[Megathread] Star Citizen

[DarkAmbient]

I've been playing it for years now. In case you havent notices there's been a playable version for some time now.

Not a "gotcha" question, I genuinely want to know: What can you do in the game now, in terms of fully implemented, fully fleshed out content?

[Kyanion]

Name one that you think isn't. According to that posters definition, I bet I can give examples on how it is.

I don't know why this is the hill you want to die on, but sure. There are many definitions of p2w and some generally accepted ones. It really isn't worth fighting over.

[PosPosPos]

Name one that you think isn't. According to that posters definition, I bet I can give examples on how it is.

You can stop right there if you are referring to RMT transactions which are classified illegal according to most MMO's ToS.

[Piglord]

I don't know why this is the hill you want to die on, but sure. There are many definitions of p2w and some generally accepted ones. It really isn't worth fighting over.

I don't care what the other definitions are. Just the one from the poster I originally quoted. That person had such a broad definition that just about every modern mmo falls under it.

[PosPosPos]

I don't care what the other definitions are. Just the one from the poster I originally quoted. That person had such a broad definition that just about every modern mmo falls under it.

So most modern mmos have some form of p2w, that's somehow justifying the presence of p2w at all?

P2W apologists like you are one of the biggest reasons why the P2W cancer exists at all.

[MrAnderson]

Not a "gotcha" question, I genuinely want to know: What can you do in the game now, in terms of fully implemented, fully fleshed out content?

Dogfighting, Multicrew and FPS gameplay


Mining


Cargo Hauling


Delivery Missions


Bounty Hunting


Investigation


& Racing

In short those are the main things now, for a more in depth info I recommend Morphologis videos:


With that shown I don't recommend buying in if you expect a "finished and polished" experience. The game is in heavy development, bugs and glitches along with constant updates and new features are added every 3 months. The wait and see is the best approach if one isin't interest in paying to test while supporting development. Game probably wont get much more expensive than what already is (45$) unless you went for the Christmas deal packages that I think already sold out.

[Piglord]

P2W apologists like you are one of the biggest reasons why the P2W cancer exists at all.

How the hell did you pull that out of your ass? I'm by far a pay to win apologist. I was quoting one person that had a definition that covered just about every mmo out there. Try and keep up.

[PosPosPos]

How the hell did you pull that out of your ass? I'm by far a pay to win apologist. I was quoting one person that had a definition that covered just about every mmo out there. Try and keep up.

And yet you are here pushing the envelope on the "everyone does p2w, so nobody is p2w" narrative.

But apparently, pointing out you are blatantly shilling for p2w is pulling it "out of my ass". If you are not an apologist like you allegedly profess, it would be far more effective not acting like one.

[Piglord]

And yet you are here pushing the envelope on the "everyone does p2w, so nobody is p2w" narrative.

But apparently, pointing out you are blatantly shilling for p2w is pulling it "out of my ass". If you are not an apologist like you allegedly profess, it would be far more effective not acting like one.

I can understand if English isn't your first language, so I will break it down more simply. I. Do. Not. Support. Pay. To. Win. I. Was. Quoting. Another. Poster. That. Had. A. Definition. That. Covered. Just. About. Every. Mmo. Out. There. Is that better?

[DarkAmbient]

In short those are the main things now, for a more in depth info I recommend Morphologis videos

Thanks, I will check those out later.

[PosPosPos]

I can understand if English isn't your first language, so I will break it down more simply. I. Do. Not. Support. Pay. To. Win. I. Was. Quoting. Another. Poster. That. Had. A. Definition. That. Covered. Just. About. Every. Mmo. Out. There. Is that better?

So, you admit are pushing the "everyone does p2w, so nobody is p2w" narrative like I said earlier.

Doesn't seem like it's a problem with my understanding, but your defensive denial when confronted about your repulsive p2w apologism.

[Piglord]

So, you admit are pushing the "everyone does p2w, so nobody is p2w" narrative like I said earlier.

Doesn't seem like it's a problem with my understanding, but your defensive denial when confronted about your repulsive p2w apologism.

Again, I did not say that. The other poster did. Since you are going to continue to put words in my mouth, you can continue to have this conversation in your head, but by yourself.

[PosPosPos]

Again, I did not say that. The other poster did. Since you are going to continue to put words in my mouth, you can continue to have this conversation in your head, but by yourself.

How did you not say literally just that?

You are basically saying that, because most MMOs fall under the widely accepted definition of P2W, it's not P2W. Unfortunately, it just means more game developers are putting p2w elements in their games, and not that their actions are whitewashed by the presence of something worse.

Just looks like you don't have the balls to own up to what you apologize for, whether out of shame or self-deception.

[Piglord]

How did you not say literally just that?

You are basically saying that, because most MMOs fall under the widely accepted definition of P2W, it's not P2W. Unfortunately, it just means more game developers are putting p2w elements in their games, and not that their actions are whitewashed by the presence of something worse.

Just looks like you don't have the balls to own up to what you apologize for, whether out of shame or self-deception.

Quote me where I said literally that. I'll wait. Oh right, you won't be able to, because I didn't.

[PosPosPos]

Quote me where I said literally that. I'll wait. Oh right, you won't be able to, because I didn't.

Oh cute, the "technically you are slightly off on this irrelevant detail so you must be completely wrong" defense. Right down there at the bottom of the barrel with the "every MMO is p2w so there's no p2w" apologism you are pushing here. What's next? "I support p2w, but it doesn't mean I am a p2w supporter"?

But apparently, I am the one pulling out of my ass.

[Piglord]

Oh cute, the "technically you are slightly off on this irrelevant detail" defense. Right up there with the "every MMO is p2w so there's no p2w" apologism you are pushing here.

But apparently, I am the one pulling out of my ass.

So, I didn't literally say that. Gotcha, it is perfectly ok to admit when you are wrong. Unfortunately, I know you will continue to claim I said things I did not, so I am done with you.

[PosPosPos]

So, I didn't literally say that. Gotcha, it is perfectly ok to admit when you are wrong. Unfortunately, I know you will continue to claim I said things I did not, so I am done with you.

It was a rephrase without changing the meaning whatsoever. But something tells me you will just harp on semantics, because you clearly don't have the guts or spine to stand by what you really believe in.

But it's ok, the fact you are doubling down on this line of intellectual dishonest already gives me the win in this argument by default. You can continue sticking your fingers in your ears screaming "nyeh nyeh" if it makes you feel better about being wrong. Here, I will be kind and even give you the last word, that's what you are obsessed about, eh?

[Rennadrel]

I can't name a single online game is that doesn't have some sort of pay to win or pay for an advantage, early access to content or pay to make the game easier. Pretty much every game in the last I'd say 8 years at least, has had some form of cash advantage system. Star Citizen is no different than any other big budget title by any other major developer in recent years that has done it.

[Kyanion]

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As usual Myobi you nailed it. Star Citizen isn't a normal game. It is beyond your mortal comprehension of the word 'game'.

[Rennadrel]

This thread has become a fucking dumpster fire of shitposting. No one gives a flying fuck for your hate erection for SC Myobi and PosPosPos, do us a favour and fuck off if you have nothing constructive to say that isn't a bunch of bitching about things that don't affect you at all. We don't expect this to be a bloody hug box but the amount of constant derailing of any attempt at discussion on topics about the game gets derailed. Can't even talk about a patch without you assholes coming into this thread and shitting on the game for a dozen pages at a time.