[Megathread] Star Citizen

[Majestic12]

By the way, I like how most posters fell dead silent in this thread. Are you just embarassed about the livestream, more concept sales or are you finally realizing that something isn't quite right at CIG?

[stellvia]

Option #4: Tired of refuting the same tired misinformation and constant trolls and negatively-biased posters that don't wish to discuss, but merely rant and cause trouble, so they stopped posting? Turn the thread into cancer and of course nobody wants to get involved anymore.

[Tradewind]

Option #4: Tired of refuting the same tired misinformation and constant trolls and negatively-biased posters that don't wish to discuss, but merely rant and cause trouble, so they stopped posting? Turn the thread into cancer and of course nobody wants to get involved anymore.

Yup lol.

[Omians]

interesting guide for the Maps FPS. but im mostly waiting for the Mining update

[Majestic12]

Option #4: Tired of refuting the same tired misinformation and constant trolls and negatively-biased posters that don't wish to discuss, but merely rant and cause trouble, so they stopped posting? Turn the thread into cancer and of course nobody wants to get involved anymore.

The only thing that is correct is the "negatively-biased poster" bit. Just like you are a positively-biased poster with the majority of this thread. That's not wrong, we are actually entitled to voice negative opinions of the game. CIG is not a perfect company and I think we should call them out on mistakes. Else they won't improve. A prime example of this is how after years of doing livestreams we had the mess of the other day.

The only reason you're ranting about negatively-biased posters and "trolling" is because the content simply doesn't suit your personal agenda. That is SC-whiteknights in a nutshell really, but it doesn't make you right. "Trolling" on this forum and on the SC reddit/forum usually means "I don't like what you're saying". Big difference between that and people who actually aren't being serious and out to cause trouble.

[stellvia]

See, that's the thing: I'm not positively biased, I'm neutral. But since you are negatively-biased you think everyone who isn't also shitting on the game is positively-biased.

[Majestic12]

See, that's the thing: I'm not positively biased, I'm neutral. But since you are negatively-biased you think everyone who isn't also shitting on the game is positively-biased.

I don't buy that you're neutral if you step in and dismiss naysayers as trolls and talking about "misinformation" when it is just truth. You've clearly chosen a camp at that point.

Reading through your post history sheds some light on it:

This situation smells like he-who-shall-not-be-mentioned all over again. When they refuse to acknowledge info that refutes their position and constantly stick to ridiculously outlier viewpoints, then its not a discussion and we should just move on.

The problem is its literally the same misguided rants over and over again from people flying by the thread. And they never come in seeking answers, they come in claiming to "know" what the game is like, then spout off opinions that prove they have no idea what the game is like nor a wish to know. They read someone elses unfounded opinions that reinforced their prejudices and ran with it.

I never cease to get a chuckle out of the hordes of clueless trolls et al that come in here complaining about empty hulls being p2w, vaporware, scams, tiny instances, etc. etc. when they have no idea what they're talking about and basically are wearing their own prejudice on their sleeve because they want to.

So you see, you come off as an anti Derek Smart SC-supporter who is ferociously defending the game/CIG in this thread by generalizing naysayers. Some of who've probably played the game longer than you and have legitimate concerns.

Take a peek at the SC reddit right now or the official forum. I am not alone in being a disgruntled backer at this point, and we're not all trolls. This isn't SomethingAwful, we're real backers who once believed in the game and the company.

[Edge-]

So you see, you come off as an anti Derek Smart

Treating Smart like she attention hungry, shit stirring troll he is has no bearing on what your view of Star Citizen is. He's got a terrible reptuation, and has had for years. And for damn good reason.

[zealo]

I don't buy that you're neutral if you step in and dismiss naysayers as trolls and talking about "misinformation" when it is just truth. You've clearly chosen a camp at that point.

Reading through your post history sheds some light on it:







So you see, you come off as an anti Derek Smart SC-supporter who is ferociously defending the game/CIG in this thread by generalizing naysayers. Some of who've probably played the game longer than you and have legitimate concerns.

Take a peek at the SC reddit right now or the official forum. I am not alone in being a disgruntled backer at this point, and we're not all trolls. This isn't SomethingAwful, we're real backers who once believed in the game and the company.

People should be lighting a fire under their asses for that kind of god awful stream.

That said, the reason why people stop coming to this thread very often have more to do with there being posters in this thread for years now who don't understand the difference between being neutral/sceptical whether they can do it, and actively wanting it to crash and burn. You can guess which category Derek falls into. He's a troll out to provoke people and grasp at straws for attention.

[Majestic12]

Treating Smart like she attention hungry, shit stirring troll he is has no bearing on what your view of Star Citizen is. He's got a terrible reptuation, and has had for years. And for damn good reason.

Yep, he is a known and experienced troll since the Usenet days. I think it was a mistake for CIG to even respond to him in the first place. Derek Smart's name is now forever tied to the SC project no matter if it succeeds or fails. He's basically made sure that whatever happens, he'll win.

[Rennadrel]

Netcode is still the default Cryengine one which is fine for testing. They will change it in 3.0 finally, so it will be much better hopefully.

I haven't played a CryEngine game where netcode hasn't been an issue for online play. I hope they can do something better, because from what I have experienced with other online games using it, they have been very inconsistent to downright terrible.

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I don't buy that you're neutral if you step in and dismiss naysayers as trolls and talking about "misinformation" when it is just truth. You've clearly chosen a camp at that point.

Reading through your post history sheds some light on it:







So you see, you come off as an anti Derek Smart SC-supporter who is ferociously defending the game/CIG in this thread by generalizing naysayers. Some of who've probably played the game longer than you and have legitimate concerns.

Take a peek at the SC reddit right now or the official forum. I am not alone in being a disgruntled backer at this point, and we're not all trolls. This isn't SomethingAwful, we're real backers who once believed in the game and the company.

Derek Smart strokes his own balls over his own games but even the biggest noob gamer's would agree that the garbage he calls video games that he has made are outright terrible. He even succeeds in being viewed in a worse light for broken promises and making shitty products than the developers of No Man's Sky, which is pretty fucking amazing if you ask me. The fact that I'd view that miserable waste of money called NMS in a much more positive light than that pile of shit he called Line of Defense is a hard pill to swallow, but anyone with a brain would agree that LoD looks like a god damn N64 game and has about as much gameplay depth as E.T from the Atari.

[Malibutomi]

I haven't played a CryEngine game where netcode hasn't been an issue for online play. I hope they can do something better, because from what I have experienced with other online games using it, they have been very inconsistent to downright terrible.

well i can totally understand that it was fine to test the basic mechanics, and especially to measure what is needed for the gameplay, so they could write their own based on the experience.

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BTW: SC graphics are nothing outstanding right?


Note the helmet HUD visible from the outside

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Parking Merlin in Starfarers belly, then quantum jump:



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Apparently the physics grids are now pretty stable in 2.6

As of now more and more great things surface about 2.6, people are actually amazed by those, so well done CIG.

[Tackhisis]

BTW: SC graphics are nothing outstanding right?

That is not "SC" graphics, it is Unity 3D graphics.

[masterhorus8]

That is not "SC" graphics, it is Unity 3D graphics.

It is (was) actually CryEngine, not Unity. But they've updated it, so it's not really CryEngine anymore, now called StarEngine

[Aeluron Lightsong]

I don't think many people questioned Star Citizen's graphical output.

[Malibutomi]

I don't think many people questioned Star Citizen's graphical output.

Many said its nothing special. Just "maybe" above average.
Apparently 2.6 brought many graphical updates as well.





I think its everyones personal opinion. Imho it looks better in game than many games in the cutscenes.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

It looks pretty damn good in my opinion. Maybe it's just me, certainly looks better then most games(IMO) but SC shouldn't just bank on that anyways.

[Malibutomi]

It looks pretty damn good in my opinion. Maybe it's just me, certainly looks better then most games(IMO) but SC shouldn't just bank on that anyways.

Well personally what appeals to me is the kinda oldschool approach. What i mean by that, the old games which wasn't rushed out, always had attention to detail, everywhere you go you could find something interesting, or just a mechanic which was not necessary to complete the game, but it was interesting, and you could see they really put time and effort to make the game, not just the core mechanics, and done.
Example from SC, the working pool table in Star Marine, or that some guy started doing shadow play on the wall with the hand signals, or the little decals / funny notes at many places.

[Deleted]

i see Roberts is still at what he does best, stealing art from other games

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen...h_on_this_one/

[Omians]

i see Roberts is still at what he does best, stealing art from other games

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen...h_on_this_one/

you mean the people that put together the concept art stealing artwork and slapping it together with other images

im sure he gets to give the Ok to put these concept arts out but i doubt the guy will notice the Halo armor and Gun

Edit: and looking at the name Victor Martinez, he has a lot of Concept artwork out there that are just photoshoped artwork by the looks of it

http://io9.gizmodo.com/5847701/desig...-of-real-steel
dunno if this is his but it comes up when you search his name http://i.imgur.com/BlcrLGI.jpg