[Megathread] Star Citizen

[kenn9530]

Alright I know I said it was the last reply, and it might end up in an infraction but I don't care. Once again you just lie, on something that anyone can verify in 2 freaking clicks. Here's the entire history

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Tell me, where did I talked shit about the game? I made one joke, in 2019 (3 years ago btw, could make the same joke today..) about the release date of 2016. Thats it, the rest, every "negative" replies were about you and another special poster on a topic not even related to this game. All the other posts were me interested in the project, and one where I said my piece about a video, which was my opinion. But obviously, any god damn critics for you is an insult to your family or something, because in your rainbow and pony land everything is perfect about SC and nothing can be criticize.

Keep on lying, peace.

You have more posts negative in this thread than positive, and all posts i have seen myself are all negative from you so no lying at all. I dont insult games in development or even after they are fully released, i had no issues with no mans sky or any other games that have not had the smoothest starts.

Until a game is fully released then complaining about things that will change is a complete waste of time, so the only other reason to post in here is because you just want to waste time and dont care about the project at all.

[banmebaby]

You don't need to do the math, all that data is available in the multiple Sites that track Twitch stats.

Then learn to analyze it instead of throwing bullshit accusations at people about dismissing data, you silly potato.

As Star Citizen development continues the game gets more fleshed out more enjoyable it is so more players join the fun and more funding it gets.

That’s just an opinion, one that backers such as Val, and the one’s going for refunds or selling their accounts on the grey market seem to disagree with it.

Hence the recurrent funding and player concurrency records year after year.

Yes, and fun fact, despite you bringing it up every couple of pages, I have yet to see anyone denying that selling JPGs is highly profitable for CiG… to bad that after a decade of such amazing financial growth the foundations for the game are still nowhere to be seen.

Twtch growth is a consequence of said evolution. One metric of many about player engagement.
Same can be observed in Youtube videos about the game. With content creators with millions of subscribers like JackFrags, LevelCapGaming, Ollie etc playing Star Citizen and showcasing the game to thousands of players that then buy the game to try it themselves.

Not necessarily, as a ton of people, including ones that work in marketing already explained it to you, multiple times. You just need it to be so, otherwise all these years of bragging about it might start looking sort of dumb… it’s called denial.

But this is something you can see for yourself, take heroes of might and magic for example, recently placed just as high as SC in Twitch, with an average of 3-4k viewers, yet if you check Steam Charts, it has an average 1k players… a video game can have much more, or much less players than views on streaming websites, depending on many factors, including game genre, updates regularity and whatnot.

Which is year after year the game sees the player concurrency increase and funding following it.

Yeah dude, you just bragged about it a couple of lines ago… how many more do you think until we get the tech that the entire project is relying on?

And this while still in alpha stage roughness, players knowing that everything will be wiped mixed with the hardcore nature of a sandbox universe open pvp with full loot and total loss of gear when dying show's there's a market for these kind of game experiences.

So, it's only natural that it will continue to grow and evolve into the game we all want it to be.

“alpha stage roughness”, after a decade of development sounds amazing.
I can’t wait to see how good this game will be in it’s beta phase in just 20 years from now.

As much as that might be a thorn in the detractors sides

That’s something you keep telling yourself to feel better with your weird emotional attachment to a video game company. I can assure you no one is losing any sleep for laughing at the ridiculous business practices of it.

You have more posts negative in this thread than positive

... and you have no negative posts at all.

I dont insult games in development or even after they are fully release

Yet another fat ass shameless fucking lie, and right after I shared a bunch of quotes of you shitting on Elite Dangerous

You are completely out of touch with reality, I'm starting to get worried.

[- Zephox -]

. I dont insult games in development or even after they are fully released, i had no issues with no mans sky or any other games that have not had the smoothest starts.

What has backfired, you have presented nothing to prove ED has anything that SC cant provide or more.

Yes ED is boring and has no content, but when its a fresh game you can still sink 100 hours into it before being completely bored as more than half the time spent ingame your not doing anything in the game, SC has a ton of content thats just fact.

No it doesnt and thats just a simple fact, the planets are essentially pointless apart from that one location on some planets, SC offers all the gameplay ED currently offers and more, ED is just a bland forgetful experience.



RDR2 and cyberpunk are 9 year projects, dont forget RDR2 had another year of development to get it working on PC, and thats just 1 single game, SC are making both a single player and MMO at the same time.

its a space game what would you suggest instant travel to anywhere you want, plus its not a loading screen you can get up and look at the universe from somewhere else on your ship as your not fixed to your seat, you can actually see the planets and such as your travelling. Its a travel system just like in any other MMO but your not actually stuck inplace. What is your suggestion to make it interesting for you, its traveling from one point to another, SC is a space simulation game.

you also complain about features not ingame yet, it took many years even after ED has launched to have many of the features star citizen already has within the game. Seems nothing is good enough for you. EDs flight and travel is terrible compared to what SC currently has ingame and no immersion at all.

The development time is more than reasonable for the size of the project, and the current version of the project is a good product of what is to come, if your not happy with the game then your wasting your time complaining. SC is more playable than ED currently for me, ED just doesnt feel like a space game at all.

problem is in ED is there is nothing to actually explore, you can fly around and land on some planets but there is nothing to actually do, for a true exploration you need things to do on a planet, maybe explore some ancient ruins, recover something from a crashed ship you detected etc.

ED exploration is boring and at the simplest level of gameplay. Doesnt matter if you have 50 star systems to explore or 1000, if there is nothing to actually explore on them, what is the point apart from the planet in space giving a good view.

If its exploration you want NMS is much better than ED for that, at least there is actually things to do on the planet.

ED is a bland game, i have experienced all it has to offer and it holds no interest, the exploration consists of flying around and scanning, there is no relevance or need to go down to the planets, they are just there to look at nothing else, you are not a person in the game and cant interact with things inside your ship or even leave it apart from the planet buggy, it has a limited multiplayer experience and it doesn't even feel like a proper space game.

Current alpha in SC has a greater sense of actually being a space game, ED your just disconnected as your only interactions are with your ship.

ED is not even an MMO, 1 of the largest ships in star citizen has more capacity than what limited multiplayer experience you get out of elite dangerous, the current flight model now is still better than ED where ships just fly around in a circle trying to kill you, since launch elite dangerous has not released anything relevant in terms of content, unless there is actually a point in landing on a planet what is the point at all in having them, ED has spent years trying to implement features that will be at release in star citizen and since the game was not designed for massive multiplayer in ED its just going to be more of the same irrelevant features you can only play in single player.

ED is a half decent game but it is massively lacking in depth and meaning, yes its will still take a while before star citizen is ready but that depth will be in the game at launch, ED is a glorified single player game and only has a small number of ships which are more than just a cockpit.

Attention to detail is everything in a space MMO, if there is no way to interact with things like panels in your ships, to self repairs, etc, its going to be pointless for ED to even implement ship interiors as its just going to be a room, with maybe a crew member to interact with and thats it.

Star citizen is offering the complete package with excellent graphics and attention to all the details that make a space game. Just tell me this what other game is offering for say a whole guild of 20 players to actually play on 1 ship together and be able to interact with other ships or whatever they want, hell no other game is even offering a group of 5 players to fly around space in one ship and there is only 1 ship in Elite the anaconda atm that could do that purpose.

Y1our the one spewing BS, stretch goals were not a target of what money they needed to make the game, they were just to see the communities interest in expanding the game, a AAA MMO cant be made for less than a few hundred million.



ED has barely any gameplay loops and they are basic with nothing intesting about them, you can explore in SC currently, you can trade, fight, buy ships and upgrade them, bounty hunt, fight alien ships, FPS gameplay, explore cities, outposts, cave systems, unlawful and lawful missions, gain reputation, hunt players, get arrested and have to break out of jail or serve your time, create your own content like races, and much more, so it is an actual fact you can do everything in SC that ED offers and a hell of alot more.



I have over 100 hours of ED gameplay i know how bland and lacking the gameplay is in that game, and i know everything you can do in it and its not much.

Golden buzzer winner of I never say anything bad about games. Have not even checked your WoW arguments, or your posts on Lost Ark thread, or anywhere else and did so in 3 minutes as can't give you more attention span :P
@banmebaby, mind doing the honours since you are in the case for more proof?

[banmebaby]

@banmebaby, mind doing the honours since you are in the case for more proof?

I mean… how much more do you even need? It won’t make a difference, the dude is completely oblivious, he will just keep saying whatever needs to be said to defend anything CiG related against whatever “the haters” are saying, you can just repeat whatever he said 20 pages ago and he will argue against it while accusing you of being full of BS and knowing fucking nothing about it.

[kenn9530]

Golden buzzer winner of I never say anything bad about games. Have not even checked your WoW arguments, or your posts on Lost Ark thread, or anywhere else and did so in 3 minutes as can't give you more attention span :P
@banmebaby, mind doing the honours since you are in the case for more proof?

Pointing out a few flaws in a game is not insulting the game company or developers, i have also never said any of those games were bad, so it seems you lack a basic ability to actually understand anything. Some games just dont have longevity to them because they dont add in enough content or gameplay loops.

You will not find anything from me saying x company is terrible or the devs are incompetant like some posters in this thread or me even saying a game is terrible or bad.

[banmebaby]

i have also never said any of those games were bad

*5 minute search*

i would say WoW is a bad game as its terrible and boring offering no challenge

ED is just a bland forgetful experience.

ED is a bland game, i have experienced all it has to offer and it holds no interest

ED is boring and has no content

ED is just a dissapointment for a space game

You are a compulsive liar. You need to stop. Find help.


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If you use twitch as a metric for popularity then gas station simulator is more popular than WoW, what ppl watch on twitch means very little in how good a game actually is.

Where is the "Hey Anderson, dont talk BS about things you will never understand."?

See, this is what I love about this thread, these two come here almost every day accusing others of arguing in bad faith, lying and hating while always trying to take the moral high ground, stopping the misinformation, shining a light upon those filthy lies, promoting constructive criticism…. what a load of transparent bullshit, they don’t give a flying fuck about any of it, they are worse than everyone else here combined, all they do is lie, deceit and hate upon everyone who doesn’t stand with their corporate shilling, it reeks of hypocrisy, and it’s done in such a sloppy way that people can’t but stumble upon piles and piles of evidence of it.

Kenn seems to believe that twitch views mean doesn’t translate into quality nor popularity… when it comes to other games, when it’s about Star Citizen, he just goes quiet as a rat while Anderson brags about it every bloody month, then you have MrAnderson who’s here to “post facts and evidences that expose lies and misconceptions” yet, so far hasn’t said a single word to the hundreds of contradictions that Keen keeps spewing around… see, it's not Star Citizen that people hate, it’s people like you two, people with no principles, that will say just about anything to fulfill their own agenda.

[MrAnderson]

Then learn to analyze it

No need to get rattled, numbers are numbers and engagement growth is engagement growth. More people play it because more people can get more enjoyment from the game as it becomes more accessible hence fun to play. It's just data, but it's the way it is;

[banmebaby]

No need to get rattled, numbers are numbers and engagement growth is engagement growth. More people play it because more people can get more enjoyment from the game as it becomes more accessible hence fun to play. It's just data, but it's the way it is;

That’s a cute way to weasel out of it, as usual, you should post it over a sunset and share it on Facebook, on the bright side, at least you were finally able to prove a point, it does actually seem easier to bury the head in the sand than to admit how wrong and full of shit.


… and here’s also my random YouTube video to show that I’m also contributing to the thread.

[MrAnderson]

No need to be angry that the game is thriving. As it gets developed more players join the fun. It's only natural.

[Bebethebebe]

No need to be angry that the game is thriving. As it gets developed more players join the fun. It's only natural.

When you play WoW on a private server, sometimes people ask in general chat "what is the population of the server?"
The answer is always same:"50"

What is the population of SC servers?

[ldev]

"Their individual blocks are written in C++ and they have bootleg chromium inspector which is essentially reinventing the wheel"

Lmao, how soon will they start rewriting it in Rust and set back development for another 20 years?

[banmebaby]

No need to be angry that the game is thriving. As it gets developed more players join the fun. It's only natural.

Did you know that people in order to mask anger, often just project it into those that they are angry with? I understand that those are points that make you uncomfortable, it can’t be easy admitting such levels of hypocrisy, but to avoid them in this way sort of hints on desperation.

[MrAnderson]

Did you know that people in order to mask anger, often just project it into those that they are angry with? I understand that those are points that make you uncomfortable, it can’t be easy admitting such levels of hypocrisy, but to avoid them in this way sort of hints on desperation.

Is that why they have to keep making new accounts because they get banned? Hypocrisy and desperation indeed.

Such obsession with hating a video-game shouldn't be made into a lifestyle though. Specially one that keeps growing year after year. Doesn't seem healthy or productive.

[Edge-]

Folks, knock it off. The bickering needs to stop. Keep discussion on the game. If you don't have anything new or topical to contribute, just don't post. The personal squabbles need to end.

[MrAnderson]

I'm over it, no point wasting time that could be better used making credits:

[banmebaby]

Because I don’t really care about this forum or its rules. I told you from the start that I’m only here to have fun at the expense of people like you, therefore I don’t need to do a half-hassled job trying to hide behind noble goals like you do, it’s completely fine if I get banned, as the nickname should indicate.

Now as Edge recommends, let’s stop the bickering and go back to our lovely discussion about the twitch stats that you keep insisting on bringing up so often, it seems that you got so distracting convincing yourself that I “hate” stuff that you conveniently forgot about it.

I’m still trying to figure out exactly who’s “dismissing data” or denying player/financial growth, because as far as I’m aware pointing out that Twitch/Youtube engagement is a poor metric for it doesn’t necessarily deny its existence, which is something that funnily enough even Kenn seems to be able to grasp.

Nice video though! But I prefer to farm my credits just by throwing my dollars at the monitor.

[Proskill]

fuck, i cant help but to reinstall the game. again...

i hope vulkan implementation will make it worth

[banmebaby]

fuck, i cant help but to reinstall the game. again...

i hope vulkan implementation will make it worth

Unless you really need the space on the disk, why even bother uninstalling? Just leave it be to hop on every now and then with every update to check it out like most people do. If you are looking for something more stable with a base progression system already in place, you should just seek alternatives until SC goes into a BETA version… although there aren’t that many to begin with, especially considering that Starfield just got delayed, still considering Bethesda track record I wouldn’t place much hope on it either.

[Proskill]

Unless you really need the space on the disk, why even bother uninstalling? Just leave it be to hop on every now and then with every update to check it out like most people do. If you are looking for something more stable with a base progression system already in place, you should just seek alternatives until SC goes into a BETA version… although there aren’t that many to begin with, especially considering that Starfield just got delayed, still considering Bethesda track record I wouldn’t place much hope on it either.

yeah disk space is the problem. i have like 120gb free to use. i rotate between WoW, SC and other games that require SSD xd

[ldev]

fuck, i cant help but to reinstall the game. again...

i hope vulkan implementation will make it worth

Lmao vulkan will save performance? DLSS would save performance somewhat, but that is too hard for these failures to implement.