[Megathread] Star Citizen

[kenn9530]

Statistical data to prove that, especially compared to Star Citizen. Retraction of statement in case of lacking said data.

Most of the playerbase is PC, of 1.3 million that bought horizons only 200k are from console players, steam charts are around 9k players so even if that was the same on both consoles thats still a very small playbase actually still playing.

SC has already stated it has 30k players on average each day with 100k each day when an event is active.

Nearly everything you say is BS.

Subjectivity paraded as fact coupled with a complete unwillingness to support any of your claims.

Your sole purpose in this thread is to start fights to deflect from criticizm of Star Citizen.

Your words mean nothing if you cant even be bothered to attempt to back them up.

LOL!....oh, you're serious about this?

Everyone else has to back up their claims, but not you.

Wow, you're proving yet again why nearly every person in this thread thinks you're a joke.

I wish I could say that I wouldn't waste anymore time on you, but you're honestly entertaining, like a puppy....that doesn't know people are happy and laughing at it because it's acting ridiculous.

Its just simple logic, dont claim something is false without backing you claim up first.

[notaltacc]

I have yet to be proven that anything i have said is even remotely classed as BS, im not going to bother with responses if they cant be bothered to back up what they say, if they claim BS and provide something at least tangable then and only then will they get an appropriate reply.

That's also false. Plenty of people have proven you to be full of shit trough out the thread.

You just always pretend that nothing happened, you avoid addressing any of it and just shift the discussion to yet another pile of bullshit.

…In fact, you proven yourself in multiple instances to be full of shit, and truth is that you can’t even keep your massive amount of bullshit together.

For example, on the topic of the “release date”:

CiG have stated it since the beginning that they wont release a game unless they are happy with it, they will not sacrifice things to just release it for the sake of it.

there has been a released version of the game for 5 years

no game is a full released game, a game is always missing something, there is a version of the game that has been out for years, it doesnt matter if it is missing certain systems that would be in the official launch of the game or not, fact is there is a game you can play.

The game is not released yet so it doesnt matter what the server cap is

There is a released game its called the PU, doesnt matter if its not complete its still a game you can play now.

Would you rather Star Citizen release with only the basics of gameplay and have no depth or wait longer to have a more complete game with everything it should have from the start.

SC is an MMO so you tell me what MMO is complete and never gets new features or updates unless the game is essentially dead, in reality SC doesnt need a release date because at a certain point the PU will have everything it needs to be considered ready.

It’s not released. It was released years ago. No game is ever released. The game is not released. The game is released. The game hasn’t yet released, but has more than games that have been released already, but still only has the basics… and that pretty much sums up your entire post history in this thread, you are just all over the fucking place.

You’ll just spew whatever it feels convenient at the time.

You shit on people for saying this and that about Star Citizen, but you have no issue doing to other video games.

You demand proof when you never provide any yourself.

To be completely honest, I’m still having a hard time to understand if this is a mental issue problem, or if you are just one of the best trolls I ever seen, if so, fucking props to you my dude.

[masterblaster0]

When only a small margin still plays then that alone proves the game has no real replayablility

Your words mean nothing if you cant even be bothered to attempt to back them up.

Once again you damn yourself with your own words.

You throw wild claims out there and purport them as fact while never providing any evidence to support them despite also claiming words mean nothing without any support. You want to hold two opposing opinions at the same time and I believe there is a medical term for that.

[Katchii]

Its just simple logic, dont claim something is false without backing you claim up first.

That is not how logic works you clown.

Not to mention, you are and have been doing exactly what you claim to be against. So...I'm really not inclined to believe anything you say on the subject, or any subject for that matter.

[kenn9530]

Once again you damn yourself with your own words.

You throw wild claims out there and purport them as fact while never providing any evidence to support them despite also claiming words mean nothing without any support. You want to hold two opposing opinions at the same time and I believe there is a medical term for that.

You have yet to provide one simple piece of data to prove me otherwise, i even supplied numbers easily findable on my last comment and you still claim i provided nothing, if you cant even be bothered to do research before you post then your not even worth responding to.

That is not how logic works you clown.

Not to mention, you are and have been doing exactly what you claim to be against. So...I'm really not inclined to believe anything you say on the subject, or any subject for that matter.

Im not the one that claimed BS first so if your yet to provide data to back yourself up then its not up to me to do the work for you, thats simple logic. Why should i dignify anyone with a response when they are too lazy to back themselves up in the first place.

Use simple logic, if you claim something is BS/ a lie then you have to prove it first.

[Kyanion]

You refuse to back up your words and just claim everything i say is BS, the hypocrisy is actually 100% on you

Man the amount of times you call something BS when it isn't actually BS is really enlightening. That post a few above yours really shows it.

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Didnt say ED was a bad game just it gets boring very fast

How fast is very fast? 100 hours in?

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Its common sense if you claim something is BS you should back your claim up first, its pretty clear most posters in this thread care little about constructive posts. Star Citizen is rarely discussed as a game.

Yeah because the discussion is totally one sided on your end. You spout opinions and claim they are 'facts' when that is laughable. Even some of the Anti-SC people can be positive about some aspects of the game while being largely negative. You on the other hand? Fanatical support of ANYTHING SC does and refuse to criticize ANY aspect of it. That is paid shilling or true fanaticism at work.

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A few ppl moaning about irrelevant things

Mhmm being concerned about a game being this many years in development which this much money involved and there is no released game to be had, SQ42 vanished off the road map and is not talked about. So irrelevant.

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The only place where actual discussions are worthwhile are on the official spectrum forum.

You mean the same forums that have invested backers dunking on the game and making jokes at SC because of how badly they mismanage the game? That forum?

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This thread is just a pissing contest from players who for some reason either hate SC as a game or hate the company, and the posters who support the project no matter what.

This forum has people that would never back the game because they see what a shit show it is and have no problem pointing out the fanatical cultists or paid shills when they see them you mean?

[masterblaster0]

You have yet to provide one simple piece of data to prove me otherwise, i even supplied numbers easily findable on my last comment and you still claim i provided nothing, if you cant even be bothered to do research before you post then your not even worth responding to.

The last few pages of your replies are you refusing to provide any support for your claims and insisting everyone else has to. Now you provide a single example and you are acting like you were in the right all along. More bullshit from the biggest bullshitter.

Your analysis of numbers is just as bullshit as everything else.

You are comparing a day's total against an hourly concurrent.

Absolutely absurd.

[Kyanion]

I have yet to be proven that anything i have said is even remotely classed as BS

I now know what the biggest BS is in the entire thread. That statement right there.

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When only a small margin still plays then that alone proves the game has no real replayablility, lacks depth or any really interesting gameplay mechanics, ED offers a simple space experience and most players want much more than that.

Uh oh, I smell a BS statement. SC is a small margin that still plays, btw.

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LOL!....oh, you're serious about this?

Everyone else has to back up their claims, but not you.

Yeah he doesn't have to do it because he is either a fanatical cultist or a paid shill. How he gets away with it on these forums blows my mind.

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Your sole purpose in this thread is to start fights to deflect from criticizm of Star Citizen.

Don't forget to try and sucker people into falling into the money vortex that is SC. They always need more people to toss money at the 'game'.

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What's the gamer delusion equivalent of a tin foil hat? He must have quite a collection of whatever those are.

You know that is a great question, what WOULD that be called?

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It’s not released. It was released years ago. No game is ever released. The game is not released. The game is released. The game hasn’t yet released, but has more than games that have been released already, but still only has the basics… and that pretty much sums up your entire post history in this thread, you are just all over the fucking place.

You’ll just spew whatever it feels convenient at the time.

You shit on people for saying this and that about Star Citizen, but you have no issue doing to other video games.

You demand proof when you never provide any yourself.

To be completely honest, I’m still having a hard time to understand if this is a mental issue problem, or if you are just one of the best trolls I ever seen, if so, fucking props to you my dude.

I dunno who you are but damn you are VERY fucking good at neatly showing just how fucked up that post history is. It really does paint a compelling picture of why shit like that should not be allowed to run rampant in forums.

[Katchii]

Im not the one that claimed BS first so if your yet to provide data to back yourself up then its not up to me to do the work for you, thats simple logic.

But you HAVE claimed BS and then not provided evidence. So, practice what you preach, or don't ever expect anyone to ever do the same for you.

And again, it is not up to the person claiming BS to show proof that it IS BS, it's up to the person who made the original claim to show why it's NOT BS.

"No U"

"nuh uh"

and

"Because I said so"

are not facts or data. And that's almost entirely what your arguments consist of.

Why should i dignify anyone with a response when they are too lazy to back themselves up in the first place.

I'm not going to listen to this double standard, hypocritical bullshit from you.

Use simple logic, if you claim something is BS/ a lie then you have to prove it first.

No, it's not simple logic and no I (or they) don't. It's up to the person making the initial claim to show proof that what they stated is NOT BS, if someone is challenging you on it.

Someone claiming BS is essentially asking you to prove what you said. So, prove it.

[Thestrawman]

Most of the playerbase is PC, of 1.3 million that bought horizons only 200k are from console players, steam charts are around 9k players so even if that was the same on both consoles thats still a very small playbase actually still playing.

SC has already stated it has 30k players on average each day with 100k each day when an event is active.

Prove it. /10chars

[kenn9530]

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If you cant even be bothered to provide evidence when you claim something is BS then your not worth replying to, dont claim BS if you cant prove it.

The last few pages of your replies are you refusing to provide any support for your claims and insisting everyone else has to. Now you provide a single example and you are acting like you were in the right all along. More bullshit from the biggest bullshitter.

Your analysis of numbers is just as bullshit as everything else.

You are comparing a day's total against an hourly concurrent.

Absolutely absurd.

As usual your unable to back up your words with anything, just proving that its yourself that is talking BS, dont claim someone is talking BS without backing it up.

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Huh, looks like the Javelin actually has an interior and you'll get to tour it in the upcoming event. Since the Javelin is travelling between the orbital space stations, I wonder if you can stay on board the Javelin while it departs a station and travels to another. If you can... then that would mean the moment the Javelin got far enough away from a space station, it'd be out of the armistice zone... which means you can pull out your gun and go on a shooting spree inside a UEE Navy battleship? So like, if you and an entire server of players board the Javelin, can you take out all the UEE personnel before the Javelin reaches the next space station? Could you hijack the ship? Man, that would be awesome! (Inb4 you get teleported off the ship when the Javelin tour is over and it leaves for the next space station).

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If you can actually hijack the Javelin, then I'd reckon that it's guns would could actually rip apart the Bengal's shields (too bad the Bengal's hull is set to be invincible, though )

[Mehrunes]

LoL @ "100 hours". Should I post your quote of you saying that? Or is that BS too?
LoL bro, why do you keep owning yourself?

The opening monologue from MoP's trailer suddenly popped into my mind. Leaves and whatnot.

[Attackrabbit]

Most of the playerbase is PC, of 1.3 million that bought horizons only 200k are from console players, steam charts are around 9k players so even if that was the same on both consoles thats still a very small playbase actually still playing.

You realise you don't have to play it through steam?

[masterblaster0]

As usual your unable to back up your words with anything, just proving that its yourself that is talking BS, dont claim someone is talking BS without backing it up.

The hypocrisy is unreal. Using fake numbers is not backing something up. So yes, you are talking bullshit as per usual.

And falling back on the 'No U' position as a response. The forte of bullshitters the world over.

Steam's database page, as seen here lists charts as peak concurrency, which is to say the maximum number of players logged into the game via Steam at any one time during that day.
Note the banner at the top of the page which states Players Logged In Right Now - 10,553 at this moment in time. Obviously it does not account for 40%-60% of players who log in through Frontier's launcher or play via XBox/PS.

[Beazy]

The newest form of entertainment on youtube: Crash speed runs.

[ldev]

Wow this clown space carnival just continues. I guess it will continue for so long, as they got a ton of money from people.

[Kyanion]

If you cant even be bothered to provide evidence when you claim something is BS then your not worth replying to, dont claim BS if you cant prove it.

You claim things are bs and yet reply to everyone and call stuff BS. It is almost like you are obligated to do so.

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The hypocrisy is unreal. Using fake numbers is not backing something up. So yes, you are talking bullshit as per usual.

And falling back on the 'No U' position as a response. The forte of bullshitters the world over.

Steam's database page, as seen here lists charts as peak concurrency, which is to say the maximum number of players logged into the game via Steam at any one time during that day.
Note the banner at the top of the page which states Players Logged In Right Now - 10,553 at this moment in time. Obviously it does not account for 40%-60% of players who log in through Frontier's launcher or play via XBox/PS.

Something something BS.

But for real trying to find the data of actual players of games when we're talking multiple systems, multiple LAUNCHERS and when companies don't provide the data is just as pointless as people trying to find sub numbers for WoW.

[Dhrizzle]

Most of the playerbase is PC, of 1.3 million that bought horizons only 200k are from console players, steam charts are around 9k players so even if that was the same on both consoles thats still a very small playbase actually still playing.

SC has already stated it has 30k players on average each day with 100k each day when an event is active.

Your comparing the number of players Elite has concurrently (logged in at the same time) on Steam with the total number of people playing Star Citizen in a day. Without knowing how long someone plays on average you can't accurately judge how many people are playing Elite each day. If the average play session is 1 hour that's 240,000 people, even if it's as long as 8 hours it still matches Star Citizen for daily players. And that's just Steam, Elite is playable through its own launcher, the Epic game store (which recently gave the game away for free, Playstation and XBox. At a guess the majority of accounts will be either Frontier's own or through Steam, but anecdotally the game saw a big influx of players so there's likely a strong playerbase there too.

Some more numbers - in March Elite reported 500,000 players a month to their investors. In December Chris Roberts said Star Citizen had 750,000 players over the entire year.

[Kyanion]

Your comparing the number of players Elite has concurrently (logged in at the same time) on Steam with the total number of people playing Star Citizen in a day. Without knowing how long someone plays on average you can't accurately judge how many people are playing Elite each day. If the average play session is 1 hour that's 240,000 people, even if it's as long as 8 hours it still matches Star Citizen for daily players. And that's just Steam, Elite is playable through its own launcher, the Epic game store (which recently gave the game away for free, Playstation and XBox. At a guess the majority of accounts will be either Frontier's own or through Steam, but anecdotally the game saw a big influx of players so there's likely a strong playerbase there too.

Some more numbers - in March Elite reported 500,000 players a month to their investors. In December Chris Roberts said Star Citizen had 750,000 players over the entire year.

So much for that SC is the premier space game that 'everyone is playing' narrative Anderson loves to use Twitch stats for as if Twitch means a lot whole lot about the health of a game.