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    Quote Originally Posted by Odeezee View Post
    LMAO, talk about being completely disingenuous. to anyone that has actually been watching and not biased af. you know that the shows are actually MUCH better for content than the way the shows used to be and they give more sneak peaks and in-depth info on systems. i get that you are not a fan of SC, but why create falsehoods (i highly doubt you were EVER a sub) to then use to create a Strawman argument? your point of view can't stand up on its own seeing as it's driven purely by conjecture and speculation, huh? /sigh

    anyway, to those of you interested in SC and actually helping to give feedback, i found this poll on Reddit that you may want to participate in about the flight feel in 2.6.0

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    All right, I'll bite.

    They explicitly stated that sub money goes exclusively to those shows mentioned, including the end-of-year stream. I cancelled my sub after the stream because it was horrendous. If you're honestly here to say that the quality has been up to par, I don't know what to say. Though if you look back in this thread, you'll see me predicting people like you the moment the stream was aired. I knew you'd eventually come and pretend like it wasn't an issue and like the sub money was worth it.

    If you honestly don't care about the quality of the community content, then say that and don't dance around the bush by pretending everything has been fine. If you say that you don't care about quality and only want the flair then I can accept that, but don't lie.

    You're exhibiting cult-like behaviour by ferociously defending everything CIG does like it is your life. Sunk cost fallacy at its finest.

    By the way, I did you a favour:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen...ng_the_two_qa/

    These people are cancelling their subs now and they're not alone. Let me guess, we're all trolls/goons/whatever floats your boat. I bet you clicked your mouse like you've never done before trying to downvote those posts.

    Yeah, you're not convincing anyone but the cultists buddy. We're here with legitimate concerns. Deal with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majestic12 View Post
    All right, I'll bite.

    They explicitly stated that sub money goes exclusively to those shows mentioned, including the end-of-year stream. I cancelled my sub after the stream because it was horrendous. If you're honestly here to say that the quality has been up to par, I don't know what to say. Though if you look back in this thread, you'll see me predicting people like you the moment the stream was aired. I knew you'd eventually come and pretend like it wasn't an issue and like the sub money was worth it.

    If you honestly don't care about the quality of the community content, then say that and don't dance around the bush by pretending everything has been fine. If you say that you don't care about quality and only want the flair then I can accept that, but don't lie.

    You're exhibiting cult-like behaviour by ferociously defending everything CIG does like it is your life. Sunk cost fallacy at its finest.

    By the way, I did you a favour:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen...ng_the_two_qa/

    These people are cancelling their subs now and they're not alone. Let me guess, we're all trolls/goons/whatever floats your boat. I bet you clicked your mouse like you've never done before trying to downvote those posts.

    Yeah, you're not convincing anyone but the cultists buddy. We're here with legitimate concerns. Deal with it.
    do what you will with your money, but you obviously cannot read as i have no issue with what you do with your money, my issue is with whether you were even subbed given your attitude towards the project and this is the internet so you can say w/e you want, i just won't believe it without proof.

    i can also see that English may not be your forte as you clearly lack a nuanced understanding of words written and infer the complete opposite meaning from what was written. i say that the shows have improved and you take that as me not caring about the quality of the community content and that i am pretending everything is fine. you urge me "not to lie", yet the quality of the shows are demonstrably better and you are the one actually lying saying they have gotten worse. if you cannot even be truthful about that and think that the game is doomed to fail then you should ask for a refund, because your bias is clouding your ability to even have an honest dialogue.

    then you say that "i am exhibiting cult-like behavior by ferociously defending everything CIG does like it's my life. sunk cost fallacy at it's finest", huh? the level of hypocrisy and the irony of your statements are hilarious. you think that just because i oppose your views on SC that i cannot critique the game and am thus a cultist? you exhibit very strange logic. tbh, i don't care what other people do with their money, it's their decision but i guess you cannot offer them the same courtesy and go around calling them cultists, just because they like something you do not? you are steeped in such irony. my issue is with people, like you, who spread misinformation and exhibit abhorrent misunderstanding of actual information and then choose to create logical fallacies and Strawman arguments in order to negatively influence peoples actions and opinions. that is all.

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    New screenshots taken from the upcoming Gamestar magazine look into Star Citizen/Squadron 42 goals for 2017 taken from this thread https://as.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/...om_the_german/






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    Ooooh, that last picture is interesting.
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    Did they fix the flight model yet? or still in "We have no idea what direction to take it" mode?
    Content drought is a combination of catchup mechanics and no new content.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daffan View Post
    Did they fix the flight model yet? or still in "We have no idea what direction to take it" mode?
    Depends on your definition of "fixed", but they slowed things down in 2.6. Regardless, expecting it to not change at this point in development is kind of unrealistic. I mean, the flight model is indeed based on Newtonian Physics, with a limitation on max speed, and that's not changing. All that's adjusted (this last one was due to bigger ships getting added/more common and accounting for max speed/acceleration) is the acceleration/max speed.
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    Do they have any screenshots or footage of forests and stuff in game? All I've seen so far have been relatively barren worlds. Not that that's a bad thing but I'd like to see a bit more variety.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoNineMarine View Post
    Do they have any screenshots or footage of forests and stuff in game? All I've seen so far have been relatively barren worlds. Not that that's a bad thing but I'd like to see a bit more variety.
    Was a demo video a little while ago that showed a bit more procedural stuff for planets.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTGJOC0stus

    Not exactly dense forests or anything, but you can see foliage etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tradewind View Post
    Was a demo video a little while ago that showed a bit more procedural stuff for planets.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTGJOC0stus

    Not exactly dense forests or anything, but you can see foliage etc.
    Ok cool. I'll take a look. Thank you!

    I do hope that they are able to generate full on forests. Barren planets get boring to me after a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoNineMarine View Post
    Ok cool. I'll take a look. Thank you!

    I do hope that they are able to generate full on forests. Barren planets get boring to me after a while.
    they managed to have a complete sandstorm functioning very well in the demo, from what i have seen in videos they are going to generate full worlds with multiple ecosystems acting as one, while there will be planets that are the same throughout there will be many planets similar to earth, they are customising each planet, its not just fully relying on planet gen tech, we should see many dfferent planets throughout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenn9530 View Post
    they managed to have a complete sandstorm functioning very well in the demo, from what i have seen in videos they are going to generate full worlds with multiple ecosystems acting as one, while there will be planets that are the same throughout there will be many planets similar to earth, they are customising each planet, its not just fully relying on planet gen tech, we should see many dfferent planets throughout.
    Which is definitely my hope and based off of what I've seen of this team they are the ones to do it. I've just had my hopes dashed so many times. Hard to keep the dream alive.

    The sandstorm looked good too. Definitely looked like what we had to deal with in Iraq.
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  13. #3793
    Another setback for SC today with the production schedule update. Even that one is optimistic.

    It is pretty official by now, CIG is fighting against time. Dual Universe and other similar games will start buckling CIG's armor. Then IF Star Citizen releases, it will just be a subpar game.

    I think you folks are in for a huge disappointment.

  14. #3794
    Quote Originally Posted by Majestic12 View Post
    Another setback for SC today with the production schedule update. Even that one is optimistic.

    It is pretty official by now, CIG is fighting against time. Dual Universe and other similar games will start buckling CIG's armor. Then IF Star Citizen releases, it will just be a subpar game.

    I think you folks are in for a huge disappointment.
    Yeah we know, as Elite, as NMS, as COD:IW all wrecked SC (not). All different games.

  15. #3795
    Quote Originally Posted by Malibutomi View Post
    Yeah we know, as Elite, as NMS, as COD:IW all wrecked SC (not). All different games.
    Dual Universe is the one unreleased game that'll compete with Star Citizen directly. By the way, with "Star Citizen" I don't mean SQ42. I don't particularily care about SQ42 and didn't back for that in particular.(And I'm far from alone in that regard.) I mean Star Citizen the MMO-esque game. So even mentioning COD and NMS(lol) doesn't do much.

    Mind, that Dual Universe didn't even begin until the huge cryout for such a game was proven with SC's kickstarter. It's clear as day that they're aiming for that market.

    E.D is competing with Star Citizen though already. They share many things in common in terms of gameplay. In fact, I'd bet lots of SC backers are currently playing E.D simply for the fact that it's the closest thing available that resembles SC.

    And honestly? I'm not so sure everyone will "move over" to SC if the game mechanics disappoint. We'll have to see, but time is ticking.

  16. #3796
    Quote Originally Posted by Majestic12 View Post
    Dual Universe is the one unreleased game that'll compete with Star Citizen directly. By the way, with "Star Citizen" I don't mean SQ42. I don't particularily care about SQ42 and didn't back for that in particular.(And I'm far from alone in that regard.) I mean Star Citizen the MMO-esque game. So even mentioning COD and NMS(lol) doesn't do much.

    Mind, that Dual Universe didn't even begin until the huge cryout for such a game was proven with SC's kickstarter. It's clear as day that they're aiming for that market.

    E.D is competing with Star Citizen though already. They share many things in common in terms of gameplay. In fact, I'd bet lots of SC backers are currently playing E.D simply for the fact that it's the closest thing available that resembles SC.

    And honestly? I'm not so sure everyone will "move over" to SC if the game mechanics disappoint. We'll have to see, but time is ticking.
    while dual and SC are similar the core gameplay will be different, dual will have a large portion of content on building and farming materials, the reason SC is taking so long is the amount of detail going into everything, no other game comes close to the quality in everything they are putting into the game.

    Dual will be a game for mostly people who like to build things, where SC is focused on the experience, will probably try dual but my main game is still going to be SC and can still play both depending on your mood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majestic12 View Post
    Another setback for SC today with the production schedule update. Even that one is optimistic.

    It is pretty official by now, CIG is fighting against time. Dual Universe and other similar games will start buckling CIG's armor. Then IF Star Citizen releases, it will just be a subpar game.

    I think you folks are in for a huge disappointment.
    Fortunately I didn't come for the MMORPG; I came for the campaign mode, and I have no doubt that CIG will deliver on that.

  18. #3798
    Quote Originally Posted by Majestic12 View Post
    Dual Universe is the one unreleased game that'll compete with Star Citizen directly. By the way, with "Star Citizen" I don't mean SQ42. I don't particularily care about SQ42 and didn't back for that in particular.(And I'm far from alone in that regard.) I mean Star Citizen the MMO-esque game. So even mentioning COD and NMS(lol) doesn't do much.

    Mind, that Dual Universe didn't even begin until the huge cryout for such a game was proven with SC's kickstarter. It's clear as day that they're aiming for that market.

    E.D is competing with Star Citizen though already. They share many things in common in terms of gameplay. In fact, I'd bet lots of SC backers are currently playing E.D simply for the fact that it's the closest thing available that resembles SC.

    And honestly? I'm not so sure everyone will "move over" to SC if the game mechanics disappoint. We'll have to see, but time is ticking.
    Honestly saying SC will be a subpar game and bringing Dual Universe as an example seems stupid to me. At least as it is looks now DU will compete NMS not SC, both graphics and gameplay wise. Minecraft in space style, while SC is a more traditional MMO, mixing SWG and WC.

  19. #3799
    Quote Originally Posted by Malibutomi View Post
    Honestly saying SC will be a subpar game and bringing Dual Universe as an example seems stupid to me. At least as it is looks now DU will compete NMS not SC, both graphics and gameplay wise. Minecraft in space style, while SC is a more traditional MMO, mixing SWG and WC.
    Don't get me wrong, the graphics of SC are good and it is one of its strongest points. But for me personally game mechanics matter more than graphics. What I mean when I say that SC will be a subpar game is that it simply won't be that technically amazing anymore by the time it releases.

    As you may have seen I am one of the backers who became rather disgruntled over the years. With the recent update to the production schedule, I think I'll just sign off the RSI forum for about 6 months. Long story short, my faith in Chris Roberts And Sandi Roberts is no more.

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    Nope, totally haven't noticed you're a disgruntled backer as you reply 3x a page reminding everyone and shitposting.

    The timeline is never going to be exact as its a game in development. With other games you just never know about the setbacks and revisions to the schedule, because you don't find out about that stuff until beta.
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