[Megathread] Path of Exile

[Aoewy]

That video where they say something along the lines of "After playing Huntress, we realized we miss the mark with older classes design and would have to revisit" or something like that.. if THIS is their vision I don't know what to say.. it feels like the entire game around doesn't fit

[Edge-]

I don't think I like Jonathan's vision too much.

Will play more by this update feels rough.

Looks like GGG agrees and they slapped like a 25% hp nerf on all mobs...which just took 25% off their max HP in-game so they were all missing a chunk of life so they reverted it lol.

It feels like they're already having a Kalandra moment in their first big update. Woof.

[Fencers]

Spears should be adjusted in their damage a bit more. I got to the endgame now, but leveling was rough.

So many spear skills are underpowered and the damage on spears themselves is pathetic compensation.

It's not so much that I am playing a Spear build as a bleed build with some esoteric mechanics.

Supports downsides are too much for low-level builds.

Perhaps adjusting Skills (of all types) higher early on and tapering toward the later tiers, while Supports could be the inverse.

For example, what if any given skill's effective values were 25% higher from tier 1-8, 10% higher from 8+ than current. So Supports and their downsides have a lesser impact on base Skills. However, allow for Supports to scale in the opposite manner: 25% for tier 8+, 10% for 7 and lower.

Then the mana cost of the endgame would be a more consistent expression as well.

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Also, it's just annoying to use some of these combos. Combos that work in action games well are combos that you do to a target.

Not combos you passively set up.

3x Whriling Slash > Barrage > 2x Twister > Disengage within a 4-second window to kill white mobs is too many combo steps for an extra 300 damage.

That could have been truncated to a melee attack that grants a debuff or buff that multiplies Twisters or additional slashes.

Or the forward attack cancel on Stomp to make use of Rake in a way where you are not fighting off the back foot.

Parry ought to be an aggressive defense.

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Warrior sucks. Rolling Lich.

[infinitemeridian]

Idk if I can come back to this game, especially after hearing about the negative reaction to the update. The biggest sins for me were:

1) Maps are way too big. Cut them in half at least.
2) Campaign is a slog and doing it once is more than enough.
3) Very little movement abilities

The fact they won't budge on the 1st / 2nd points shows how little they care about criticism. Until they fold, I won't come back.

[Fencers]

I was watching a streamer change their spear skill support gems mid-fight to get through the campaign. And it honestly looked like a better start than what I did to get through the campaign as a spear user Huntress.

Not great.

[Volatilis]

it literaly blows my mind how 230k people are playing this slop on steam when there is an actual fun power fantasy arpg like grim dawn on the market,it has challenging engame,and you can even start lvl 1 on ultimate if you are a poe2 masochist,but atleast its an option not forced,dying at lvl 2 to an aoe 1shot from ONE WHITE MOB in po2 is psychotic game design

Because grim dawn plays like ass and it never updates. If it was as good as you claim it would pull in the numbers

[Edge-]

Warrior sucks.

I mean, they changed very little overall and that part of the tree for mace is still filled with tons of aggressive downsides roflmao. I'm curious how Smith will be, heard the animation for smithing your weapon really is like 5 fucking seconds which if true is like...

are jonathan and mark working in isolation and not even talking to each other? it sure feels like it sometimes lmao

god i hope they don't pull devs off poe1 to unfuck this shit, let the poe2 team learn how to work within their own resources early. also don't you dare delate the next poe1 league

[Gorsameth]

god i hope they don't pull devs off poe1 to unfuck this shit, let the poe2 team learn how to work within their own resources early. also don't you dare delate the next poe1 league

Boy do I have a bridge to sell you...

[Edge-]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile..._of_kitavamp4/

guys...

you have to do the 5 second smithing animation mid-fight to get the buff back

i genuinely don't know what GGG is thinking anymore, lmao.

[NoiseTank13]

Because grim dawn plays like ass and it never updates. If it was as good as you claim it would pull in the numbers

?? Grim Dawn updates constantly and has an expansion coming down the pipeline. I imagine it doesn't get the following because you have to buy it, and the whole Titanquest anti-piracy fiasco slowed it.

That and it wasn't billed as a live-service game either.

[Fencers]

I mean, they changed very little overall and that part of the tree for mace is still filled with tons of aggressive downsides roflmao.

I tired to play Spear based Warrior with some warcries splashed in. It didn't work.

are jonathan and mark working in isolation and not even talking to each other? it sure feels like it sometimes lmao

Just as I was right on the money during the Diablo 4 closed and open betas (and posted as such); I think I am correct about POE2's development. "Lost in the sauce."

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...1#post54665736

I worked as a PM and regional marketing director for video games and educational software before. I have a good sense of how a developer's workflow from the language and tone when talking about the product and within the product itself.

[deenman]

Because grim dawn plays like ass and it never updates. If it was as good as you claim it would pull in the numbers

it plays extremly smooth it actualy feels better than how slow and clunky poe2 is lol,also it updates often lol,its done huge patches every few months and its 3rd expansion is coming

[Edge-]

https://www.twitch.tv/carn_/clip/Nas...m-tupkKSFBElNR

recombinating seems sorta dead for high tier mods. T7 + T9 = 0.91% chance of success. No other mods, just those two.

Other low tier mods seem to have very high success, but high tier mods - what you'd want to save for recombinating, seem pretty DoA

[Fencers]

Tried to use Parry in endgame. Ooof. This will not work for 99% of players. There is no way.

[prwraith]

I've never tried to enjoy a game so much that clearly does not want to be enjoyed

[Fencers]

I feel like these "1-button Amazon Map Blaster" builds on the YT feed are bait.

How are these people staying alive in maps to parry? How can they kill pinnacle bosses in seconds without an 8-button combo?

Everything I tried sucked ass.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile..._of_kitavamp4/

guys...

you have to do the 5 second smithing animation mid-fight to get the buff back

i genuinely don't know what GGG is thinking anymore, lmao.

Man I’m happy I’m giving PoE2 a pass for now, this is the dumbest design I might have ever seen in an ARPG.

[Edge-]

Man I’m happy I’m giving PoE2 a pass for now, this is the dumbest design I might have ever seen in an ARPG.

I was already sketchy after launch, but after this patch my confidence in GGG, or at least the crew lead by Jonathan, is basically gone.

We'll see how the next PoE league is, hopefully it won't get delayed and I believe Mark still leads those.

I cannot understand so many of these design decisions and it continues to feel like Mark and Jonathan are designing on two different branches of the game and then merging together in a mishmash or some weird shit, man.

[deenman]

when you are having more fun in diablo 4 than in a poe game...something is very very wrong,titan quest 2 cant come soon enough

[Lorgar Aurelian]

I was already sketchy after launch, but after this patch my confidence in GGG, or at least the crew lead by Jonathan, is basically gone.

We'll see how the next PoE league is, hopefully it won't get delayed and I believe Mark still leads those.

I cannot understand so many of these design decisions and it continues to feel like Mark and Jonathan are designing on two different branches of the game and then merging together in a mishmash or some weird shit, man.

Ya I'm holding out hope for the new league as it's likely going to make or break POE1 and honestly if they end up putting 1 on life support for 2 full time I can't say im likely to stay with the franchise even though 1 is likely my second favorite game.