That spreadsheet is for HC so just tamper with the variables to set it for Normal
That spreadsheet is for HC so just tamper with the variables to set it for Normal
This was probably discusses in this thread already but: How would you rank the 4p and how many procs do you usually haver per fight? I suppose it's a 10-20% increase of the SotR uptime, is that right?
I'm curious if I should consider switching hc offset shoulders and warforged helm to nhc set items.
regarding that thok's vs horridon's math, I have only horridon normal, which is 1581 haste, and thok normal, which is 7.5427 haste.
taking that math, that magic number x would be 20960 - which is below the cap.
do I understand it correctly, that if I reach 20961 or more haste WITH horridon's (and without thok's), switching to thok's instead of horridon's is a gain, right? or is this only true if I would have 20961 with thok's and without horridon's, which, in that case, would still be over cap?
No. Since when switching you're loosing all of that extra haste. The magic number is how much haste you need when you equip the thok to hit the softcap.
In your version once you switch from thok from horridon you're losing all of the haste of horridons.
So you need 20960 haste on all of your gear when you equip thok.
which does not really make sense, does it? because the hardcap w/o thok is 21250, and with 20960 + thok my haste would be somewhere at 22500, aka way over cap.
I am confused.
and yes I know, thok most likely is superior because it's not only haste, it's mastery and crithealing as well, +the proc is stronger. but for the haste math I can't quite follow what it means. But I guess, in the end it's not really important anymore, once I hit the hard cap with thok and without horridon, I can safely bank horridons.
I have a question about Paladins. I never played one so i want to know. My guild's second tank is a port paladin with 565ilvl but he does only 100k damage. Is this normal for a paladin? Never looked at other paladins damage before.
Without context a sensible answer is not possible. In 10N I am doing around that number most of the fights. Our prot warrior is way ahead of me especially when there are adds ( sha ). When I look at logs of higher ranking paladins they are most of the time tanking for more time of the fight or are solo tanking entirely which nets you much more vengeance and therefor damage.
On the other hand I would say tank damage should be the last point to look for as long as you are killing bosses. I strive to do more myself. But doing our primary job of staying alive and somewhat controlling the fight is more important. If your tank is good enough with that part then he can try to do more damage. Which depends on vengeance after all. Whithout it you can throw wet noodles at the boss to have the same effect.
Last edited by Feuerbart; 2013-11-25 at 10:28 AM.
Tell your raid leader to consider switching you. I tank Haromm and we typically have our DPS DK in blood spec, our fury warrior and a resto shaman up there.
Hand of Purity on the shaman for the last seconds of Toxic Mist, Hand of Sacrifice for things like Foul Stream & Falling Ash, Eternal Flame ticking on people and one of the 90 talents - all these things are just too useful to pass up, and would be mostly wasted with me tanking the other boss.
Hmm.. that's strange. I usually let our other MT tank a bit longer than I do (he's a bit of a drama queen if he doesn't get enough to do – different story...) which usually results in lower vengeance on my part. I'm currently at 42% haste and do about 150-160k dps in 10 man normal. Finally I'd like to add I'm not one of those insane dps-tanks and focus more on avoidance/mitigation than tank damage. Therefore I assume most pallys do more damage than me under normal circumstances.
These numbers don't apply on aoe-heavy fights with high vengeance (eg. phase 1 Garosh) where I can pull 550k (and even for the complete fight this will not go under 280-330k). Pallys are quite dependent on high vengeance, not only for damage but defensive/healing abilities as well.