Swordguard Embroidery VS 100 Str

[Golden Carp]

Swordguard Embroidery or 100 Str from Blacksmithing which one is better than another one for Retribution paladin?

Thank you.

[Deleted]

Blacksmithing is best profesion ingame atm because it gives more stats than any other prof.

[zyx]

Blacksmithing is best profesion ingame atm because it gives more stats than any other prof.

As far as I know, every profession gives the same amount of bonus stats (80) to any primary stat.
Unless blacksmithing gives something else than the 2 sockets? Although if you use epic gems, I suppose you do get more than the others.

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As far as I know, every profession gives the same amount of bonus stats (80) to any primary stat.
Unless blacksmithing gives something else than the 2 sockets?

Epic gems are 50 strength.

[TEHPALLYTANK]

Dunno about BS versus Tailoring for int users, but for str and agil BS is certainly much better.

[Golden Carp]

1000 AP for 15sec = How much STR?

[ThrashMetalFtw]

BS and Tailoring are the 2 best professions for any dps.

Dunno about BS versus Tailoring for int users, but for str and agil BS is certainly much better.

Tailoring is better for Int users. For Agi and Str, BS is certainly not much better. BS is better, but they are very close

[Deleted]

BS and Tailoring are the 2 best professions for any dps.



Tailoring is better for Int users. For Agi and Str, BS is certainly not much better. BS is better, but they are very close

'cept it's engi and tailoring for int users and engi bs for str and agi users because the engi is a use effect that as soon as there is ever downtime on a boss will be more the the other proffesions and that you can stack it with other CDs to increase its power compared to the other proffesions

[Aceshigh]

'cept it's engi and tailoring for int users and engi bs for str and agi users because the engi is a use effect that as soon as there is ever downtime on a boss will be more the the other proffesions and that you can stack it with other CDs to increase its power compared to the other proffesions

It goes on mini CD with on use trinkets, so on fights where you wanna have major burn phases you can't use synapse springs with say wings/zealotry. That being said there are only a couple instances where we go for on use trinkets in DS so it's actually not a huge deal but it's something to consider overall.

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It goes on mini CD with on use trinkets, so on fights where you wanna have major burn phases you can't use synapse springs with say wings/zealotry. That being said there are only a couple instances where we go for on use trinkets in DS so it's actually not a huge deal but it's something to consider overall.

It's not a deal at all.
Fights where you need to use on use trinkets with cds, you can just save Synapse Springs for when the stars allign and you get some lucky procs.

[Aceshigh]

It's not a deal at all.

We'll have to agree to disagree here I guess.

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It goes on mini CD with on use trinkets, so on fights where you wanna have major burn phases you can't use synapse springs with say wings/zealotry. That being said there are only a couple instances where we go for on use trinkets in DS so it's actually not a huge deal but it's something to consider overall.

If you talk about spine, I would argue that synapse springs is better because agi/str/int > attack power/spell power, and other trinkets usually have passive str/agi/int.

[Aceshigh]

If you talk about spine, I would argue that synapse springs is better because agi/str/int > attack power/spell power, and other trinkets usually have passive str/agi/int.

I wasn't talking just about spine, but I don't think you can compare the 2200 str you get from rotting skull to the ~450ish (not sure on the actual number) you get from the springs + 458/517 you'll get from another trinket, in terms of tendon burst. If tendon burst is not an issue (my guild gets it to sub 30% on a regular basis now) it is a different story. My point was simply that it is another thing to micro manage and should be factored into your decision if you're taking the time to look at it in detail.

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I wasn't talking just about spine, but I don't think you can compare the 2200 str you get from rotting skull to the ~450ish (not sure on the actual number) you get from the springs + 458/517 you'll get from another trinket, in terms of tendon burst. If tendon burst is not an issue (my guild gets it to sub 30% on a regular basis now) it is a different story. My point was simply that it is another thing to micro manage and should be factored into your decision if you're taking the time to look at it in detail.

Sorry, I've been playing mostly my priest so wasn't aware about the non-SP trinkets actually gave str and agi, so my bad

[Requital]

MoP has the equivalent of Saronite bombs again, They don't reset the swing timer and they are off the GCD unless they change it Engineering could make a come back. However the gloves enchant on MoP right now for engineering has a length cast time which is just dumb and makes them completely useless.

[Sett]

Casting time on the engineering gloves? Ick.


It is hard to turn down blacksmithing. Pain to level, no cool items really ( unless you got past, deleted recipes ) but we sure have a passive thing that's lasted quiet nicely from WotLK and beyond.

[Rivin]

However the gloves enchant on MoP right now for engineering has a length cast time which is just dumb and makes them completely useless.

There's no cast time on the Synapse Springs. You're probably looking at the spell to enchant the gloves, which has a 5-second cast, not the effect of the enchant itself.

[Requital]

There's no cast time on the Synapse Springs. You're probably looking at the spell to enchant the gloves, which has a 5-second cast, not the effect of the enchant itself.

No last week when I was on beta I tested it and there was a cast time I'm not talking about applying the enchant. I chalked it up to a bug and reported it until it gets notes that the change is being made.

[Rivin]

No last week when I was on beta I tested it and there was a cast time I'm not talking about applying the enchant. I chalked it up to a bug and reported it until it gets notes that the change is being made.

That's pretty strange, since I just checked rank 1 in beta and it doesn't have a cast time, and the spell effect for rank 2 is exactly the same.