Zandalari Island Preview, Misc Beta Changes, Cloud Serpent Questing Area, Blue Posts

[woodydave44]

Finally, after 8 years....they are adding the island back in.

[AbalDarkwind]

Calling it now: the big, Mogu building with the portal is really a Titan complex that holds the Old God of Pandaria.

[istrain]

No more HGWT? Now I can go back to being one of the only people who goes to the raid instance in advance and helps summon the lazy people. I'm not sure how that encourages people to go out in the world more but ok.

[Isharii]

I dont feel as iff the Flight Point speed increase is anywhere close enough to a replacement. Most of the time a 280/310 flying mount in a straight line is going to be faster anyway. All this does is help you level I guess?

[littlewisp]

The guild perk changes are pretty disappointing. I've posted on the beta forums about how they don't need to be changed, but I guess myself and others just weren't convincing enough. Definitely won't be feeling the urge to get the guild to max level this time around! I do hope they lessen the amount of herbs needed for flasks. For my ten man I'm the one who farms -- our server is small, and you can't guarantee there will be herbs or fish on the AH at any time, so we have to farm our mats. There's a lot I want to do outside of WoW these days, and so I was hoping the time spent farming might decrease, not increase (as is unless they up how long flasks last I'd have to farm double just to make sure we have enough for the raid nights).

[Shaede]

the removal of have group will travel is going to suck. Getting people to come help out with the ring of blood, and amphitheater is going to be just dreadful now as usually you are the only person in the zone. I feel people were more inclined to come because they knew they could just get summon, do the deal, and hearth out. Also, summoning people to help out or kill rares is just going to go back to the painful, waste of time it used to be. I feel like some people int his thread are trying to say that being on a flight master route somehow makes the game feel bigger? You still have 1 destination, and flying from path to path, hopping on boat to switch continent, hopping on another long, drawn out flight path again just makes the world seem slow, boring and if you have to go too far then somewhat discouraging. Back when you couldn't fly and I had to get somewhere really far, either for a holiday achievement or what have you, I was more inclined to just call it a wrap, then to waste an hour of my life getting to a different section of the game.

On a side note...how the hell did Have Group Will Travel become such a big problem?

[davep]

so...blizz wants us to waste more time, shocking, truly shocking

What an ignorant statement. You are playing an MMO, it's full of time wasters.

---------- Post added 2012-04-24 at 12:29 PM ----------

Wait what, removing mass summon?!? That's one of the few good things blizzard have done lately!

They removed Mass Summon because it kept people from actually exploring the world and moving around. I literally hop on at raid time and wait for a summon to the instance, now I actually have to do the work myself.

[Glub]

I bet that they will replace Have Group Will Travel with something similar, such as placing that mechaninc in the summoning stones, for example. If not, they will eventually put it back in the game after a while, when they think people is fed up of "seeing the world" (*if* that was the motivation to remove it, in the first place, which I doubt)...

[Rito]

Wow, that Save the Children Charity Marathon graphic is awesome! Love the contrast.

[Dispirit]

the art and landscapes in MoP are sooo beautiful. Right now it's the only reason I'm considering buying the expansion. Pandaren are "eh" and the monk class just isn't nearly as exciting to me as the monk in D3 is.

[haiimjoe]

no more chug a lug or happy hour.... WHAT THE FUCK BLIZZ

[kazso]

Starting the Marathon just 1 hour before Guild Wars 2 beta starts? What a coincidence

[aggression]

I want a new beta-patch. I'm so bored atm. No D3-beta and nothing fun on live WoW....gief me something! ABSTINENS!

[Mazzic518]

The removal of chug a lug made mr glad I did not get the annual pass. I spend enough time grinding as it is today. But as we don't know what cauldrons Will be like it might be too early to say I will quit. They might have remodeled them to what they are today with the perks. But I still think it is à cheap way to make us spend more time in game (on rly boring stuff).

For me it is way up there with 1-60 revamp on stupid things Blizzard have done

Really? Wow? The 1-60 revamp was AWESOME and much needed not only for new players but people like me that love alts.

[aggression]

Starting the Marathon just 1 hour before Guild Wars 2 beta starts? What a coincidence

Doubt it will have more than maybe 20.000 (top) viewers anyhow. Not sure it will affect GW2 beta at all.
Who wanna spend hours of watching someone (two competitors) level up a monk from 1-87? Only intresting part is 1-15 (or whenever you decide faction). 15-85 is known to everyone.

1-till faction changing and then premade 85 monk till 87 would be more intresting.

[Zieda]

I'm hoping we can get more than just one cloud serpent. I WANT THEM ALL.

[Prokne]

On a side note...how the hell did Have Group Will Travel become such a big problem?

My opinion is that they removed HGWT because of the world bosses. They dont want one guys alt camping the spawn and then summoning the entire 40 man group to the fight, they want all 40 to camp and maybe fight with the other faction.

I dont think its too much to ask to have a HGWT that just summons your group. It would allow people to still get help with quests and summon to dungeons without a hassle. Even if you chain summoned it would take a while and be pretty cumbersome. The other option would be just to not allow you to use it within 1000yd or whatever of the area the boss spawns at.

---------- Post added 2012-04-24 at 07:22 PM ----------

They removed Mass Summon because it kept people from actually exploring the world and moving around. I literally hop on at raid time and wait for a summon to the instance, now I actually have to do the work myself.

No now you can hop on a few minutes before the raid and wait for 2 people to go summon or 2 people and a lock. The only difference is how long it takes to summon the raid.

[Kootabang]

For everyone complaining about removing Have Group Will Travel..

MMOs are more than logging in --> asking for a summon --> Raiding --> Hearthing//Logging off.

I realize everyone has limited time to play the game, but this is an MMO. (MASSIVELY Multiplayer online) Stop being selfish. WoW's playerbase was spoiled from HGWT. As a raider myself, it was handy. Especially for times when I couldn't log in until ~5minutes prior to the start of a raid. But in the end, it's a change for the good.

[Deleted]

The island looks great so far. I also can't wait to get my first cloud serpent.

[eschatological]

Everytime I hear people say "an MMO is more than just logging on to raid", I rage, because whenever I suggest there's more to the game than collecting vanity pets, people scream at me "for not letting [me] play like I want to play."

Once again, Blizz is screwing over raiders (not only with removal of HGWT but with removal of Chug-a-lug) to appease casual players, because they know raiders will just shrug and take on the extra responsibility and the casuals will whine if they see a perceived benefit they're not getting because they can't be a productive member of a guild. It's not even like you have to belong to a serious, or even hardcore guild, after all, guild levels are much easier to get in large, anonymous social guilds.

It's to the point now that my 2nd 90 that I'll be levelling in that first week will be my druid, just so I can farm for our first raid. A 4 hour raid, 3 times a week, removal of mixology, means we're going to need 12 cauldrons a week, and then extras for subs.