Toughness comes from Traits or from itemization and in GW2 its becoming clear to me it really helps in all aspects of the game.

It might be early days but what do people think about this stat for PvE and PvP? What number would you be looking for? +/- 1k?

I am seeing many players with 0 Toughness, no points in Traits or from gear at all -so in other words glass cannons as they invest heavily into DPS/HPS. In 5 man runs I notice that my +1k Toughness allows for several hits from the boss while others die I do not! In PvP I run with +1700 and even then burst builds hurt BUT those who seem to hurt the most take the most damage!