They changed the intellect trinket as well. Pity. I kinda liked Full of Stars.
They changed the intellect trinket as well. Pity. I kinda liked Full of Stars.
How is the shado-pan trinket for WWs? I thougt the hast could give good burst?
It's not bad, but behind RoX, Bottle (N), Terror (N) and Woundripper/Arrowflight.
To be fair, it's not good. It's behind LFR Bottle and LFR Terror. If you have neither of the aforementioned, Relic or Woundripper/Arrowflight, then yes, it will be an upgrade - otherwise it won't, it's rather bad for it's ilvl.
Well i have "searing words" so it would prob be a upgrade? not sure tho :S im still trying to addat the dps here and trying to max my dps for the raids
If you're anywhere close to getting RoX, LFR/Normal/HC Bottle/Terror, then don't get it, otherwise it might be worthwhile. Do keep in mind however that the reputation trinket from the new 5.1 faction is better, and your valor would be better spent there.
For the default haste>crit build: If I take Ascension will I still need to aim for 6k haste rating?
Soothing Mist:"Healing them for a minor amount every 0.5 sec, until you take any other action."
Jade Serpent Statue: "The statue will also begin casting Soothing Mist on your target. healing for 50% as much as yours. "
[What's half of minor?]
"Statue casts Soothing Mist at a nearby ally for toddler healing."
I think you'd find yourself energy capped a lot if you're raiding with ascension and 6k haste rating.
As for the 6k haste breakpoint, I'm fairly certain they fixed FoF losing a tick above 6,1k+ haste rating.
Depending on your mastery, you start GCD capping at about 14% haste with Ascension. Not what rating that translates to, but your milage may vary.
Here is a quick and dirty spreadsheet I made to check haste caps w/ Ascension:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...WpaZGg0TktDUEE
Look at the spare GCD column. When it starts going negative, you passed the haste soft cap. When your Tiger Palms/Min caps at 3, you start TP capping.
Last edited by Saltycracker; 2012-12-04 at 10:56 PM.
The more significant part about the shado-pan trinket is that the haste it gives grants you nearly 1 more energy per second while it is up. This basically means you get a little under 15 energy from using this proc. If you can use that energy every minute without capping then you will find that the trinket isn't too bad since it carries innate agility.
The other epic options will always be superior by nature and if you run haste heavy you really wont benefit much from the use effect on this one, but it's perhaps not quite as terrible if you view it as an energy use effect and can actively make use of that extra.
I actually had it because I was originally a brewmaster and i felt it functioned well as a way to get in more energy generation with a good passive stat bonus pre- 5.1. However now I got asked to go dps and had the choice of any of the blue trinkets/alchemy trinket or this one. I chose this one for the higher passive bonus.
One thing about trinkets I believe is valuable to us is that we are less restricted by the nature of a proc as our damage is very smooth and we can usually proc some level of tiger eye brew with our trinkets at any time, where as some classes want much more for trinkets to match up with long cooldowns. This I believe allows us to take trinket effects at more of an average value.
haven't been through all this post yet but :
- What does Xuen bénéfit from when we invoc him ? agiliti / hâst / crit / tiger brew, ...
- Is it better to delay it a bit or always on CD
This information is in the guide, read before posting please.
All the values in the spreadsheet assume that you are fully raidbuffed, so the haste column on the left is your raid buffed haste. I've been using AskMrRobot to calculate my raidbuffed stats with my gear and reforging, so to find your stats on your character sheet, just subtract 10% haste, 5% for mastery, etc.
By no means is this spreadsheet an end all be all, but more of a "typical minute" of our rotation, and how many of each ability we are expected to use. If you had perfect foresight, rotation, and no input lag, this is what would result. I'll work on adding some fudge factors later on, but I just wanted to know what targets to shoot for with reforging.
Last edited by Saltycracker; 2012-12-05 at 07:02 PM.
Ok so here is a reallllllly seemingly dumb question. It could be because I'm not well versed in spreadsheets, but, you seem to have highlighted row 36 as the ideal haste breakpoint. That seems to only 1.165% haste. Am i reading that right? Because that seems like a stupidly low amount of haste. If I'm being an idiot, mind helping interpret this thing?
Edit: Im also seeing that higher haste still gives more DPS if you take power strikes?
Thanks
Last edited by Girthmonster; 2012-12-05 at 11:26 PM.
About the Tier30 talents:
As of 5.1, am I right in assuming "Zen Sphere" is still considered a technical DPS gain if used to replace a BoK?
Would Chi Wave be a noticeable DPS loss if used to help offset raid-wide damage phases on bosses? (Would that even be helpful?)
Is there anything that a WW Monk brings as far as raid utility in comparison to an Elemental Shaman? (Seeing as they bring extra healing and one more buff than we do)
12:02 (EST) Edit: So, I take stat weights very seriously.
Last edited by TheWindWalker; 2012-12-06 at 05:03 AM. Reason: Avoiding a double post
Soothing Mist:"Healing them for a minor amount every 0.5 sec, until you take any other action."
Jade Serpent Statue: "The statue will also begin casting Soothing Mist on your target. healing for 50% as much as yours. "
[What's half of minor?]
"Statue casts Soothing Mist at a nearby ally for toddler healing."