Originally Posted by
Xsy
I do not understand how some people are saying that the decline of 25's is caused by the needs of the players rather than by Blizzard incorrect managing. The only thing one needs to do is to look a few years back to Vanilla and BC. In Vanilla , I had been in a low - medium populated server that had 8~ 40men! raiding guilds. At least 4 of these guilds raided AQ40 and Naxx. In BC , in a different server , but also a low - medium one , there were 12~ 25men raiding guilds , and about 5 of them raided The Black Temple and Sunwell. Now , the same server with an increased population has only 2 25men raiding guilds , and they have not cleared everything yet.
In addition , some people might complain that a great number of individuals did not experience all of the content because they couldn't raid. That is true , but , that's the point of an achievement based game. You are not supposed to kill Illidan by just finding a random group of people that feels like killing him , in fact , you are supposed to work towards it with your guild , to gather gear and consumables until you reach that final boss and via a group effort you finally kill him. This makes the kill epic and worth investing in , in contrast to today when you have pug groups to kill Deathwing! Freaking Deathwing! The strongest Aspect of them all , one of the most feared creatures in the Warcraft lore can now be killed by a LFM group in Stormwind , some might disagree , but I think that's just sad.
The reason this happens is because of the decreased difference between 10's and 25's in Cataclysm. Why invest in a 25men guild if one can get the same gear and rewards with 10men raids. In my opinion , the only way to save the decline of the 25's is to make it differ greatly from the 10's. For example: Not to allow access to an end - boss before a guild had been able to kill it in 25 mode , or to create a different tier just for 25's. This way , people will strive to create and manage 25's just as they did in BC.
I just hope that MoP will fix this anomaly , and even if it wont , I will still try to enjoy the 25's I will run in it.