Unfortunately, I bought Guild Wars 2

[Moltentank19]

My opinion does not matter.

[Shadylol]

I tried to go back and it didn't help that everything changed and not for the better for the most part. Level 85 is completely imba at this point and it's completely useless to play.

I really cannot stand how offensive minded WoW is and I really never thought about it. Most defensive abilities in WoW are passive or RNG. Blizzards idea of Defense seems to be 8 second immunities. The only thing about WoW I miss is how stable everything is most of the time as GW2 has some of the issues WoW had back in Vanilla and then some.

When I went back to WoW I cannot tell you how many times I attempted to dodge or attempted to avoid a casters bolts by moving around. In a way I got better at WoW because I was more patient with my abilities (as Guild Wars 2 seems to condition you to do) but at the same time I found myself getting massacred because I was trying to avoid ranged abilities that aren't avoidable at all.

The combat in GW2 definitely takes a great deal more skill than RNG/Setup/Gear and to me that is very important in PvP and keeps me way more interested in PvE.

Also coming back to WoW is a nightmare because you have to go down a huge checklist of things to do to be ready to play. Talent, Bars, Glyphs, Reforging.. And there are too many damn buttons even for someone as myself who keybinds every single one.

How can you say that Guild Wars 2 requires more skill, but then say WoW is too hard because there's "too many damn buttons"? That seems like a contradiction

Also, I don't see how hitting your invulnerable dodge key is "skill"

[Gritalian]

I tried to go back and it didn't help that everything changed and not for the better for the most part. Level 85 is completely imba at this point and it's completely useless to play.

Ya man, maybe you heard there is a new level cap a few days away, 85 isn't exactly their priority at this point. This is like complaining that you can 2 shot mobs in Hellfire as a lvl 58 holy paladin...

[nocturnus]

Welcome to the club my friend. I've persuaded a total of 17 friends now and only 2 of them are considering mop. Everyone else uninstalled and unsubbed wow - quite literally.

[Shadylol]

Ya man, maybe you heard there is a new level cap a few days away, 85 isn't exactly their priority at this point. This is like complaining that you can 2 shot mobs in Hellfire as a lvl 58 holy paladin...

Just another guy that won't acknowledge that WoW will be a different expansion less than one week from now, but will use "the game just came out" to excuse Guild Wars 2's shortcomings

If you're going to use that logic for GW2, then you have to use it for WoW as well

[Gritalian]

How can you say that Guild Wars 2 requires more skill, but then say WoW is too hard because there's "too many damn buttons"? That seems like a contradiction

Also, I don't see how hitting your invulnerable dodge key is "skill"

His whole argument is bad. He's basically saying WoW is bad because game mechanics from another game don't work in it.

Yea we get it, you can't roll twice every however many seconds to avoid frostbolts. I don't get into my yacht and complain that it doesn't get very good gas mileage on the freeway. (I don't own a yacht)

[Shadylol]

Welcome to the club my friend. I've persuaded a total of 17 friends now and only 2 of them are considering mop. Everyone else uninstalled and unsubbed wow - quite literally.

Why bother uninstalling? I have three WoW clients on my computer, along with Guild Wars 2, SWTOR, and a host of other games

Any modern hard drive should have no trouble storing both games at once

[Redcinder]

Im failing to see why you are finding this unfortunate ?? Isnt it a good thing you have found something else you now enjoy ?

[Shadylol]

His whole argument is bad. He's basically saying WoW is bad because game mechanics from another game don't work in it.

Yea we get it, you can't roll twice every however many seconds to avoid frostbolts. I don't get into my yacht and complain that it doesn't get very good gas mileage on the freeway. (I don't own a yacht)

Lol, I like that comparison

And I agree, but it's not only that, as I'd also say that the invulerability caused from dodge rolling makes GW2 significantly easier than WoW, not harder

[Awe]

I just don't see why we're acting like only WoW has easy design elements. The WoW game isn't about standing at a target dummy any making sure you don't drop Steady Focus... (which btw, given haste ratings, you don't stand there spamming Steady Shot).

You stated you feel pressure on bosses in GW2... why? You die, go read reddit, and wait for someone to res you, which they will because it gives them XP. You don't even need to be at your computer to accept the res. Where exactly is the pressure in that? You've added the idea for your GW playtime that you need to be perfect, not die, and keep up a perfect rota.... err, whatever we want to call it... and then dismiss wanting to have that same perfection in WoW.

Sure you can skate by in WoW doing mediocre dps and lightly trying to stay alive... except it costs your team either having to waste one of their 3 (25m) or 1 (10m) brezes on you or the team is at a severe disadvantage. But in GW you can literally auto attack, die, get auto rezed... not even have to accept the res, continue to auto attack and get some reward when ever the boss finally dies. You don't have to be perfect in GW2... you choose to, and that's your right, but then you mention the lack of needing a perfect rotation in WoW like it's mandatory in GW... it's not.. the combat in group events could barely be any easier.

Where did I said that I did not tried to keep as perfect rotation in WoW as I could? I always tried. And same I always try to do my best in GW2. As a personal challange and also I have a feeling people will look at me bad if I will slack. Then again. Trying my best in GW2 so far requires more of my attention than trying my best in WoW. We talk about PvE. I can agree that PvP can be different. Maybe the situation would be different if we didnt had DBM in WoW and everything was not so up-the-clock in encounters. The chaotic nature of GW2 encounters actually acts as a layer of additional challenge. In WoW I very often just watched the DBM bar and knew that I was safe until it reaches zero.

[Redcinder]

Welcome to the club my friend. I've persuaded a total of 17 friends now and only 2 of them are considering mop. Everyone else uninstalled and unsubbed wow - quite literally.

Ive not managed to persuade 43 of my friends and only 1 is thinking about play GW2.....

See how easy it is to pull numbers

[Deleted]

Say it again in 6 month.

Exploring new world is interesting, questing and leveling is fun, but can this game keep you interested for several years?

QFT

Everyone says that about MMO's they switch to from WoW

[Raven]

GW2 is a good game and well made and will probably be popular along time for its pvp, but kinda funny, that people say ohh dynamic events are so much cooler than questing when, dynamic event is questing, just that if you manage your Quest A you get Quest B and if you fail Quest A you get Quest C instead of B, but its still questing, and still the same old, kill X of those, or pick up x of those or escort this guy to that place or guard this x amount of time. its like you can call a cat a dog but its still a cat.

[Gritalian]

Lol, I like that comparison

And I agree, but it's not only that, as I'd also say that the invulerability caused from dodge rolling makes GW2 significantly easier than WoW, not harder

It's not even a mechanic that can be used with consistency making it barely a utility. Fighting a boss that hits you when your in melee range but you can avoid it twice out of... 8 times? Oh right, the game isn't balanced around being melee so luckily everyone can be ranged also... I always wanted a huge plate wearing guardian with a wand.

[Deleted]

I'm sorry, but your signature is absolutely hilarious after reading your post. Not sure if you intended it that way, but that's worth framing.

I never cried for having another MMO, didn't say that things before were bad, only to then bash the changes. What my sig says, and what I said are two different things.

[Deleted]

Lets keep comparing WoW Hc raiding with gw2 shall we, because you know is soooooooo relevant. Get a grip folks.

[Gritalian]

Where did I said that I did not tried to keep as perfect rotation in WoW as I could? I always tried. And same I always try to do my best in GW2. As a personal challange and also I have a feeling people will look at me bad if I will slack. Then again. Trying my best in GW2 so far requires more of my attention than trying my best in WoW. We talk about PvE. I can agree that PvP can be different. Maybe the situation would be different if we didnt had DBM in WoW and everything was not so up-the-clock in encounters. The chaotic nature of GW2 encounters actually acts as a layer of additional challenge. In WoW I very often just watched the DBM bar and knew that I was safe until it reaches zero.

So you gave yourself addons that help make the game easier, admit that all you do is sit there and look at the bars waiting for them to tell you what to do... and then complain that the game is easy... gotcha.

[nocturnus]

Why bother uninstalling? I have three WoW clients on my computer, along with Guild Wars 2, SWTOR, and a host of other games

Any modern hard drive should have no trouble storing both games at once

I have a principe for most material things: If I haven't used them once over a period of time I throw them out, or give them away. I do the same thing with my clothing, kitchen appliances etc...

We know we won't touch wow because there's nothing we enjoy about it. Everything we disliked about the game, was fixed and ameliorated by Anet. Wow's game-client had no purpose and was exorcised from my disk.

My house is big enough to store those pair of Lanvins I never wear anymore. I still threw them out, no point in keeping them.

[Shadylol]

It's not even a mechanic that can be used with consistency making it barely a utility. Fighting a boss that hits you when your in melee range but you can avoid it twice out of... 8 times? Oh right, the game isn't balanced around being melee so luckily everyone can be ranged also... I always wanted a huge plate wearing guardian with a wand.

That's the exact reason my Warrior is shelved at 80, while I now level a Ranger for the time I can stand to play the game

"RIFLE SPEC LOL" isn't what I had in mind when I made a Warrior

[Awe]

It's not even a mechanic that can be used with consistency making it barely a utility. Fighting a boss that hits you when your in melee range but you can avoid it twice out of... 8 times? Oh right, the game isn't balanced around being melee so luckily everyone can be ranged also... I always wanted a huge plate wearing guardian with a wand.

If a warrior friend who I spoke with is not pranking me, melee also do A LOT more burst damage than ranged can. When he told me what numbers he can produce by throwing a hundred blades skill or simply by chain of basic strikes, I was like WTF. Those are numbers far beyond what my engineer or ranger alt can produce. Maybe thats how its balanced? To compensate for less uptime? I dont know. I will be trying a melee class in the future. Meanhwile I wont dismiss that perhaps being melee is broken in some way. But my melee friends are not complaining. At least in PvE. WvWvW can be painful for a sword wielder, I admit that.