Mafia Game discussion thread

[Firebert]

/in for Mafia if there's space.

[Remilia]

I'll go as maybe at the moment.

[Nive]

Thank you Worgenite. And hey everyone else. I've played the scum games with friends before, but this is the first time I'll be playing here. Should be fun!

[Loaf]

Np Nive ^_^ And Remi, I have you in reserves should Wass drop out before the game starts, hes waffling. If he plays though, I'll put you first on the next game's signup ^_^

Also, everyone: We're thinking of having a basic setup with 24 people. 18 town vs. 6 scum. The town will have one cop, one jailor, and possibly a doctor. The scum will be a full mafia team. HOWEVER, we're also thinking of throwing in either a vigi to the town or a single sk. What does everyone think of a possible vigi or sk?

[Firebert]

Have a Serial Killer. It ups the night kill count (and hence reduces the length of the game) but doesn't imbalance the teams.

Have all three Town Power Roles. Potentially consider dropping the Mafia count to 5 and maybe adding a Godfather (2of4 has 2 mafia against 7 townies which is about 28.5% scum, 6 mafia against 17 town is about 35%, 5 mafia against 18 town is about 27.7%, the Godfather bumps the scum power by a bit).

[Deleted]

Np Nive ^_^ And Remi, I have you in reserves should Wass drop out before the game starts, hes waffling. If he plays though, I'll put you first on the next game's signup ^_^

Also, everyone: We're thinking of having a basic setup with 24 people. 18 town vs. 6 scum. The town will have one cop, one jailor, and possibly a doctor. The scum will be a full mafia team. HOWEVER, we're also thinking of throwing in either a vigi to the town or a single sk. What does everyone think of a possible vigi or sk?

Well i personally find the Vigilante role to be sorta tasteless since it makes it possible for a single fooled townie to make the whole game collapse with their naive nightkills and solo-actions but I won't be performing a /ragequit action if we do have have one. If we include the SK then I'd prefer the setup to be 18 town vs 5 scum vs the SK

Also, has the PM matter been settled? Allowed or not?

[Firebert]

Silkku: Hivemind

[Loaf]

Well i personally find the Vigilante role to be sorta tasteless since it makes it possible for a single fooled townie to make the whole game collapse with their naive nightkills and solo-actions but I won't be performing a /ragequit action if we do have have one. If we include the SK then I'd prefer the setup to be 18 town vs 5 scum vs the SK

Also, has the PM matter been settled? Allowed or not?

18 vs. 5 vs. 1 would be how it would be if we have the sk. Arlee is actually thinking of having both an sk and a vigi but idk if shes going to stick with that.

PMs are allowed.

[Firebert]

I'd be against a Vigilante.

[Lellybaby]

I'd be against a Vigilante.

We unfortunately didn't really get to see how useful a vigilante could be for either the town or scum as Lysah guessed correctly and mafia NK Elyaan night one and all she got to do was kill Kumduh.

From a scum perspective I know that the viligante was more important to die for me than an SK at the start.

I'm just curious as to why peeps only want one SK? I thought the uniqueness of SK's was that it pretty much took a town lynch or to finally kill off the lookout to get them both. If only one aren't they just a lone mafia that kills differently?

[Remilia]

Np Nive ^_^ And Remi, I have you in reserves should Wass drop out before the game starts, hes waffling. If he plays though, I'll put you first on the next game's signup ^_^

Oookays. Thankies.

[Loaf]

Oookays. Thankies.

I should have edited that lol, Wass has decided he won't play this game so you're in!

[Remilia]

I should have edited that lol, Wass has decided he won't play this game so you're in!

Oh, okays. I shall die the 1st day! :P

[Firebert]

From a scum perspective I know that the viligante was more important to die for me than an SK at the start.

I'm just curious as to why peeps only want one SK? I thought the uniqueness of SK's was that it pretty much took a town lynch or to finally kill off the lookout to get them both. If only one aren't they just a lone mafia that kills differently?

No, because the Mafia usually come to a consensus about who to kill and who does the killing, whereas a single SK will just kill people to frame them (or otherwise).

Having a Vigilante basically puts the entire game on their shoulders: if they keep missing and hit Townies they make the game very easy for the Scum, and vice versa. They exaggerate the tiny imbalances in the game.

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What I mean is, the Mafia have a consensus vote, whereas the SK is a more personal strategic night kill.

[Arlee]

Still debating if there will be 1 vigilante and 1 sk... I sort of would like both, but I can see the arguments for no SK as well.

[Firebert]

Why Vigilante over SK, Arlee?

[Wass]

Sorry btw. Im not playing next round for a bunch of reasons. Ill still be following the thread though.

[Arlee]

Why Vigilante over SK, Arlee?

Didn't you say that the Vigilante would be better to have since it's actually trying to play for a team and doesn't want to kill townies and as such will tend to be more careful, whereas the sk doesn't really care who they kill?

[FoxxiMcLeod]

No Arlee, that was me =)

[Firebert]

Didn't you say that the Vigilante would be better to have since it's actually trying to play for a team and doesn't want to kill townies and as such will tend to be more careful, whereas the sk doesn't really care who they kill?

Yeah, but the Vigilante exacerbates imbalnces in the power of each side, whereas the Serial Killer (as a third party) doesn't do this as much.

I just don't want to see the Vigilante Night Killing lots of Vanilla Townies and then being blamed for the loss.

And the Serial Killer does care who they kill. They just work alone as opposed to the Mafia, who work as a group.