mists of Pandaria - Achieve a Bronze Challenge in every Mists of Pandaria dungeon. Title: The Challenged (NNF)
    • Full Silver: Mists of Pandaria - Achieve a Silver Challenge in every Mists of Pandaria dungeon.
    • Full Gold: Mists of Pandaria - Achieve a Gold Challenge in every Mists of Pandaria dungeon. Reward: Sweet Mount

    Feats of Strength
    • Realm First: Gold Challenge: Stormstout Brewery
    • Realm First: Gold Challenge: Temple of the Jade Serpent
    • Realm First: Full Gold: Mists of Pandaria
    • Realm First: Full Silver: Mists of Pandaria
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  17. #57
    Herald of the Titans Strafer's Avatar
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    Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
    • What a View - Visit each of the 10,000 waterfalls in Pandaria.

    That is sick!

  18. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Strafer View Post
    Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
    • What a View - Visit each of the 10,000 waterfalls in Pandaria.

    That is sick!

    It's over 9000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  19. #59
    The number of waterfalls:

  20. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by Awfulx View Post
    "The Challenged" hahahahahaha perfect title for pve kids.
    LoL, pvp "kids". Says the kiddo himself.
    Insanity is repeating the same action and expecting different results. *Cough, Blizzard!, COUGH*

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