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    Quote Originally Posted by Williee View Post
    haha all worth a try.. if anybdy got resto/feral spec for symbiosis
    sadly im 87 guardian/moonkin, so no luck testing that out
    Respec...?

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    Respeccing doesn't work afaik.

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    Not yet implemented. There's also a bug with transfers that causes you second spec not to reset correctly when copying from live, so many people ended up with one spec already locked.

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    Yup respec wont work until nxt beta patch hopefully. Any spec you have is locked in if u xfer ur toon from live. I was feral/moonkin live and during beta, i was unspec and moonkin.

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    so iv read the balance druid miror images hit for like 150 / cast? then how bad to the spirit wolf for feral hit?

    i do see fun potentional here, spirit wolfs + treants = 5 adds ^.^
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    Spirit wolves are comparable to Mirror Images, or so I hear. In Mists they are intended to be survival cooldowns: MI being a (complicated) threat dump, and Wolves being a stun and person healing CD.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aggixx View Post
    Spirit wolves are comparable to Mirror Images, or so I hear. In Mists they are intended to be survival cooldowns: MI being a (complicated) threat dump, and Wolves being a stun and person healing CD.
    Wolves are just personal healing, because being guardians, they have no abilities right now, except for http://www.wowdb.com/spells/58859-spirit-bite
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elunedra View Post
    so iv read the balance druid miror images hit for like 150 / cast? then how bad to the spirit wolf for feral hit?

    i do see fun potentional here, spirit wolfs + treants = 5 adds ^.^
    Mihir said they're going for about 50/hit currently.
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    I honestly can't wait to get Symbiosis and I really like how Druids gets some love.

    What I have been thinking is, how will this (if at all) affect the choice of your roster. This would probably be more of an issue for 10 man guilds than for 25 man. But being a Bear myself, I feel lucky that we have a DK tank and an Spriest in our roster tbh. If people don't have that, will Symbiosis make people change their roster? I mean, it's kinda like raiding without a Rogue this Tier, you just cripple your raid.

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    fear ward is only usefull for some fights, the tranquility is usefull on every fight but i doubt it be any powerfull as all ability we gain tru simbiosis have been atleast cut in half for thier effectiveness

    as for bone shield, a 10% less damage wont make a notice differnece

    so it depents on the fights i gues but i honestly dont think its worth chance a set up for.
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    With rage generation being limited, I can actually see a use for Life Tap. Use it just before a pull to get 100 rage, get healed back to full and charge in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kujako View Post
    With rage generation being limited, I can actually see a use for Life Tap. Use it just before a pull to get 100 rage, get healed back to full and charge in.
    Read life tap again.

    15 second cooldown.

    It's worthless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunfyre View Post
    Read life tap again.

    15 second cooldown.

    It's worthless.
    And? So while everyone is eating, drinking flasks, casting buffs, you cant use life tap a few times?

    Suite yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kujako View Post
    And? So while everyone is eating, drinking flasks, casting buffs, you cant use life tap a few times?

    Suite yourself.
    Except rage decays as you're out of combat. You're going to lose all of the rage by the next time you can life tap, and you're eating away huge chunks of your HP (20%) every time you do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunfyre View Post
    Except rage decays as you're out of combat. You're going to lose all of the rage by the next time you can life tap, and you're eating away huge chunks of your HP (20%) every time you do it.
    Life Tap, Enrage, Life Tap... tada!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinobar View Post
    Life Tap, Enrage, Life Tap... tada!
    And then you switch your Symbiosis and then promptly pull >.<


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    Except that would kick you out of bear, thereby negating the rage gained.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinobar View Post
    Life Tap, Enrage, Life Tap... tada!
    And then your healers burn mana to heal 40% of your health.

    Making excuses and creative ideas for a poorly crafted ability isn't going to make it any better or more desirable to 99.9% of the tanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunfyre View Post
    And then your healers burn mana to heal 40% of your health.

    Making excuses and creative ideas for a poorly crafted ability isn't going to make it any better or more desirable to 99.9% of the tanks.
    Because it would be impossible to drink up, yeah, ok.

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    Updated Symbiosis Chart for all 3 Monk specs as well as Retribution Paladins.
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