[Megathread] Star Citizen

[Waaldo]

If they are open why do they have no transparency on how they are spending the money.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freelancer_(video_game)

should read up on that. It seems to be the same path this game is following.

Do you want them to publish their taxed? It's a fucking business. Their employees are obviously getting paid so what's the problem?

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...to-development

[Zeta333]

Do you want them to publish their taxed? It's a fucking business. Their employees are obviously getting paid so what's the problem?

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...to-development

Its a company run entierly off of donations atm, So telling me they dont have to be transparent is dumb.

[Orange Joe]

Its a company run entierly off of donations atm, So telling me they dont have to be transparent is dumb.

What law says they have to release that info?

[zealo]

What law says they have to release that info?

No law at all. Its a private company without shareholders at this time and they have no obligation to open their books to anyone bar the IRS for taxation purposes. Whether it would give more financial transparency to everyone who donated to their project however is another matter, which they are unlikely to do.

[Zeta333]

What law says they have to release that info?

No law, but i know a great deal of those that backed them want to know where thier money is going.

[Orange Joe]

No law, but i know a great deal of those that backed them want to know where thier money is going.

Unless there is a law that says they do they do not have to be transparent. (whether you think it's dumb for them or not)

[kenn9530]

No law, but i know a great deal of those that backed them want to know where thier money is going.

if they look on the website you can clearly see where all the money is going, its being put into making the game, paying the bill/wages in order to have the facilities and personnel to make it, a normal game of this magnitude would cost hundreds of millions to make, this has a budget of 85 million dollars atm which is really not that much, so anyone who can't see where that money is going has no clue on the development of a game on this scale.

[Zeta333]

Unless there is a law that says they do they do not have to be transparent. (whether you think it's dumb for them or not)

Meanwhile delay after delay after delay. Chris has a grand vision i will give him this, but his visions seem to not equate with reasonable time. he should have finished the base game, released it, then focused on the fps module, then landing on planets ect. Not do them all and half a hand full of half or unfinished parts of a grand vision of a game.

[Rennadrel]

How is it looking good. Can you honestly look at whats been done and think that it will be released in full before the end of 2017? Instead of focusing on finishing the core gameplay to me every single update it seems that they keep expanding and trying to add more modules. FPS combat ect while the core game, flying in space isnt even finish. All i read is tons of fans upset over the lack of transparency with thier spending of donated funds and how many people are waiting untill in a few months that can start to request refunds from the kickstarter.

They keep adding more shit because that is what backers keep asking for. Money talks and in a situation like this where it's quite possibly the last game that Chris Roberts ever creates and really encompasses two different games in one package with Squadron 42 and Star Citizen, your persistent bitching is getting boring and old. The whole goal was for the game to be in a live state by the end of 2017, and that is still a long way off, maybe it would be better to ask that question once all of the core components of Star Citizen actually start hitting the alpha stages, rather than just Arena Commander and assuming that nothing is being worked on.

[Waaldo]

Meanwhile delay after delay after delay. Chris has a grand vision i will give him this, but his visions seem to not equate with reasonable time. he should have finished the base game, released it, then focused on the fps module, then landing on planets ect. Not do them all and half a hand full of half or unfinished parts of a grand vision of a game.

Uh...no! Releasing the base game without FPS, landing on planets, etc... is releasing an unfinished game. We don't want the unfinished shit that is every AAA titles now-a-days.

The reason it is taking long is because Chris Roberts wants this game to be finished on release, and any sane person who backed it should know that by now.

[Zeta333]

Uh...no! Releasing the base game without FPS, landing on planets, etc... is releasing an unfinished game. We don't want the unfinished shit that is every AAA titles now-a-days.

The reason it is taking long is because Chris Roberts wants this game to be finished on release, and any sane person who backed it should know that by now.

Then enjoy the game if it comes out in the next 3 years.

[Wilian]

you just stick with the sub par game that is wow and let us wait for star citizen to launch in all its full glory

Le kek. I hope to be around just to see the scale of Stockholm Syndrome you've built up just when this game finally releases in it's dysfunctional state.

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Then enjoy the game if it comes out in the next 3 years.

Make it 5 years and then 3 years patching because the way they handle their developement means almoust all parts of the game are dysfunctional beyond the most basic level.

[Orange Joe]

Then enjoy the game if it comes out in the next 3 years.

Thats exactly what we are planning to do. If anyone backed this expecting it out any time soon made the mistake of not looking into what they were backing.

[Wilian]

Thats exactly what we are planning to do. If anyone backed this expecting it out any time soon made the mistake of not looking into what they were backing.

I knew what I was backing. This stopped being that ages ago. If you honestly believe anything good comes out of this with the way they handle developement, you're delusional at best.*

*The flight model is good, but that won't carry entire game as is.

[Tradewind]

It's like a piece of Derek Smart broke off from the main "mass" and grew into a new person.

[Orange Joe]

I knew what I was backing. This stopped being that ages ago. If you honestly believe anything good comes out of this with the way they handle developement, you're delusional at best.*

*The flight model is good, but that won't carry entire game as is.

Apparently you didn't as it wasn't even close to finished ages ago?



What did you think you were backing that they aren't doing now?

[Waaldo]

I knew what I was backing. This stopped being that ages ago. If you honestly believe anything good comes out of this with the way they handle developement, you're delusional at best.*

*The flight model is good, but that won't carry entire game as is.

You clearly had no idea what you were backing, lol. Did you not watch the multi-crew demo?

[Wilian]

Obviously you guys have difficult time of making distinction between promises, increased "backer rewards" and prolonged developement cycle spread over multitude of teams with abstract oversight.

[zealo]

Apparently you didn't as it wasn't even close to finished ages ago?



What did you think you were backing that they aren't doing now?

The original kickstarter certainly wasn't for a game for the scope they are doing now and anyone claiming it was is lying to themselves.

[Orange Joe]

The original kickstarter certainly wasn't for a game for the scope they are doing now and anyone claiming it was is lying to themselves.

I think if anyone is lying to themselves it's you. I think the only thing that added that wasn't planned from the start is the fps part. otherwise everything else has been planned from the beginning.