[MoP] Symbiosis

**Manu9** · 2012-03-22, 06:04 AM

Mod edit: I took the liberty of editing the first post and turn it into an information post (Mihir)

Symbiosis
30 yd range. 6 sec cast.
Creates a symbiotic link which grants the Druid one ability belonging to the target's class, varying by the Druid's specialization.
In exchange, grants the target one Druid ability based on their class and combat role.
Lasts 60 min and persists through death. Cannot be cast on other Druids. Effect cancelled if Druid and target become too far apart.

Also according to http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/to...4?page=23#450: "Symbiosis cannot be cast in combat." So we're stuck with a certain symbiosis per fight, can't switch halfway.
Update: After some testing, found it also can't be cast on a target that's in combat.

All classes except druid will get the following spell in their spellbook (unknown at what level):
Symbiosis
When Symbiosis is cast on you by a Druid, this button will be replaced by the new ability you have temporarily learned.
UPDATE: The generic Symbiosis spell doesn't appear in your spellbook; it's a placeholder ability on your actionbars if you had put a real symbiosis ability there and then lost the symbiosis.

BOLD abilities are CONFIRMED
Updated 12-7-'12

Abilities that are granted by Symbiosis:
Death Knight
Blood - Might of Ursoc (15%)
Frost / Unholy - Wild Mushroom: Plague

Hunter
Dash

Mage
Healing Touch (10s cd)

Monk
Brewmaster - Survival Instincts (25%/6s)
Windwalker - Bear Hug (was Berserk)
Mistwalker - Entangling Roots

Paladin
Holy - Rebirth
Retribution - Wrath (was Tiger's Fury)
Protection - Barkskin (10%/6s)

Priest
Discipline / Holy - Cyclone
Shadow - Tranquility (usable in shadowform)

Rogue
Growl

Shaman
Elemental / Enhancement - Solar Beam
Resto - Prowl

Warlock
Rejuvenation

Warrior
Arms / Fury - Stampeding Shout (was Enrage)
Protection - Savage Defense (2min cd) (was Frenzied Regeneration (1min cd))

Balance
Death Knight - Anti-Magic Shell
Hunter - Misdirection
Mage - Mirror Image
Monk - Grapple Weapon
Paladin - Hammer of Justice
Priest - Mass Dispel
Rogue - Cloak of Shadows
Shaman - Purge
Warlock - Unending Resolve (was Soulshatter)
Warrior - Intervene (was Recklessness)

Feral
Death Knight - Death Coil (was Unholy Frenzy)
Hunter - Play Dead
Mage - Frost Nova
Monk - Clash
Paladin - Divine Shield
Priest - Dispersion
Rogue - Redirect
Shaman - Feral Spirit
Warlock - Soul Swap
Warrior - Shattering Blow

Guardian
Death Knight - Bone Shield (10%/3 charges) (was Chains of Ice)
Hunter - Ice Trap
Mage - Frost Armor
Monk - Elusive Brew (10%/8s/60s cd)
Paladin - Consecration
Priest - Fear Ward
Rogue - Feint (10%) (was Smoke Bomb)
Shaman - Lightning Shield
Warlock - Life Tap (20% health/30 rage/15s cd) (was Twilight Ward)
Warrior - Spell Reflection

Resto
Death Knight - Icebound Fortitude
Hunter - Deterrence
Mage - Ice Block
Monk - Fortifying Brew
Paladin - Cleanse (was Hand of Sacrifice)
Priest - Leap of Faith
Rogue - Evasion
Shaman - Spiritwalker's Grace
Warlock - Demonic Circle: Teleport
Warrior - Intimidating Roar

**Cellion** · 2012-03-22, 06:09 AM

Awesome finds! Dispersion is gonna be crazy.

**Batix** · 2012-03-22, 06:20 AM

Almost makes me double-take away from mirror images. Almost.

Deleted · 2012-03-22, 06:20 AM

With AMS, willl we also get something back? (Feral energy, bear rage, moonkin ? )

**stormgust** · 2012-03-22, 06:27 AM

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http://www.wowdb.com/spells/110567-unholy-frenzy

**Divisible** · 2012-03-22, 06:49 AM

Dispersion....I do want...

**Ristaccia** · 2012-03-22, 07:03 AM

For Ret from Feral:
http://www.wowdb.com/spells/113076-tigers-fury

Working on an actual table of options, but it may be a while.

**Protoman** · 2012-03-22, 07:11 AM

I really don't like this talent. Sounds too complicated. I think they should scrap it and come up with something better. Some of these abilities look cool to have like the cds, some are lame like lightning shield or consecration. I'm sure its the same for other classes, might get barkskin or natures grasp. Seems too random and I don't like the idea of unique class spells being shared between classes.

**Mewseph** · 2012-03-22, 07:14 AM

**stormgust** · 2012-03-22, 07:14 AM

**Venteus** · 2012-03-22, 07:31 AM

Originally Posted by Protoman

I really don't like this talent. Sounds too complicated. I think they should scrap it and come up with something better. Some of these abilities look cool to have like the cds, some are lame like lightning shield or consecration. I'm sure its the same for other classes, might get barkskin or natures grasp. Seems too random and I don't like the idea of unique class spells being shared between classes.

Have to strongly disagree with you here. This adds SO MUCH dynamic to every type of druid that it makes it even more versatile (the halmark of the class), strategic, and in many ways something you WANT to bring with you into a raid or pvp team setting because of the utility. I don't see it getting any better then that.

Does it make matters more complicated? Absolutely, if you want to min/max your DPS, you need to consider who you bring with you. If you need additional survivability, you need to ask yourself the same question. I see it as a good thing, really.

For example (and without giving this much thought), an AoE heavy fight might require you give your sym to a DK. Or a fight where you are required to move from one place to another immediately, might require you use your warlock's portal. The possibilities are endless!

**stormgust** · 2012-03-22, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by Venteus

For example (and without giving this much thought), an AoE heavy fight might require you give your sym to a DK. Or a fight where you are required to move from one place to another immediately, might require you use your warlock's portal. The possibilities are endless!

Quite honest that you always will have something better to choose from, than the warlock currently offers.

**Jibjabb** · 2012-03-22, 07:52 AM

Originally Posted by stormgust

You realize youre not "giving it away" youre just letting them use it as well right? You still get to keep it. Symbiosis doesnt make you lose any abilities. Only lets you gain one.

**Sillicis** · 2012-03-22, 07:59 AM

Priest seems like one of the best options really.
a 2nd free tranq and dispersion for those OSHIT situations/blackhorn soaking mechanics.

**Elunedra** · 2012-03-22, 08:01 AM

it kinda depents on witch druid role can access witch ability's but sofar it seems pretty awsome for tanking whit dispersion, buble or lightning shield for threat :P

**Ristaccia** · 2012-03-22, 08:43 AM

Here's where I'm at so far. Definitely far from complete, and there could be some errors. This was all taken from tooltips in the WoWDB and from the examples given via blueposts.

Looking at Symbiosis tooltip wording: As druids, depending upon our spec, we gain one appropriate spell from the given class. The given class gains one druid spell which is appropriate for their class and role. As such:

1) Druids can obtain 4 spells from each class - one for each talent specialization (Balance, Feral, Guardian, Resto).
2) The recipients of Symbiosis can receive 3 spells from druids - one for each talent specialization (since every other class only has 3 specializations).

Druids gain:

DK:
Balance - Chains of Ice
Feral - Unholy Frenzy
Guardian - Icebound Fortitude
Resto - Anti-Magic Shell?

Hunter:
Balance - Misdirection?
Feral - Play Dead
Guardian - Ice Trap
Resto - Deterrence?

Mage:
Balance - Mirror Image
Feral - Frost Nova
Guardian - Mage Ward
Resto - Ice Block

Monk:
Balance -
Feral -
Guardian -
Resto -

Paladin:
Balance - Hammer of Justice?
Feral - Divine Shield?
Guardian - Consecration
Resto - Hand of Sacrifice

Priest:
Balance - Mass Dispel
Feral - Dispersion?
Guardian - Fear Ward
Resto - Leap of Faith

Rogue:
Balance - Smoke Bomb?
Feral - Redirect
Guardian - Evasion?
Resto - Cloak of Shadows?

Shaman:
Balance - Purge
Feral - Feral Spirit
Guardian - Lightning Shield (Wrath Shield)
Resto - Spiritwalker's Grace

Warlock:
Balance - Soulshatter?
Feral - Soul Swap
Guardian - Twilight Ward?
Resto - Demonic Circle: Teleport

Warrior:
Balance - Recklessness
Feral - Shattering Blow
Guardian - Spell Reflection
Resto - Intimidating Roar?

Recipients gain:

DK:
Blood - Survival Instincts
Frost - Wild Mushroom: Plague
Unholy - Wild Mushroom: Plague

Hunter:
Beast Mastery - Dash
Marksmanship - Dash
Survival - Dash

Mage:
Arcane - Healing Touch?
Fire - Healing Touch?
Frost - Healing Touch?

Monk:
Brewmaster - Growl?
Windwalker - Berserk
Mistwalker - Entangling Roots?

Paladin:
Holy - Rebirth
Ret - Tiger's Fury
Prot - Might of Ursoc?

Priest:
Disc - Cyclone?
Holy - Cyclone?
Shadow - Tranquility?

Rogue:
Mut - Barkskin?
Combat - Barkskin?
Sub - Barkskin?

Shaman:
Ele - Solar Beam
Enhance - Solar Beam
Resto - Ghost Wolf

Warlock:
Affliction - Rejuvenation
Demonology - Rejuvenation
Destruction - Rejuvenation

Warrior:
Arms - Enrage
Fury - Enrage
Prot - Frenzied Regeneration

Unassigned: 0

Items not attached to a spec are tied to that class, but are either given to an unknown spec or are viewed as a questionable choice for that spec (in my opinion).

Hopefully in the next day or two people will be able to confirm, deny, and refine this list, and I'll update accordingly. Thoughts!

**Nest** · 2012-03-22, 09:05 AM

Sounds like PvP as a Druid will be interesting in MoP...
It's awesome. ;3

**Xanda** · 2012-03-22, 11:45 AM

Ghost wolf prowl? This will be sick in PVP. GIEF DAT DURID!!!!1111

**Elunedra** · 2012-03-22, 11:55 AM

Frenzy Regen will probely goto warriors are it still requires "rage" so it probely goes to a prot warrior

Also i hope AMS will be the thing guardian druid gets,
instead on Ice Bound Fortitude, besides a druid freezing his blood oO that doesnt sound verry healty

there so many awsome tanking stuff amoog them while many of them will probely not goto guardian druids, like dispersion

**traen** · 2012-03-22, 12:27 PM

Feral - Unholy Frenzy

There is no way that anyone else in raid will get my symbiosis but dk

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