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    I heard this all went bellyup, that true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myg View Post
    I heard this all went bellyup, that true?
    Short answer: No.

    Slightly longer answer: Lots of accusations were flying around made by former employees some time ago. Releases are still coming out for the alpha though, so it seems the game is still on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvcRo View Post


    video description is funny

    Published on Dec 6, 2015
    Playable now! Or, not so much.
    Yes, playable. Also, alpha, so surprise surprise, there are bugs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerraw View Post
    Short answer: No.

    Slightly longer answer: Lots of accusations were flying around made by former employees some time ago. Releases are still coming out for the alpha though, so it seems the game is still on.
    the accusations from "former" employees were never vetted, thus unconfirmed if they were actually the employees themselves and actually were the writers of the blog who were in collaboration with derek smart, who has a very unhealthy obsession of doomsaying that this game will never come to fruition.

    so the answer is, no it hasnt bellyupped, and there has been no indication that it will be, if anything, the more recent video releases and the 2.0 PTU available to a portion of backers should say it's steaming right along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkrulerxxx View Post
    the accusations from "former" employees were never vetted, thus unconfirmed if they were actually the employees themselves and actually were the writers of the blog who were in collaboration with derek smart, who has a very unhealthy obsession of doomsaying that this game will never come to fruition.

    so the answer is, no it hasnt bellyupped, and there has been no indication that it will be, if anything, the more recent video releases and the 2.0 PTU available to a portion of backers should say it's steaming right along.
    That's how anonymized sources work, the escapist stated their own vetting procedure and that has to suffice. Essentially, by publishing such an article based on anonymized sources they are vouching for their validity. It's not like they could've printed the names in the questions sent to CR and say "Hey do (or did) these guys and gals work for you?". Worth noting there's been no retraction of the article.

    Anyhow, development is trundling along and hopefully the game turns out to be somewhat close to what was pitched.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1001 View Post
    That's how anonymized sources work, the escapist stated their own vetting procedure and that has to suffice. Essentially, by publishing such an article based on anonymized sources they are vouching for their validity. It's not like they could've printed the names in the questions sent to CR and say "Hey do (or did) these guys and gals work for you?". Worth noting there's been no retraction of the article.

    Anyhow, development is trundling along and hopefully the game turns out to be somewhat close to what was pitched.
    they're "Vetting" procedure consisted of falsified and copied quotes that were posted on a job review site glassdoor that was posted a day before the escapist that was confirmed from a troll. Escapist used a false quote and put it under a "confirmed" source.

    The escapist is a fucking joke.

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    They also "confirmed" that they were employees based on name badges, which CIG doesnt issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by masterhorus8 View Post
    They also "confirmed" that they were employees based on name badges, which CIG doesnt issue.
    not only that, if there were actual emails of Sandi Gardiner spewing racist, discriminatory statements to the employees, there would be ELECTRONIC EVIDENCE that would have already popped up from these so called sources, and huge lawsuits, none of which have ever happened.

    What's more plausible is that the writer of the original article of star citizen had already known large ties with derek smart, and the article itself reeked of smart's doomsaying on star citizen.

    it was pretty clear that it's all bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvcRo View Post
    Playable now! Or, not so much.


    BF4...$100MM+ budget...sold for $60 with bugs on release!

    Oh the humanity! Get over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Yes, playable. Also, alpha, so surprise surprise, there are bugs!
    if i look at the advertising they made at Games awards (paying for ad space with backer money) there is no mention of bugs, it says PLAYABLE NOW!

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    BF4...$100MM+ budget...sold for $60 with bugs on release!

    Oh the humanity! Get over it.
    comparing BF4 at release with SC PRE Alpha Alpha 2.0 is like comparing humans with amoebas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvcRo View Post
    if i look at the advertising they made at Games awards (paying for ad space with backer money) there is no mention of bugs, it says PLAYABLE NOW!
    And? It is playable now. They never said anything about the game being bug free, or even launched. They said it's playable, and it is.

    Welcome to marketing, its goal is to sell you a product, not give you the dirty reality of said product.

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    does anyone has the feeling that their income graphs are made up? 4 days 38k +- 1% what are the odds?

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    its almost as if people didnt want to spend any more money after the massive sale that went on for the last 2 weeks! and if you notice, it went down from the 2nd to the 3rd, then up on the 4th then 5th after the commercial

    Quote Originally Posted by EvcRo View Post
    but i thought crowdfunded games (especially not released games) don't need marketing ? cause that's why it's crowdfunded , to by pass the evil publishers and marketing stuff.

    if you ask me , the crowdfunded part is the 2.5 mil $ on kickstarter , the rest 98 mil $ is selling game assets (most of the non existant assets in a non existant game) for real cash.

    imo "the biggest crowdfunded game" is just another lie. but it's not that important though.
    and this is why we dont ask you, because almost everything you say has no factual basis whatsoever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    And? It is playable now. They never said anything about the game being bug free, or even launched. They said it's playable, and it is.

    Welcome to marketing, its goal is to sell you a product, not give you the dirty reality of said product.
    but i thought crowdfunded games (especially not released games) don't need marketing ? cause that's why it's crowdfunded , to by pass the evil publishers and marketing stuff.

    if you ask me , the crowdfunded part is the 2.5 mil $ on kickstarter , the rest 98 mil $ is selling game assets (most of the non existant assets in a non existant game) for real cash.

    imo "the biggest crowdfunded game" is just another lie. but it's not that important though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkrulerxxx View Post
    they're "Vetting" procedure consisted of falsified and copied quotes that were posted on a job review site glassdoor that was posted a day before the escapist that was confirmed from a troll. Escapist used a false quote and put it under a "confirmed" source.

    The escapist is a fucking joke.
    You really need to read the timeline for these events again, the Glassdoor stuff occurred after.
    Scenario: After discussing matters with the escapist they then posted to Glassdoor while everything was fresh in their head. That's a perfectly reasonable scenario and very human-like behaviour.

    Quote Originally Posted by masterhorus8 View Post
    They also "confirmed" that they were employees based on name badges, which CIG doesnt issue.
    That occurred for a single source and was only one of the two verification methods used, the other being a payslip iirc. That particular source was rejected anyhow.

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    Anyhow it's done and dusted, Nothing's been retracted, nobody's been sued.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tradewind View Post
    [IMG]http://images.complex.com/complex/image/upload/t_article_image/tyjfhembvnhkewixjtes.jpg[IMG]

    BF4...$100MM+ budget...sold for $60 with bugs on release!

    Oh the humanity! Get over it.
    If we have to get specific, that incident was actually in the BF3 beta. And it was fixed in time for launch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvcRo View Post
    does anyone has the feeling that their income graphs are made up? 4 days 38k +- 1% what are the odds?

    1% of highest value of the graph, so 681399$ is.... 6814$

    Lower value is 38k, so anywhere between 38k and 45k a day won't be visible on the graph, you could maybe see it moving at 52k.
    I say odds are good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvcRo View Post
    but i thought crowdfunded games (especially not released games) don't need marketing ? cause that's why it's crowdfunded , to by pass the evil publishers and marketing stuff.
    That's not why crowdfunding exists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EvcRo View Post
    but i thought crowdfunded games (especially not released games) don't need marketing ? cause that's why it's crowdfunded , to by pass the evil publishers and marketing stuff.
    Who on earth has ever said, or hinted at this? It's not uncommon to see banner adds for games currently on Kickstarter, because you can pay a pretty nominal fee to get some additional visibility. Marketing has no inherent connection to a publisher.

    You have to spend money to make money in crowdfunding, bro.

    Quote Originally Posted by EvcRo View Post
    if you ask me , the crowdfunded part is the 2.5 mil $ on kickstarter , the rest 98 mil $ is selling game assets (most of the non existant assets in a non existant game) for real cash.
    Sure, they basically have a huge cash shop open early. I'm not a fan, but plenty of people are. They're buying things in it to help fund the games development and expand its scope.

    Quote Originally Posted by EvcRo View Post
    imo "the biggest crowdfunded game" is just another lie. but it's not that important though.
    But it is. As far as I know, all their funding has come directly from consumers/fans. You know, "the crowd".

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvcRo View Post
    comparing BF4 at release with SC PRE Alpha Alpha 2.0 is like comparing humans with amoebas.
    I see you've missed the point.
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    You are a legend thats why.

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