1. #14181
    Quote Originally Posted by kenn9530 View Post
    Dont embarass yourself
    Talking about embarrassment, after the amazing:

    Quote Originally Posted by banmebaby View Post
    *Ken in a Nutshell*
    I bring you, Anderson on the long run:
    (A re-post… because last time posted, it totally didn’t get deleted by the moderation for being posted by a totally not alt-account, good thing I backed it up.)


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    Might want to go through my post history more thoroughly



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    Topic: “Hate”
    TL,DR Ver.: Criticizing or poking fun at anything Star Citizen related makes you “hater”, however it’s totally fine shitting on other video games or users as long as its in favor of Star Citizen. A moldy strawman hypocritically flung around as a poor attempt to discredit what other users posted.


    Quote Originally Posted by MrAnderson View Post
    haters will hate no matter what product or company

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    Considering the numbers of NoManSky or Elite Dangerous id say the "p2w buggy pre-alpha tech demo" is doing alright.
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    Elite is so barebones that people need a second monitor running netflix or they fall asleep playing it.
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    Elite Dangerous player takes on Star Citizen for comparison
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    Compared with Elite or Dual Universe which had/have higher entry costs to be able to play the alpha and smaller testing periods made/make Star Citizen more appealing to back.
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    The alpha tops charts on Twitch leaving games like Elite or EvE in the dust.
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    But the handful of planets and moons in Star Citizen are more complete and detailed than all in Elite, there's more gameplay loops in Star Citizen than in Elite. I mean you can't even leave your ship and walk in stations or engage in fps battles, much less have the ability to get into other players ships and steal them or partake in multicrew activities. You can't load your rover inside other players ships...
    Quote Originally Posted by MrAnderson View Post
    They've produced much more than "4 planets", all at a much higher quality than anything you'll ever find in Elite
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    Oceans are OK'ish for a procedurally generated full planet, still miles better than anything Elite or any other space game has delivered, which was the point.
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    I don't think the quality of the screenshot as anything to do with the potato-quality of ED planets
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    And ultimately it's just a waste of time arguing with someone so invested in hating a video-game. It only fuels their hate and that's not what this thread should be about.
    ....

    Quote Originally Posted by MrAnderson View Post
    No point in comparing with elite because it's game systems aren't deep enough and well connected enough to allow the kind of gameplay that Star Citizen does
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    Also you keep bringing up that kid's game NMS as if it has anything to do with me or Star Citizen. Development in one single Star Citizen ship has more complexity than both NMS and Elite together
    Quote Originally Posted by MrAnderson View Post
    please don't compare Frontier and Elite with CIG and Star Citizen. Frontier is has shareholders to cater to, they want profit above everything else.
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    Comparing ED with Star Citizen makes no sense, just because they are set in space and you can fly spaceships doesn't make them competitors or the same kind of game.
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    Topic: The superiority complex
    TL,DR Ver.: Reminds me of The Naked King tale, often portrays himself as quite the “intelectual”, a man of facts & logic, only here expose lies and correct the misinformation (unless such lies and misinformation comes from backers such as Kenn of course…), while everyone else is just a small brain hate fueled dirty peasant who can’t even start to grasp the magnitude of Star Citizen’s development, meanwhile his facts will just keep changing out of pure convenience and whenever confronted with it he will bury his head deep in the sand, a slimy naked coward - "Am I out of touch? No, it's the children who are wrong."



    Quote Originally Posted by MrAnderson View Post
    I post facts and evidences that expose lies and misconceptions
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    Star Citizen may not have been officially released and in a deep alpha stage of development that is open to the public willing to buy a basic package.
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    The fact that Chris Roberts created a company from nothing and that after 6 years of work and without the released of a single title its valued at 500 million dollars and in your head you see it as a bad thing not only showcases how strong is your delusion and axe to grind against cig and chris roberts but also your naiveness and childish view of how game development and business in general works in the real world.
    Quote Originally Posted by MrAnderson View Post
    Well considering the game is released (since 2014)
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    Big difference is that Star Citizen Alpha is clearly and officially an unfinished game in active development and not released and sold as a finished and polished experience
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    Because Star Citizen Alpha is clearly marketed and labelled as a non released
    Quote Originally Posted by MrAnderson View Post
    If you're not ready to endure the uncertainties that come with game development and are just looking for a complete and polished game experience you shouldn't pledge for crowdfunded games. Period. Stick to officially released games and if you're interested in a product in development wait for it to release and review it before committing any money to it. Simple as that.
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    Star Citizen is released though, and it's been playable since the very first prototype back in 2013.
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    The scope changed to bigger and better things, if you are in a hurry you should not put money on games in-development but on released games, your fault, deal with it.
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    Changing stances as you go.
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    Calling out their bullshit is easy because they have no leg to stand on.
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    They dont care about facts or reasoning, just being "right”
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    Topic: The toxicity
    TL,DR Ver.: By now you should already be aware that hypocrisy is quite the common theme, poking fun a company is toxic behavior, flaming the living shit out of you for it is just “straightnening” plain hard facts, and “facts don’t care about your feelings, liptart!”.


    Quote Originally Posted by MrAnderson View Post
    Glad we've kept that little subset of toxic gamers out of the game. It's our pleasure.
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    I don't give a F*** if you or anyone else likes it, what I give a F* is haters shitting on it because of personal grudges or petty reasons, twisting words out of context or going as low as lying to attack it.
    Quote Originally Posted by MrAnderson View Post
    Your reaction seems one of a depressed poor lowlifes who cant find strength to get a nice paying job, still trying to find a way to leave momy's house and complaining about expensive things that you don't even have to buy much less enjoy to have a fulfilling life .
    Quote Originally Posted by MrAnderson View Post
    because your dumb and a troll with nothing else but a grudge. Stop wasting everybody's time with useless goon rubish.
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    You're full of shit. Lying and deceit it's all you got.
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    Hahahah staling? You guys seing this shit? That's what I talk about being dishonest and full of bullshit.

    Another pathetic display of intelectual dishonesty

    And please keep your goon bullshit in the ed/sa shitholes.
    Quote Originally Posted by MrAnderson View Post
    Why does it always have to resort to blissful ignorance with the haters?
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    you are full of shit, like most of the kid's who are angry with Chris Roberts because he "broke his promise" you have no problem in lying and deceiving to get your way.

    It seems to me that the problem is that you can't manage your feelings. Your heart generated hype that your brain can't handle.

    You have no capacity to think clear and for yourself.
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    You and the other haters with an axe to grind , dumb as dumbells
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    Basicaly you're another entitled brat
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    Why does it seems im discussing with 5 year olds?
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    you lack the knowledge and the intelligence to see further than what your red tinted binoculars allow you to.
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    You (and others) seem to get overly emotional about this game and it's development
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    I believe you're letting your emotions getting in the way though....I think you're still too invested in being angry and "fighting a war" that you'll never win, because it's mostly happening in your head.
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    I'm fine with "critics" or detractors as long as they aren't acting in bad faith or being hostile to being accountable for their shitposting or when called out on their hypocrisy and general own flaws
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    How am I Insulting people?
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    Not insults just straightnening plain facts.
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    Topic: twitch lives matter
    TL,DR Ver.: Did I ever tell you that Star Citizen has more viewers than two other games that shouldn’t be compared to Star Citizen unless I’m the one comparing them to Star Citizen? No? Good, because it does, it’s the most watched space game on twitch, that’s games, with space in them, almost an entire thousand of viewers, big stuff, right next to other crazy popular titles like Bloons TD 6, in case you forget I’ll next time I want to address specific topics, together with half a dozen YouTube videos.


    *Cue the cricket sounds*
    Quote Originally Posted by MrAnderson View Post
    The game is still in alpha stage and it's already the most watched space game on twitch.
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    The game never played better, they constantly top twitch views in the space game genre
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    Star Citizen is the most promising space game and the most viewed on twitch.
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    Star Citizen is the most played and watched *space* game on twitch surpassing similar genre titles like EVE, NMS, X4, Elite and so on.
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    That's why it's top in the engagement on twitch compared with games of the similar genre.
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    The alpha tops charts on Twitch leaving games like Elite or EvE in the dust.
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    Star Citizen regularly has more players/streamers on twitch than the other space games.
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    I don't think I need to post again all the streamers and viewers enjoying the game on Twitch right now do I?
    Quote Originally Posted by MrAnderson View Post
    has established itself as the most streamed and watched space game on Twitch.
    Quote Originally Posted by MrAnderson View Post
    That's why Star Citizen twitch stats increased greatly as they improved performance, added atmospheric planets, more missions, professions, gear, ships, weapons etc.
    Quote Originally Posted by MrAnderson View Post
    If you look carefully you can also see the amount of people playing Star Citizen in the Twitch platform. It's the "Streamers" stat. For example, NMS has had more streamers but they play for less time so get less "watched hours" and "viewers".
    Quote Originally Posted by MrAnderson View Post
    Being the most streamed space game on the Twitch platform makes it the most played space game on the Twitch platform.
    ….Zzzzz…

    Quote Originally Posted by MrAnderson View Post
    getting a bit repetitive and kinda desperate by now
    Quote Originally Posted by MrAnderson View Post
    What's the intention of reashing the same old posts year after year?
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    you keep harping about how many subs a youtuber has like any of it matters. I post videos as visual examples of many of the topics discussed, that's it. Such an weird hill to die on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrAnderson View Post
    i.imgur.com/flrVzR9.png
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    Ohh so much buthurtness...
    Quote Originally Posted by MrAnderson View Post
    No need to deflect anything.
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    If you post whatever shit you like on a public forum expect to be called out on it.
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    Not my fault you dont remember your own posting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrAnderson View Post
    A alpha game in development doesn't because it's pointless to make a tutorial before all the pieces are in place. If you do it will become outdated in the next patch and be a waste of time.
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    Due to the ever changing nature of alpha it would be a waste of time and resources to make an in-depth ingame tutorial because it would be obsolete by the time it was ready.
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    It's useless to do a tutorial for a game in development since things can change considerably from patch to patch. From keybinds to game mechanics every patch changes something along the way.
    Quote Originally Posted by MrAnderson View Post
    Star Citizen Alpha 3.19 patch went live with much goodies like new player tutorial
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    A quick reminder that these are just a few posts found by a fairly quick search on very specific words on this thread, and to avoid being accused of taking them out of context, you can just click each individual quote and read the entire post.
    Also, please don’t confuse people like Kenn & Anderson as the “Star Citizen Community”, they are just a vocal minority part of it that will turn even on other members of the community as soon as they put Star Citizen development into question. Despite whatever noble intentions presented, the truth is that they can’t keep a story straight, they will lie, spread misinformation, and show extreme toxic and hateful behavior towards other users and video games, they are everything that they are supposedly against, the only difference is that they do it FOR Star Citizen, it’s fanaticism in the most hypocritical way possible.

    On another topic, what an amazing couple of weeks it has been for Star Citizen, I know I’m a bit late to the party, but holy shit CiG PR is top notch, blaming the community throwing thousands and thousands of dollars their way for their own inability to meet their own goals, bravo!




    Quote Originally Posted by Scrapbot
    Note that once your point total comes to 45, your account will be permanently banned. If you wish to avoid this, I would strongly recommend you refrain from participating in this thread further if you are unable to control yourself about issues you have previously been warned about.
    Please, I should have been permanent banned ages ago already, it’s not like it takes a genius to realize that I only pop here once in a while to have a giggle or two at the expense of a few very special individuals and that’s about it. To be fair, it’s not like there is much to discuss about this project considering how slow it moves anyway, and even if something new happens it just boils into a one-sided discussion, where the people who disagree will just repeatedly tell you that you are full of shit or just too fucking ignorant to understand anything… and then there’s the random ass moderation, that makes no fucking sense tbh, I mean, Kenn has been saying this sort of shit since 2015, why the fuck would you even bother banning him now for it? Might as well let him be, at least it’s entertaining to read and it keeps the thread alive.

    That said, it was fun while it lasted, thank you all, peace out my friends!
    Last edited by banmebaby; 2023-05-20 at 04:12 PM.
    Ahahahaha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by banmebaby View Post
    --snip--

    This saga truly was amazing to keep up with. I do hope this is not the end for you. Truly a joy to read.

  3. #14183
    Quote Originally Posted by banmebaby View Post
    That said, it was fun while it lasted, thank you all, peace out my friends!
    That was truly impressive. A bit unhealthy, but impressive. Not like the two will learn, or answer without ignoring this, but whatever.
    As for banning, eh... Pointless discussion.
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    Take that haters.
    IF IM STUPID, so is Donald Trump.

  4. #14184
    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    That was truly impressive. A bit unhealthy, but impressive. Not like the two will learn, or answer without ignoring this, but whatever.
    As for banning, eh... Pointless discussion.
    They are not here to learn. Kenn already basically slipped working for the company.
    Modern gaming apologist: I once tasted diarrhea so shit is fine.

    "People who alter or destroy works of art and our cultural heritage for profit or as an excercise of power, are barbarians" - George Lucas 1988

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    *surprise Pikachu*
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

  7. #14187
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkAmbient View Post
    Strange way to spell "never".

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    2022 was supposed to be the golden year of SC alpha

    REEEEEEEEEEE
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    it's clearly missing a "... for now!" somewhere in the sentence !

  10. #14190
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkAmbient View Post
    This doesn't mean anything, they are working on static server meshing so they can release Pyro. They will still need to work on server meshing to get to the ultimate goal of dynamic server meshing after that. So this OMG server meshing pushed to 2023 is stupid. It just shows that they will work on server meshing, static and maybe dynamic till the end of the year since that's how far the schedule reaches. Guess what the progress tracker is a schedule for time features are being worked on. They will extend, stop and restart several times in some cases. It's just an internal schedule. Sorry to burst your CIG is the devil bubble. On this one you're just wrong.

  11. #14191
    Quote Originally Posted by Yelmurc View Post
    This doesn't mean anything, they are working on static server meshing so they can release Pyro. They will still need to work on server meshing to get to the ultimate goal of dynamic server meshing after that. So this OMG server meshing pushed to 2023 is stupid. It just shows that they will work on server meshing, static and maybe dynamic till the end of the year since that's how far the schedule reaches. Guess what the progress tracker is a schedule for time features are being worked on. They will extend, stop and restart several times in some cases. It's just an internal schedule. Sorry to burst your CIG is the devil bubble. On this one you're just wrong.
    Kenn is that you dodging bans again?

  12. #14192
    Quote Originally Posted by Thestrawman View Post
    Kenn is that you dodging bans again?
    Lol no, I just saw some wrong information being spread so I figured I'd make sure everyone knew how the progress tracker worked.

  13. #14193
    Quote Originally Posted by Yelmurc View Post
    This doesn't mean anything, they are working on static server meshing so they can release Pyro. They will still need to work on server meshing to get to the ultimate goal of dynamic server meshing after that. So this OMG server meshing pushed to 2023 is stupid. It just shows that they will work on server meshing, static and maybe dynamic till the end of the year since that's how far the schedule reaches. Guess what the progress tracker is a schedule for time features are being worked on. They will extend, stop and restart several times in some cases. It's just an internal schedule. Sorry to burst your CIG is the devil bubble. On this one you're just wrong.
    It doesn't mean anything? It means server meshing won't be in the game in 2022. I mean the reality is server meshing has been pushed back many times. But hey if you want to defend a company who lies to people that give them money, by all means. Die on that hill if you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelmurc View Post
    Lol no, I just saw some wrong information being spread so I figured I'd make sure everyone knew how the progress tracker worked.
    Wrong information? Server meshing will not be in the game in 2022 as shown by their own roadmap. YOU are the one spreading wrong information if you believe something else.

  14. #14194
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyanion View Post
    It doesn't mean anything? It means server meshing won't be in the game in 2022. I mean the reality is server meshing has been pushed back many times. But hey if you want to defend a company who lies to people that give them money, by all means. Die on that hill if you want.
    The progress tracker going until 2023 does not mean part of server meshing will not be released in 2022, it just means they will be working on server meshing through the rest of the year. They only need static server meshing to be working for Pyro to be implemented. That does not show only static server meshing it shows all work on server meshing. Static server meshing may get pushed to 2023 but that progress tracker does not show or prove that.

  15. #14195
    Quote Originally Posted by Yelmurc View Post
    Static server meshing may get pushed to 2023 but that progress tracker does not show or prove that.
    A lot of that is down to the fact that the roadmap has increasingly less and less use over time as CIG continues to miss dates and recently communicated that they were not sharing more detailed information about what's being worked on beyond the immediate next patch.

    We're on our third version of the roadmap built from the ground up to be better, and it's still essentially as useless as the first version was. It's just been a big time sink with no actual value created for CIG or backers.

  16. #14196
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    A lot of that is down to the fact that the roadmap has increasingly less and less use over time as CIG continues to miss dates and recently communicated that they were not sharing more detailed information about what's being worked on beyond the immediate next patch.

    We're on our third version of the roadmap built from the ground up to be better, and it's still essentially as useless as the first version was. It's just been a big time sink with no actual value created for CIG or backers.
    I agree with this. I feel them showing the schedule leads people to believe the bar ending is when the feature is done. Which is usually never the case. If you want to see when a feature is complete the best way is when you see the downstream teams working on the deliverable. Its confusing to some so I an see the mix up. It would probably be better if they just surprised everyone with a patch every 3 months on the PTU and we learn about what's happening from that.

  17. #14197
    Quote Originally Posted by Yelmurc View Post
    I feel them showing the schedule leads people to believe the bar ending is when the feature is done. Which is usually never the case.
    Yes and no. This is on them and how they structure/communicate around it, but also around the expectation that the "end" target for a feature on the roadmap is when it will be delivered. Will there be additional work on it? Absolutely, but that's when the tech/feature/content is ready to be shipped. If that's not what the end date denotes on the roadmap, then they have an even less valuable roadmap than already stated.


    Quote Originally Posted by Yelmurc View Post
    If you want to see when a feature is complete the best way is when you see the downstream teams working on the deliverable.
    Is that on the roadmap separately? Because I didn't see it, and if it's not, then I wonder where you got his info from and/or why they wouldn't include this in the roadmap since this sounds like pretty big information, no?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yelmurc View Post
    It would probably be better if they just surprised everyone with a patch every 3 months on the PTU and we learn about what's happening from that.
    They committed to an open, transparent development process. They signed up for this shit and it's way too late to back out now.

    This is yet another instance of CIG putting themselves in between a rock and a hard place due to terrible planning and/or decisions.

  18. #14198
    Quote Originally Posted by Yelmurc View Post
    The progress tracker going until 2023 does not mean part of server meshing will not be released in 2022, it just means they will be working on server meshing through the rest of the year. They only need static server meshing to be working for Pyro to be implemented. That does not show only static server meshing it shows all work on server meshing. Static server meshing may get pushed to 2023 but that progress tracker does not show or prove that.
    That is your interpretation of what the roadmap means. Considering server meshing has been pushed back for how many years now leads me to believe it is not coming in 2022 (or 2023 for that matter.) You have not corrected any 'wrong information' as you so claimed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkAmbient View Post
    What they forgot to mention is that it's 2023 of the yet to be announced calendar era that will be after AD.
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    Does the CIA pay you for your bullshit or are you just bootlicking in your free time?
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    I'm quite tired of people who dislike something/disagree with something while attacking/insulting anyone that disagrees. Its as if at some point, people forgot how opinions work.

  20. #14200
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyanion View Post
    That is your interpretation of what the roadmap means. Considering server meshing has been pushed back for how many years now leads me to believe it is not coming in 2022 (or 2023 for that matter.) You have not corrected any 'wrong information' as you so claimed.
    You claimed the progress tracker shows static server meshing is pushed to 2023. That is wrong, it does not show that. Which is wrong information at this moment. You can be wrong sometimes its ok, we all make mistakes.

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