USA Supreme Court decision on Arizona

[KDSwain]

You know this makes them more likely to be awful not better right?

Not when they have been rightfully neutered of their powers.

[Spectral]

Well, that's always up to the officer. If he's satisfied that he's being told the truth, the license may be all he requires. If he has suspicions that something's not right, he can go further. I would guess he believed what she said. There's a difference in what *can* be done, and what is *required*, and most of it us up to the officer to decide if there's a reason to dig further. That's why I have a hard time believing that a lot of the stories are any more than incidents that happen, but are far less common than the news would like you to believe.

No officer likes to do extra paperwork, and any international stop involves it.

This explanation makes perfectly good sense, thanks!

[Wells]

Not when they have been rightfully neutered of their powers.

Then you'll just have to learn the names of whatever corporate lords operate in your area. You can't create a sustained power vacuum.

[Catta]

I haven't ever been to Italy, but i'll tell you this, Italians aint got shit on Israelis for being crazy drivers.

Crossing the street in US: look left, look right, look left, walk across
Crossing in Israel: Look left, look right, look left, look right, pray, look left, look right, sprint and hope you don't get run over

I sat in a taxi on the way to the airport and i was fearing for my life - the driver had never heard of such thing as brakes and just zig zagged around every car n stuff... Totally insane.

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Then you'll just have to learn the names of whatever corporate lords operate in your area. You can't create a sustained power vacuum.

Silence - common sense has no place here!

[KDSwain]

Then you'll just have to learn the names of whatever corporate lords operate in your area. You can't create a sustained power vacuum.

I prefer to deal with my mayor, alderman, governor and state legislature. If they want to get wacky, I'll move to Texas.

As for corporate lords, just read my sig

[Catta]

I prefer to deal with my mayor, alderman, governor and state legislature. If they want to get wacky, I'll move to Texas.

As for corporate lords, just read my sig

Could always just elect better leaders and stop having your politicians deciding what is moral and what is not. Worked wonderfully where I am.

[tiporispit]

You call it a Supreme Court decision. I call it treason. Time for term limits on these bums.

[KDSwain]

You can get a license while not being a citizen, and then let your visa expire. You still have that ID.

And I'm curious on whether state and local police officers have access to determine whether someone is here legally or not. I have my doubts, otherwise why the necessity to involve the feds on these types of things?

They don't. The local and state police have to contact CBP to check immigration status. Strangely, following this decision the Obama Admin has basically said they will no longer be there to answer the phone.

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You call it a Supreme Court decision. I call it treason. Time for term limits on these bums.

Not really. Immigration should be handled on a Federal level. The problem is that the Feds have no desire to do anything about it. Too many people on both ends of the political spectrum depend on illegal immigrants.

As for calling them bums, I think they will be redeeming themselves tomorrow when they inform the political scum that they cannot force Americans to purchase a product in order to be a legal citizen.

[Mashpotaters]

You can get a license while not being a citizen, and then let your visa expire. You still have that ID.

The license will expire before the expiration date on the visa. Basically, since you need the visa to get the license they won't set the expiration date on the license beyond the expiration date on the visa. Sure you'd still have that ID, but what good is an expired ID.

[helpmefindsong]

I support it. Can't wait to get the funds to move there.