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    It's amazing to me how all these types of threads turn into "Let's bash the US" threads. If one person points out one positive thing about it...10 others are there to try to put it down. Notice I say "try". Just once I would like to see a civil discussion and not a bunch of bashing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yurano View Post
    You misinterpreted what I said.

    I meant to say: Its easier to become rich by selling your own natural resources.

    Selling human resources (high tech, labor) is better in the long run, but you don't make as much money.
    Sorry, you're right, I understood wrong what you meant.

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    Is Canada really richer? Or are they just losing slower than us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shop Ebay View Post
    Is Canada really richer? Or are they just losing slower than us.
    Canada is not richer, their people are richer. In the US most of the money is in the hands of corporations. There is more money in the US, it's just not accessible by the average household.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Hell, even a left-wing party would be an interesting change.

    And before anyone says "Democrats", the Democrats have been moderately right-wing for decades, on the global scale. "Slightly less right-wing" is not the same as "left-wing".
    Well the democrats are basically big government and stupid. They're for bank bailouts, spending overseas, increased taxes, the POTUS has escalated the drug war, increased regulations in virtually every aspect of the country, turned the EPA into another branch of the military, and enforces foreign laws inside the US. Even as a libertarian/conservative, I'd vote for a "Left wing" party that was against bank bailouts, wars, spending overseas, and pro-personal liberty over Mitt, even if it meant I had to basically compromise on the rest of the issues.

    42% of the United States Budget is Military and Medicare. I'd wager we could trade overseas wars for single-payer, another two things I'd rather be without but I'd much rather trade for the one I don't have.

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    Well the democrats are basically big government and stupid.
    Hate to tell you pal but both parties are "big government". The Democrats just don't lie to you about it.

    really curious what these foreign laws are that Obama is enforcing.

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    The US politicians could learn to comprimise a bit I guess. It seems like it's more important for them to get it their way rather then get it the right way. From what I read it sounds more like Canada is center-right by definition of the political "compass" that I'm used to. The only ones that could possibly call it socialism is american republicans but they are all a bit crazy ;P.
    The nerve is called the "nerve of awareness". You cant dissect it. Its a current that runs up the center of your spine. I dont know if any of you have sat down, crossed your legs, smoked DMT, and watch what happens... but what happens to me is this big thing goes RRRRRRRRRAAAAAWWW! up my spine and flashes in my brain... well apparently thats whats going to happen if I do this stuff...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackmoves View Post
    The US politicians could learn to comprimise a bit I guess. It seems like it's more important for them to get it their way rather then get it the right way. From what I read it sounds more like Canada is center-right by definition of the political "compass" that I'm used to. The only ones that could possibly call it socialism is american republicans but they are all a bit crazy ;P.
    The problem is "compromise" in this country has meant "go further and further to the right" for two decades now. One party dragging another off the deep end isn't compromise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalis View Post
    "brutal" cuts to social programs, cutting corporate taxes,

    Socialism?
    Just because you are socialist doesnt make you idiots who cant manage an economy and cut when needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TradewindNQ View Post
    ...then there was AdScam.
    A tempest in a shot glass. the total the gomery inquiry was able to find was 2.5 million in improper bids, and 1.75 million for work undone. I would think the conservatives in-and-out games more than override that, though on the other hand, i'll vote for neither Liberals (not that any lib other than Goodale stands a chance in hell of being elected in this province) nor Conservatives (not least because Lukiwski is an asshole).

    Quote Originally Posted by Hiricine View Post
    42% of the United States Budget is Military and Medicare. I'd wager we could trade overseas wars for single-payer, another two things I'd rather be without but I'd much rather trade for the one I don't have.
    You could trade medicare/medicaid for single payer. Seriously, between those programs, your government spends as much per capita on healthcare as Canada does, then you double-down by spending again as much in private spending.

    Mostly what's needing is to threaten medical companies (especially pharmaceutical companies) with a club and bring prices down to earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arnorei View Post
    What's so bad in being socialist that so many people jump? It's not communism. It's just that the state takes more care of people and tries to balance incomes more. So when a country has a healthcare system payed by everyone as a tax, that's socialism. When a country has a system where everyone pays their own healthcare alone, and if you don't have money you die, that's not socialism. Even your dear USA has socialist measures, some countries have more though.
    The average american's education is among the poorest of any comparable industrial country. One cannot be surprised they cant tell socialism from communism. Just look at the use of libertarian, or liberal over there.
    Last edited by Bakis; 2012-07-24 at 02:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by holyunholy View Post
    There was a similar topic about a couple of days ago and this is what I posted :



    In the end using an average does not tell the whole story. Many subtleties are lost
    What quarter is crying slavery and racism at every turn? Seems like a borderline ignorant statement.

  13. #93
    Well, the main reason Canada is doing better right now is because of the wild economic swings and Canada's more conservative (not political or social conservatism but meaning taking fewer risks) approach to things, and by building a base of solid social programs to help moderate things.

    In good times Canada's peaks are less high.
    In bad times Canada's valleys are less low.

    Overall it probably ends up about the same, but by using government and some socialism to help moderate the highs and lows and keep things more in the middle, life is a LOT easier on the people. It's really moderating the lows--like right now--that is the most beneficial.

    Yes, the natural resources help.
    Yes, having govt with the foresight to get the financial house in order when economic times were good helped.

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    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...ng-bubble.html

    The housing bubble in Canada is what is driving those numbers, when the market corrects itself that trend will also. When speaking of personal wealth one has to start and finish with the housing market.

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