1. #4681
    Squardron 42 is FAR from release because to do so it needs a finished engine, flight system, world building ect. It, like SC itself, is in pre-alpha.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    It's not coming out in 2017, despite Roberts comments back in 2016 to GameStar that indicated that mid-late 2017 was the most recent target for release after it missed its 2016 release window.
    I think Gorsameth may be referring that you said that it is going to be out in 2017.
    Squadron 42 is going to be out in 2017.
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  3. #4683
    I think Edge meant to say "NOT going to be out in 2017" based on the rest of his comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by masterhorus8 View Post
    I think Gorsameth may be referring that you said that it is going to be out in 2017.
    Ah, yay for pre-coffee spelling mistakes! Fixt, thanks for the heads up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rennadrel View Post
    I have never once thought he was lying. His expectations have been way off the mark, that doesn't make him a liar though. He wouldn't assemble a 300+ man dev team to make a game not to deliver. Yeah, I am annoyed that 3.0 has seen over a year of delays, but there is more than enough tangible shit shown off week to week to at least see that progress is being made.
    I don't think he lied about creating a game. I think the developers and artists at CIG and F42 are working very hard trying to create the game we want despite being attached to the blocker that is Chris Roberts.

    I do believe that Chris Roberts DID lie about the release date for 3.0. He got up on stage in August and proudly proclaimed to one and all that 3.0 was to be the big EoY release for 2016.

    Development on 3.0 started months later. 3.0 wasn't even in production at the time he got up on stage.

    I think he is incompetent as a project manager...he's failed enough basic tasks that I think that is true...but do I think he is incompetent enough to give a release date without so much as checking in on his team and confirming that they were at least working on it? No. I don't.

    So either I am wrong and he is that incompetent, or he knew there was zero chance of 3.0 being finished as promised, meaning he lied. He wouldn't have just stretched the truth...he would have lied. And the only reason I can see for him to lie, would be to keep the excitement rolling, to forestall questions over the delays, to keep the money flowing.

    If you want to argue that he is being honest, but incompetent - that doesn't bother me. But I don't see how it would make you or any other backer more comfortable.

    Neither possibility affects me. I have not backed the game. I am not going to....not because I am not interested, but because I have zero faith in CIGs ability to deliver, at least so long as Chris Roberts is in charge. Yes - 3.0 showed some progress. 3.0 is also being released with many of the promised features missing and a bug fixing process that largely came down to "shift it to 3.1". We have progress - but for ten months work...that isn't a lot of progress at all.

    But whatever happens, **I** am not going to lose any money over this. And I think anyone who has pledged more than $60 or so to back this needs to reconsider.
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    well, when the game launches you will be able to build colonies with it so worth every penny imo

    also limited edition, they can't print to many.
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    850 dolars.....realy?
    Don't sweat the details!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yunru View Post
    850 dolars.....realy?
    Artificial rarity is a thing.
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    "limited quantity" mystery solved

    Someone on Reddit pointed out that if it's being sold in limited quantities then you can't use store credit to buy it. Suddenly it all makes a lot more sense.

    you can't use credits from melted old ships, only new shinny dollars they hungry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iseeyou View Post
    Do we have more info on that 850$ thing?

    Is it the game changer ship?!

    We need a trailer a something
    Supposedly it is the "game changer". Being able to build colonies on planets and some such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by masterhorus8 View Post
    Supposedly it is the "game changer". Being able to build colonies on planets and some such.
    *cough*Money grab*cough*

    Sorry, had something stuck in my throat there.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myobi View Post
    You know that something is srly wrong when an in-game space ship value is higher than your country’s minimum wage.
    Soooo...higher than 7.25 USD?
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  13. #4693
    $850.... I feel like this shit has gotta be a contender for most expensive item sold in a video game (especially for a game that isn't even out...)

    It just feels insulting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Post View Post
    $850.... I feel like this shit has gotta be a contender for most expensive item sold in a video game (especially for a game that isn't even out...)

    It just feels insulting.
    Nah, 5th most expensive within SC alone.
    http://starcitizen.wikia.com/wiki/Li...vehicle_prices

    Also, fun article to read.
    https://www.g2g.com/blog/5-online-ga...virtual-items/
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    Quote Originally Posted by masterhorus8 View Post
    1. Entropia Universe

    Entropia is an enigma in the gaming world. Players, rich players, spend a few hundred thousand dollars for virtual items in the game. This isn’t even an exaggeration. Some players even spend millions for their own virtual planet.

    A few of the items, aside from the two listed above, that have sold for massive amounts in Entropia Universe, include:

    $150,000 for Monria
    $99,000 for a banking license

    Just check out these figures.

    We’re talking massive money for these in-game items or worlds. The funny part is that many buyers are groups of investors.

    But nothing beats the sale of Planet Calypso in 2011. The entire virtual planet sold for $6 million USD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Post View Post
    I'm done. Going to sleep and hopefully not waking up.
    Also, my point wasn't to say that these ships aren't expensive (they are and I almost question some peoples' willingness to drop that much at once), just that you reminded me about some of the actual ridiculous shit people have dropped money on.
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  17. #4697
    Quote Originally Posted by EvcRo View Post
    you can't use credits from melted old ships, only new shinny dollars they hungry
    Yep. One of my bigger pet peeves with SC's model. They basically value new money more over money we already invested into the game.

    Warbonds and special editions fucking suck. Originally, SC was a genuine project with financial accountability in the TOS. When it was time to put the financials out, CIG wasn't interested anymore. Then later, Warbonds came. It is basically an insult to everyone who spent money on the game and even enabled SC to happen.

    SC is all a numbers game now. Chris could have maintained his integrity but he just nutted up. Makes you wonder what he is really afraid of people finding out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majestic12 View Post
    Yep. One of my bigger pet peeves with SC's model. They basically value new money more over money we already invested into the game.

    Warbonds and special editions fucking suck. Originally, SC was a genuine project with financial accountability in the TOS. When it was time to put the financials out, CIG wasn't interested anymore. Then later, Warbonds came. It is basically an insult to everyone who spent money on the game and even enabled SC to happen.

    SC is all a numbers game now. Chris could have maintained his integrity but he just nutted up. Makes you wonder what he is really afraid of people finding out.
    Ofc they value new money, they need income to pay for their development. Can't do that with recycled ship money that they already spend on a motion capture studio.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

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    $850 starting?...

    That's so patently absurd, I can't even fathom his this is viewed as reasonable or acceptable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    $850 starting?...

    That's so patently absurd, I can't even fathom his this is viewed as reasonable or acceptable.
    My bet is that it'll be $1000 if it's sold again, since this is only the preview sale.
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