[Megathread] EVE Online

[anveena]

Whelp looks like its time to rmt my 174b

[freezion]

Damn, Pearl Abyss actually took the Jita scam.

[DarkAmbient]

https://www.ccpgames.com/news/2018/b...-makers-of-eve

Welp, Pearl Abyss, Black Desert developers, are buying up CCP >.>

What the fuck? Wow. This is not good.

[breadisfunny]

What the fuck? Wow. This is not good.

why isn't this good?

[Edge-]

why isn't this good?

BDO devs have a questionable history with monetization in the game, and recently implemented a straight P2W system that they'd specifically said they wouldn't implement previously because of the P2W aspect of it.

I've only followed a bit of it, but it's been a frequent battle between the admittedly kinda toxic community (PvP sandboxes seem to attract that crowd) and the developers for a long time now.

I'm not sure if it's "END OF THE WORLD" bad, but even with the bits I know there's some cause for at least mild concern about how CCP is managed moving forward.

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How EVE can be p2w? Go buy all isk from all services for real money and you still will be weak if you do not have skill. You just lost everything as fast as you can buy it.

[Nazrark]

I've spent almost 3 months and I got my Barge from a fresh start (I couldn't remember my old account info). I have a little over 560 million ISK. It'll be a long time before I 'catch up' with others. Even if I decide to start spending real money on PLEX. Just from a skill standpoint.

[MuricaIsDead]

This pretty much, im not a fan of the developers anymore, thier direction or the game, but i do somthing that no one else can do and lots of people rely on me. So untill somthing better comes along i keep chugging along.

Do you run CODE or something?

Oh wait, that's not possible; you hate goons.

[Zeta333]

Do you run CODE or something?

Oh wait, that's not possible; you hate goons.

Yeh cus ganking idiots in things that cant shoot back is so hard to grasp.

[Morswina23]

Is someone is still playing EVE online?
I want to team up with somebody

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Is someone is still playing EVE online?
I want to team up with somebody

AFAIK everyone here unsubscribed.

[sabe]

Decided to check the game after years. Can't even log in.
Well done noob devs, made me feel like i am 20 years younger.
This is so 2000's.

[Proskill]

31m SP, 47m ISK, what could i do?
also important thing is that im alpha, at least until i find something worth paying for in order to stay

what i want to do:

kill other ships
make money from it (more income than investing into pvp)
fly triglavian ships cuz they have cool weapons

[DarkAmbient]

If you want to fly Triglavian ships you'll have to subscribe, but alpha clones can still do most of the activities in the game.

[Heathy]

there are lots of things you can do but most things require some sort of investment in either time or ships.

level 4s
faction warfare
wormhole ( relic hunting, c2 day tripping )
join a nullsec alliance, run anomalies to build up pvp funds.
highsec signature farming/escalation blitzing.

I think the game becomes more worth subscribing to if you're part of a player corp working toward some common goal. I played a bit during the last gurista hunt thing ( made a nice bit of isk from that in the form of gecko bpcs ) but I just can't find the motivation to commit to any particular group. so if I play its just casual, mining and lvl 4s in highsec, the abyssal sites are alright but i think i'd rather farm escalations for ded space stuff.

faction warfare can be cheap if you don't mind flying hull tanked tristans and losing most of them, I did a bit of amarr fw and well we were the underdogs, so we always lost pretty much, but some days I could solo cap sites and make a decent bit of LP, its not great though, the best isk ofc comes from being able to bear all day in nullsec anomlies and running 6/10s and 8/10s. do this for a week or so and you can whelp ships for a month. I dunno what I'd do with 47m, scanning might be the best way to make isk with minimal risk so you can turn that 47 into a couple 100, then do level 4s until you have 1b. solo the options are limited without some significant risk.

I used to make isk in nullsec by farming faction spawns in the belts, before I could run havens and sanctums myself. kinda helps though if you're in an alliance that lives in that space so you can, bounce belts without the locals chasing you around. making quick isk still requires an element of luck. most of the time it require patience and repetition.

to get into emerging conduits I think a praxis that can run them costs around 250-300m.

[DarkAmbient]

I've decided to give EVE another try. I've not been able to get into it the previous few times I tried, mostly because it was just far too overwhelming starting out. But given that there's a F2P option now and I've heard the starting experience should be better I'd really like to get into this game.

So, that said, is there anything anyone would recommend knowing/doing for the first day? First week? I don't really know what I want to do in the game yet so I'm just looking for some basic ideas of what could get the ball rolling. Thanks!

1) Remember that EVE is a pvp game. Pvp can and will happen anywhere, even in 'safer' space. So don't get mad when pvp happens, just give a "gf" (good fight) in local chat, maybe talk to your nemesis and ask what you could have done better. Showing that attitude brings rewards in EVE.

2) Do the tutorial and then go on to complete all the missions offered by the Career Agents. This will give you some decent rewards while teaching you about the game and maybe help you decide what you'd like to do more of.

3) Pve is the main way to earn ISK. You can do missions, mine ore/gas and sell it, sell loot you found while exploring, flip on the market, build stuff and sell it, and more. Missions are a good way to earn standings (rep) with different NPC corporations and factions, and that will open up access to various rewards. You can earn money in pvp too by blowing up people's ships and looting them, but of course it's much more risky. Pvpers generally do pve to fund their piracy. Read about missions here.

4) Player corporations are the lifeblood of EVE. When you first play you're automatically assigned to an NPC corporation with other players but you can leave it and join a player-made corporation instead. You don't have to, lots of people stay in the NPC corps (safety is one reason - NPC corps can't have war declared on them by player corps), but if you want the real EVE MMO experience you'll want to join a player corp. Research the larger newbie friendly corps, they're generally a safer bet than smaller corps if you're a first timer.

5) Beware of scammers. Scamming players is allowed in EVE. Only a small number of serious violations are banned. If you complain to a GM that you're a scam victim they'll have a good chuckle and then politely tell you to be more careful next time. Just remember that if someone is posting a deal in local chat it's 99.9999% a scam. Read this.

6) Skill training. There are a massive amount of skills that your character can train. You can only train one at a time, but your skill queue can contain lots of skills. Some corps will want a minimum amount of character SP (skill points) before you can join them, this helps to weed out tourists. Just remember that there are core skills that tend to be useful no matter what your preferred activity is, so try to train some of those first to give you a solid base from which to branch out and specialise. The tutorial will help with this but you'll want to do a search for newbie skill plans.

7) The learning curve is brutal. Be patient, utilise the help channels, corp chat and third party resources.

8) Good luck.

[Zeta333]

I've decided to give EVE another try. I've not been able to get into it the previous few times I tried, mostly because it was just far too overwhelming starting out. But given that there's a F2P option now and I've heard the starting experience should be better I'd really like to get into this game.

So, that said, is there anything anyone would recommend knowing/doing for the first day? First week? I don't really know what I want to do in the game yet so I'm just looking for some basic ideas of what could get the ball rolling. Thanks!

Dont, this game is in a garbage position. Bad choice after bad choice fucking over the players. Find an mmo where the devs give a shit cus this isnt the one anymore.

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Thanks for the great response, that's quite a lot of very useful info! I didn't have much time for more than logging in and getting to the first base, but I was really impressed with the graphics and the stellar music, it really put me in the right mood for it.

Then you realize you need a month of training to do anything basic, you need 2-5 accounts to make serious isk.

[Daffan]

Dont, this game is in a garbage position. Bad choice after bad choice fucking over the players. Find an mmo where the devs give a shit cus this isnt the one anymore.

The only problem is that nearly none do

Where to go??? EVE makes plex better than 90% of activities, so gimped. Go to Albion??? Gold > Silver is better than 90% of activities again... it's all a sham everywhere these days.

[DarkAmbient]

Then you realize you need a month of training to do anything basic

Not true at all, there's plenty you can do right out of the gate. Sure you can't do it optimally but you wouldn't expect to on day one.

[Zeta333]

The only problem is that nearly none do

Where to go??? EVE makes plex better than 90% of activities, so gimped. Go to Albion??? Gold > Silver is better than 90% of activities again... it's all a sham everywhere these days.

FF , elderscrolls. Varius other games till the blockbusters of the last quarter of this year. Amazons new mmo is getting alot of good reviews.

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Not true at all, there's plenty you can do right out of the gate. Sure you can't do it optimally but you wouldn't expect to on day one.

Please, any of us that have played this game for a year or more know what absolute fuck all you can do with under 3-5 months of training. Fuck it takes what 2-3 for a cyno alt these days as it is lol. Compare that to what you can accomplish and enjoy in other games. In other mmos you can level up by grinding. In eve it takes time before you can even start to grind.

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Yeah, I don't expect to be a god of all creation immediately, I enjoy the build-up phase of a game as I slowly get better and better. Actually, the fact that there's so much I can achieve over a very long time is a plus, in my eyes, for the game.

He also mentioned "bad choices fucking over the players" without spelling out what those are. I'd be interested to know, but all I really care about is if I have fun in the game or not. I'm not hyper-obsessed with all the minutae of any game, preferring instead to putter around and do what's enjoyable to me. That's how I approach all the MMOs I play and, consequently, I have fun in them all. If it's a "real money" thing, that doesn't bother me neither. Games gotta make money somehow and I've found I much prefer the F2P with MTX method over subscriptions. In STO I've invested exactly as much money as I feel like I ever want to and I'll be able to play the game until it's shutdown in the way I want to play it. Same with SWTOR, I only sub when I need access to my credits, which is rare, because I've set up my account exactly the way I want it.

I could make a massive multi page list of shit they have dont wrong or fucked up but most of it you wouldnt know or it wouldnt effect you untill youv given a year or more of your time and sub money. But to name a few

Ignored clear warning of impending economic instability due to rebalance of a major mining ship. Let it go on so long there was a beyond monumental surplus of ships and minerals in the game to the point that the highest tier of ship being feed was trivial. Then proceeded to nuke resource allocation, its availability, and how much is needed to build things instead of the one ship that led to the economy to be in the shit place it was.

THey continue to add new ships and things no one asked for and ignore foundation level professions, ships and other aspects of the game and dont touch or ballance them for years on end. PI has been updated what? once or twice since release? And its the foundation for structures and half the building in the game, yet is pretty aids to harvest and manage.

THe list goes on and on.

The art is on point, the upper management is not even remotely. I had 50ish accounts, played for almost 10 years, and was in the top % of the game. Almost no one i played with is left, the game is a ghost town and most have left due to how the devs handle it.