If new players on my server will ask some basic question in /2, they will get trolled and laughed at. When I see this happens, trying to help in whisper.
If new players on my server will ask some basic question in /2, they will get trolled and laughed at. When I see this happens, trying to help in whisper.
This actually reminds me of a newer player back in Ulduar...granted they are far from just another player now...anyway they had only been playing the game 2 months or so and I noticed one night they werent using their Glory of the Ulduar raider mount and asked why....the response was "Well I gave someone who helped me learn as I leveled 3k to help them get their epic flying" I never throught I would have an awesome mount, and I am trying to make the gold...well I immediately opened trade and put the 6k or whatever it was in there for a few reasons, first being we never would have finished the glory as quickly as we did without them, second I just honestly felt bad they helped someone else and it snake bit them. They closed trade 3 times....I finally whispered look, we wont pull until you take it(being the Main tank, I had that power lol) and they took it. After raid I proceeded to watch them fly around dalaran, and show it off(I think we were the 3rd guild on the server to get the 10 man glory, long before anyone got 25)for a good 2-3 hours. Was well worth it at that moment in time, even moreso now.
I do it if I know someone is struggling with something and they're reasonably new to the game, I've been kicked from a lot heroics for defending people that are new and the elitist assholes are trolling them calling them nooby and stupid. Suspended once too because an argument got out of hand lol.
I was the person who ran around casting Fort on my own faction...and Mcing the opposite faction just to give them fort.
To this day I'll pass or give out dungeon blues if someone else Needed it and I'm on an alt.
I will admit though, these days I'm less inclined to politely whisper an int geared warrior and politely point out what they're doing wrong so much as I am liable to yell at them or drop group. I'm still nice if they're new or a cool person to group with otherwise, but my patience for flat out bad playing has worn thin.
If someone asks me nicely I will always help them, whether it's gold or help with a quest or finding something, whatever. I have a large active social guild and mostly it's guildies but I've given gold to people who whispered nicely before. What I don't do is "boost" people who ask randomly as I don't see that as particularly helpful, just them being lazy. But if it's a quest they can't figure out, need a portal, need help actually running a dungeon (like gearing up in normals/regular heroics at 85) then I'm happy to help. I will always help people who ask for advice, I do get people whispering me sometimes asking for spec/rotation help or tactics on raiding.
I will actually give anyone gold who asks politely. Like "Can you spare 50g so I can buy this item on the AH please?" or whatever, as long as they give me a whole sentence, a reason and the word please, as opposed to strange level 1s that follow you around orgrimmar saying gold, gold, gold and opening trade boxes. General rudeness at all I won't tolerate and will just put people on ignore.
I once gave a newbie 1000g because he was dancing naked in orgrimmar asking passersby if they could spare any change to buy some clothes... mind you it wasn't repaid that well since he spent about 3 months sending me whispers telling me about his new levels and his new gear and so on :P
When i am taking the deeprun tram and there is a low level character on it, I always ride with them, inspect them for boas and other signs of whether its a new player or not, and then if I determine they are a new player I give them some gold. They are always really excited to get the gold and some have added me as friends so I can help with blacksmithing, jewelcrafting etc if they need. I like helping out newer players. When running low level dungeons on alts I also try to help people out. If more people were willing to help others out, our community wouldn't be so dickish.
From time to time. But recently (over the last 10 to 12 month) I've encountered more morons with a fucked up attitude towards morality than ever b4. Helping others can end up in profanity attacks towards your mother in its best. As soon as I get one of those replies aka "Go tell this your mom when shes coming home from my JizzShower" etc. just end up in a report and no help for roughly a month
Though I dont have that much actions outside of my guild stuff.
I try to help as much as I can if I know they are legitimately new.
The problem I have is that finding out if a person is new to the game is hard especially as new people will be quite shy initially.
A good place to help is giving advice in a levelling guild chat of which I enjoy helping people out in.
If someone displays a genuine desire to learn, sure, I'll help. I'm not one of those twits in trade chat who gives stupid answers to real questions.
If they're just bad and don't say anything or don't seem to care, I'll just not say anything at all to them. No skin off my nose.
I suppose it depends on how you define "out of your way", but I don't think I fit the definition.
That is very true. I think I met 2 new players the last 2 years I played.
On topic, I rarely go out of my way to help strangers. I will be nice and help them somewhat, but I don't often have the patience to be a persnal babysitter. I allow them to add me as friend and contact me whenever, but if I am to devote a lot of time to them in one go I really need to be in a very special mood. One thing I find a bit uncomfortable, is people looking up to you as if you are a god, and expect you to give them all the answers as to how they should gear, gem and your personal opinion on class changes. There is luckily not many of them, but I don't like coming across as arrogant either. I still die a little inside whenever a player like that approaches me, but luckily that doesn't seem to happen unless you've got the correct guild tag. Which I haven't for a couple of years.
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Reading this makes me look like a douche. That's really not how I intended it to be . I help people as much as I feel I have the time for, but I found it highly uncomfortable being whispered by lower progressed players about class advice and my personal opinion about class changes. I felt like any other player, just figuring my way around and being in a decent guild, and when treated as if I was somebody awesome that didn't quite add up with my own idea of who I was as a player. I really wish I carried the same confidence, because that seems to be what it comes down to.
Is a substantial difference between genuine questions, genuine difficulty and straight up begging.
Questions or assistance within reasonable limits I find fine, but begging for gold is something else entirely and a right turn-off.
As long as you aren't stupid you should earn enough during your levelling for your own needs.
No need to buy any gear upgrades, and nor any need to buy your way through professions.
Well i dont get much new players asking me for help but if someone needs help on how to do something or they need help finding where to go im happy to help. But if the player begs for gold or wants me to run him through dungeons just so he can level up then no that person is on his/her own. Just last night someone needed help in Silvermoon. He need to know how to get to Undercity from there and i showed him, was no big deal, was happy to help.
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I certainly won't be the one raising the offer since people hardly ever appreciate it when you come out of nowhere trying to tell them they're doing something wrong. One usually gets pissed right away in such a situation, end of story.
However I almost never refuse to help someone when they ask. That's a different kind of situation since you can be sure these people really do want some help and are ready to listen and understand, and hell why would anyone not want help in this case? Big exceptions might be really silly questions where you can't be sure if it's a trolling attempt or just groundbreaking bad humor, or when they ask something I think they are better off figuring out themselves.
Last edited by The Kao; 2012-05-04 at 05:35 PM.
It really depends on how they go about seeking help. If someone is genuinely confused, or doesn't know how to do something. I'm more than willing to help, if they're an asshole about it and they keep spamming or begging, like say some stupid level 8 orc runs up to you in Orgrimmar, opens trade with you, without so much as a word, and then goes "GOLD PLS" a million times. No one is going to want to help this guy.
If I see its a new player (without heirlooms) and they got a good reason to "beg" gold, I usually give them up to 50g, I just like the feeling to help newbies. If theres a guy spamming /s with "GIF 300g NEED MOUNT!!!11!" I dont ever give them. Takes like 20 min to get 300g, cmon man!
If the person I encountered is willing to learn, and speaks English/ my language well enough, yes I help them. Otherwise, no.
If somebody takes his/her time to write politely I will do whatever I can to help them out with their problem as long as it´s not about giving them riding skill etc