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    Anyone planning on rolling an Elf, be wary. I plan on griefing the hell out of you in Cyrodiil, for being an Elf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balte View Post
    Anyone planning on rolling an Elf, be wary. I plan on griefing the hell out of you in Cyrodiil, for being an Elf.
    Any particular reason?

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    Looking forward to some... footage. So far the movies look good, but the gameplay videos seam... old... clunky... etc. Somehow not right for what I expect in 2014.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razael View Post
    Any particular reason?
    He said for being an Elf, as if he needs any other reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balte View Post
    Anyone planning on rolling an Elf, be wary. I plan on griefing the hell out of you in Cyrodiil, for being an Elf.
    Being Dunmer masterrace, id like to see you try !

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    Quote Originally Posted by corebit View Post
    A paywall is something that prevents your character from progressing any further unless you spend money. A CE-exclusive race is not a paywall.
    Still pretty shady a -race- is walled by a more expensive version of the game. It's like the SL souls for Rift, but in this case it's just a race, which is quite silly tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razael View Post
    Any particular reason?
    Because Elves suck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nirawen View Post
    Because Elves suck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hayro1 View Post
    Still pretty shady a -race- is walled by a more expensive version of the game. It's like the SL souls for Rift, but in this case it's just a race, which is quite silly tbh.
    the SL souls are only like that because they are from an expansion, so your paying for the expansion souls

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caesonia View Post
    the SL souls are only like that because they are from an expansion, so your paying for the expansion souls
    I know exactly why they're like that, you're missing the point entirely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hayro1 View Post
    I know exactly why they're like that, you're missing the point entirely.
    well then enlighten me, souls tied to what was once an expansion is really not comparable to a locked race on launch to. i agree with your point but the comparison really doesnt work

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caesonia View Post
    well then enlighten me, souls tied to what was once an expansion is really not comparable to a locked race on launch to. i agree with your point but the comparison really doesnt work
    Yes it does. Doesn't really matter if it's an expansion or brand new game, holding a race to a more expensive version of the game makes zero sense. I brought up Rift and SL souls because it's similar, it was not meant to mean a direct link between the two. It's called an analogy for a reason. In Rift's case it does make sense, because those are SPECS, not a damn race. Let's say they make a new WoW race called....I have no clue, Wodarian (just a name with WoD in the name lol) and made it exclusive to the digital deluxe/CE only, that would be beyond ridiculous.

  13. #10013
    For those complaining about the Imperial race exclusivity, consider what you already get with the basic game, without even pre-ordering:

    • Any race can be any class, that's more than you can say for WoW
    • Any character can benefit from using any weapon or armor type, again more than you can say for WoW
    • Any class can perform any role, yet again much more than you can say for WoW

    So with all of the restrictions we're accustomed to in WoW being non-existent in ESO, there needs to be some kind of exclusivity in place to keep things interesting. I'll also point out that racial traits in ESO aren't even as drastic as racials in WoW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lycanthat View Post
    For those complaining about the Imperial race exclusivity, consider what you already get with the basic game, without even pre-ordering:

    • Any race can be any class, that's more than you can say for WoW
    • Any character can benefit from using any weapon or armor type, again more than you can say for WoW
    • Any class can perform any role, yet again much more than you can say for WoW

    So with all of the restrictions we're accustomed to in WoW being non-existent in ESO, there needs to be some kind of exclusivity in place to keep things interesting. I'll also point out that racial traits in ESO aren't even as drastic as racials in WoW.
    No just No. There is already other things that is exclusive to the Imperial edition.

    A race should not be tied behind a higher cost of the game in ANY mmo. The only time its ok to put a Race behind a paywall is if its a f2p MMO or its a Xpac.

    Also lets not compare it to wow. ESO and WoW are two different games ran by two different companys and even WoW has not tied a race to a paywall like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lycanthat View Post
    For those complaining about the Imperial race exclusivity, consider what you already get with the basic game, without even pre-ordering:

    • Any race can be any class, that's more than you can say for WoW
    • Any character can benefit from using any weapon or armor type, again more than you can say for WoW
    • Any class can perform any role, yet again much more than you can say for WoW

    So with all of the restrictions we're accustomed to in WoW being non-existent in ESO, there needs to be some kind of exclusivity in place to keep things interesting. I'll also point out that racial traits in ESO aren't even as drastic as racials in WoW.
    I still think saying you have to pay twenty extra bucks to play a race is stupid. Having a different design philosophy with your classes and roles doesn't change that. The ability to preorder and play any race on any faction is also BS to me. I don't care about the exclusive horse or armor, but exclusive RACES? That's a bit much. Even WoW hasn't gone beyond mounts, pets and silly helmets with their preorder bonuses and in game store.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lycanthat View Post
    For those complaining about the Imperial race exclusivity, consider what you already get with the basic game, without even pre-ordering:

    • Any race can be any class, that's more than you can say for WoW
    • Any character can benefit from using any weapon or armor type, again more than you can say for WoW
    • Any class can perform any role, yet again much more than you can say for WoW

    So with all of the restrictions we're accustomed to in WoW being non-existent in ESO, there needs to be some kind of exclusivity in place to keep things interesting. I'll also point out that racial traits in ESO aren't even as drastic as racials in WoW.
    No, there really shouldn't be any exclusivity when you pay for a game and forced to pay for it monthly. That's just trying to justify their idiotic decisions. I'm okay with pets and mounts for CE, but wtf - a whole race? That's gameplay they're cutting out. Potential story diversion, different racials etc. There's no way you can justify doing that, especially with the payment method they chose.

    What they're trying to do is basically milk out as much money as possible before turning the game f2p. Cant blame them really, but it still sucks.

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    Hiding a race behind a special edition is not exactly honest business. Especially when it's so expensive.
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    How can this still be NDA? Impressed by cinematics but gameplay hasn't convinced me at all.
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    may i suggest you check out wowwiki or any similar site, it's Grom that orders the murder of Cairne

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    IMO they should just make Imperials a neutral race, that way a core TES race isn't made un playable and without having to pay for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hayro1 View Post
    Yes it does. Doesn't really matter if it's an expansion or brand new game, holding a race to a more expensive version of the game makes zero sense. I brought up Rift and SL souls because it's similar, it was not meant to mean a direct link between the two. It's called an analogy for a reason. In Rift's case it does make sense, because those are SPECS, not a damn race. Let's say they make a new WoW race called....I have no clue, Wodarian (just a name with WoD in the name lol) and made it exclusive to the digital deluxe/CE only, that would be beyond ridiculous.
    the *specs* in rift are more akin to classes in other games but like i said i saw your point was simply pointing that out, no need to derail further though.

    I do agree a race locked to CE is a very poor choice, they would of been better off picking some other sort of vanity item like a title or some such or simply the other stuff in the CE

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