1. #501
    Quote Originally Posted by Alyssa View Post
    I don't see the issue, so you can't use your RL cash to buy in game assets from other players through cash shop items, seems fair for all involved.
    I think you may have misunderstood me. I think this is a great rule and one that is needed in a game of this sort.

  2. #502
    For the 3 weeks i have been reading the forums, i was seeing the same word(s) all over the place.

    CI and energy shield CI and this, CI and that, i am glad it got nerfed, it seems much more balanced now, before that it seemed any witch and templar spec ended in CI but the tears at the official forums are amazing.

    and the whole chaos damage changes, same as holy damage in D2 but at least there is a resist affix in the game to counter it somehow, not as Holy damage in D2 >_>

  3. #503
    Quote Originally Posted by tangosmango View Post
    I think you may have misunderstood me. I think this is a great rule and one that is needed in a game of this sort.
    Fair enough, I misread how you meant it.

  4. #504
    Quote Originally Posted by potis View Post
    For the 3 weeks i have been reading the forums, i was seeing the same word(s) all over the place.

    CI and energy shield CI and this, CI and that, i am glad it got nerfed, it seems much more balanced now, before that it seemed any witch and templar spec ended in CI but the tears at the official forums are amazing.

    and the whole chaos damage changes, same as holy damage in D2 but at least there is a resist affix in the game to counter it somehow, not as Holy damage in D2 >_>
    I dunno, i've read that ES near endgame is very hard to come by.

  5. #505
    Converted to Keystone Passive - Ancestral Bond: You can summon up to 1 additional totem. You can't deal damage with your skills yourself.
    I wonder if summons can be used with this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fencers View Post
    Summoner Witch
    I'm surprised you didn't go for Hex Master and Whisper of Dooms. Then again, I never got super high level so I have no idea how good curses may or may not be on Merciless. Granted, I'm not sure where you'd pull points from to begin with.

  6. #506
    Generally, I found curses other than elemental weakness to be an absolute waste of time. It's like a wasted GCD.

    Especially if using any type of fast casting lightning attack/spell. The shock stacks are applied so quickly that the debuff from shock is enough to ignore.. everything.

    I have +20% Lightning Pen, Spark, Reduced Mana, Chaos Dmg, Faster Casting and Fork. Max Minion Life, Minion Dmg, Zombies, Skeletons and Specters too.

    My auras are max as well. With a max quality and level Lesser Multiple Projectile, Flame Totem, Chain, Ice Spear, Freezing Pulse and Elemental Proliferation and Power Siphon for special purposes.

    Curses are just not useful.

    If you wanna look at my gems:

    http://i.imgur.com/pzMvWq2.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/gA484Ev.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/9wPxHv0.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/EepxxWa.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/cAkwpkl.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/Cz2EtSp.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/AiN3Q12.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/YhiUWiM.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/MRG0nfr.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/dIVWbli.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/rM2D6Jj.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/zS3y8OM.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/wFvwRH2.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/DM4LxN0.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/EBfjIfw.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/npGfRgf.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/Cz2EtSp.jpg


    My total CI life with just discipline:










    Can hit 15,000 ES by swapping my wand if I need to play defensive.
    Last edited by Fencers; 2013-01-23 at 04:31 AM.

  7. #507
    Got to chamber of sins quest, first two levels were easy then I hit level 3 with the mages that do spark. Entered a room full of them and instantly died lol

    How would I go about getting through it? Kiting, buying lightning resistance gear?

  8. #508
    Quote Originally Posted by tangosmango View Post
    Got to chamber of sins quest, first two levels were easy then I hit level 3 with the mages that do spark. Entered a room full of them and instantly died lol

    How would I go about getting through it? Kiting, buying lightning resistance gear?
    Usually I get by, by just getting a single lightning resist ring with some life on it. I do tend to build my characters fairly defensively though, meaning I usually have a lot of life.

    On another note.. what the heck am I going to do with myself for the next ~12 hours? I find myself just staring at that damn timer hoping time passes faster. :/

  9. #509
    This is going to hurt

    The new player resistance penalties are 0% on Normal, -20% on Cruel and -60% on Merciless difficulty. Chaos resistance is now included and the same penalty applies to it.
    at least there are resistance mods on armor now ohh and some on the tree.

    Also looking at the CI "nerf" they are only removing the added energy shield from the node...says nothing about chaos damaging your shield instead...then they go and increase the energy shield nodes.
    Last edited by Lagwin; 2013-01-23 at 10:30 AM.

  10. #510
    Quote Originally Posted by Lagwin View Post
    This is going to hurt

    at least there are resistance mods on armor now ohh and some on the tree.
    There is supposedly less chaos damage mobs and the amount of chaos damage that is dealt was lowered. According to notes.

    Also looking at the CI "nerf" they are only removing the added energy shield from the node...says nothing about chaos damaging your shield instead...then they go and increase the energy shield nodes.
    They changed it.

    On Alpha the nerf to CI was 20% less ES and the damage went to the shield. This was on PTS all the way up to this deployment. So it seems CI being disassociated from ES is a still newer revision.


    There is a great design explanation thread here: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/70478

  11. #511
    Quote Originally Posted by Fencers View Post
    There is supposedly less chaos damage mobs and the amount of chaos damage that is dealt was lowered. According to notes.
    I saw that but even still a 60% negative resistance on chaos damage is still quite something to plug particularly with ele resistances as well.

    As for the CI i was under the impression that the chaos damage was going to damage the energy shield but it dose not mention it, they also have that new energy shield keystone converting health regen to ES regen and buffed the ES nodes...although i read the reduced the amount of ES items have it wont be by that much.
    Seems there are still going to be overpowered ES tank builds

    Also...kiwi packs are gone when the game goes down.
    Glad i got one wish it was bronze/silver/gold or diamond though but i am skint
    Last edited by Lagwin; 2013-01-23 at 05:19 PM.

  12. #512
    The change where chaos damages the shield first was scrapped last minute. Instead they pulled the ES out of CI and gave back the chaos immunity.

    Seems a fair trade if the new ES nodes are signification enough. Part of the problem with CI feeling "mandatory" was that raw ES nodes in the tree were sparse. Much less so than life and armor, adding insult was the fact those raw ES nodes were pitiful on their own.

    If you didn't take the 6 node clusters above the middle section as an ES user, you had to travel almost half the tree to pick up defenses. And these were not cheap either in terms of points.

    For example, if a witch travel straight for ES to the Nullification clusters, without picking up any damage nodes or CI, she would have spent an absurd 24 points. To reach the second cluster, 34 points. Using the fastest possible routes.

    Without CI the ES nodes were pitiful by themselves.

  13. #513
    Looks like the item shops are up: https://www.pathofexile.com/shop

    Some of the effects have preview vids, but nothing on the alt skill effects yet. The Summon Statues one could make for an interesting theme.

    Also, patch should be available.
    Last edited by Cyclone Jack; 2013-01-23 at 07:38 PM.

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    The downloader speed is killing me. Soooo slow. I D/L Dota2 into my pc in 6min and half and thats 3gb, this patch is half its size =/.

  15. #515
    Quote Originally Posted by Mirve View Post
    The downloader speed is killing me. Soooo slow. I D/L Dota2 into my pc in 6min and half and thats 3gb, this patch is half its size =/.
    It fluctuates a lot, mine keeps bouncing between 200kb and 5mb, halfway there though so not to bad.

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    Dunno must be you guy's connection I'm already over 90% done
    Claymore is Epic again, eat it priscilla fanboys.

  17. #517
    Yea, I am done downloading. Could be connection on user's end.

  18. #518
    Quote Originally Posted by Newbryn View Post
    Dunno must be you guy's connection I'm already over 90% done
    Who knows, might be different download locations, I doubt my 100/10 connection struggles downloading a 1,5gb file. =)


    Seems they know how to price things reasonably for the shop after taking a peek as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fencers View Post
    Yea, I am done downloading. Could be connection on user's end.
    Trust me, it's not, this is while running torrent software and the patcher.


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    Pretty sure it isn't , i regularly download games digitally , sometimes over 10gb and it never takes this long, usually can download at over 7mb/sec average. I even installed Dota2 today in a few minutes and thats over 3gb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alyssa View Post
    Who knows, might be different download locations, I doubt my 100/10 connection struggles downloading a 1,5gb file. =)


    Seems they know how to price things reasonably for the shop after taking a peek as well.
    Ya the cash-shop prices are pretty good already bought the phoenix headwear.
    Claymore is Epic again, eat it priscilla fanboys.

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