[Megathread] Star Citizen

[banmebaby]

Kenn: WE don't want you guys in MY game!
Also Kenn: Use this code for 5000 credits in star citizen, tee-hee~<3 winky face!

Man, I love this silly goofball.

[Ausr]

We dont want ppl like you playing it anyway, if you cant see what kind of game and its future potential then i encourage you never to play it, we are happy to not have players like yourself in the game.

And this is how a game's population kills itself off from becoming successful.

"Go back to WoW if you don't like this game!"

[kenn9530]

And this is how a game's population kills itself off from becoming successful.

"Go back to WoW if you don't like this game!"

No its the opposite a game needs players who want to play the game and enjoy it, unlike many WoW players who whine like 2 year olds but still continue to play the game regardless, if you are not excited for a game like star citizen then thats not the type of player we want in the game.

[Antipathy1018]

Kenn: You don’t know shit of game development, just shut up!
Also Kenn: Moar graphics, moar data, moar server load! Simple logicz!

Boiis, we buying graphics cards for nothing, shit’s rendered server side apparently.

From the way it sounds I think Kenn is under the impression SC is a cloud based game, like he is playing it on a Stadia type service, with the way he believes it works.

[banmebaby]

From the way it sounds I think Kenn is under the impression SC is a cloud based game, like he is playing it on a Stadia type service, with the way he believes it works.

No, the poor guy just knows jackshit about anything.

However, his already deep, deeeeep, invested in this project…

Therefore, he HAS to defend it, against everything and everyone.

Thus the ridiculous amount of projection, as his posts mostly consist on “you don’t understand game development” and “you are just ignorant”, while not only he never backs up his wild claims, they often also contradict each other, and instead of recognizing it, or addressing it, he just sticks his head in the sand and doubles down on the “YOU KNOW NOTHING!”.

While its true that people should just ignore him as arguing with him is utterly pointless and a huge waste of time, it’s still provides a lot of entertainment… so, we just keep feeding it for the lulz sake.

[kenn9530]

From the way it sounds I think Kenn is under the impression SC is a cloud based game, like he is playing it on a Stadia type service, with the way he believes it works.

You do know they use EC2 aws right so part of it is cloud based in some capacity, SC is a shitload of data for just 1 single server to process and thats the whole reason why they are making meshing technology in the first place to spread out the work in the most efficient way.

[Ghost of Cow]

You do know they use EC2 aws right so part of it is cloud based in some capacity

No, that's not what they were talking about at all.

Stop digging that hole.

[kenn9530]

No, that's not what they were talking about at all.

Stop digging that hole.

I wasnt talking about cloud at all before so im not the one that cant do some basic research that they actually do use cloud services, some ppl in this thread dont even know what a server does it seems, it processes data, the more data it has to deal with the more impact that has on performance, star citizen has 1 server dealing with this while other games have many to do the same job and you still wonder why there is occasional performance issues.

The lack of understanding and logic in this thread is laughable.

[KrayZ33]

The lack of understanding and logic in this thread is laughable.

You guys KNOW it's open season when he just came back from a ban and has written this.
Someone say it! Please!

[XDurionX]

kenn9530 is pretty much the reason why anyone should avoid this game.

I imagine pretty much everyone who still defends this glorified screenshot generator after all these years of being shit on is like that.

[Ghost of Cow]

I wasnt talking about cloud at all before so im not the one that cant do some basic research that they actually do use cloud services, some ppl in this thread dont even know what a server does it seems, it processes data, the more data it has to deal with the more impact that has on performance, star citizen has 1 server dealing with this while other games have many to do the same job and you still wonder why there is occasional performance issues.

The lack of understanding and logic in this thread is laughable.

You don't even understand the difference between a cloud gaming service (Stadia) and a cloud server (using AWS as your game server).

Every time you talk you expose yourself. Just give yourself a break.

[banmebaby]

The lack of understanding and logic in this thread is laughable.

Indeed, a problem that seems to go away every time you go quiet.

[Amorac]

some ppl in this thread dont even know what a server does it seems, it processes data,

You mean me I guess, but I never said the server doesn't processes data. So bzzzt, you are wrong again.


You, as misguided as you are, believe the server load the entire models of the ships, NPCs, planets etc etc.


I say servers don't do that because that is not needed, and not needed data is useless and takes up resources for no reason. Servers load what is needed because loading everything is way to much data. A server does not care one iota about the model. You seem to think the server is looking with a camera on what is going on.

Also, explain the difference between a cloud based server vs owning your own server park. Give an answer and not "you no nothing hurr durr..."


You do realize AWS is just a fancy service to hire servers and have others take care of at least the hardware and, if you want, the OS, analytics (of for example resources used) etc so all you have to do is maintain your application.


The added benefit is that, usually, it is easier to upscale vs buying the HW when needed or having the HW not being utilized. It does however mean you usually have little to no control on finetuning the hw, like how the hard drives/storage are set up (block size, queue depth etc etc) if you need that.


Cloud computing basically a marketing buzz word. It's basically just renting a server and have someone else maintain it.


And you still think scaling a 3D model is increasing the load, yet you can't even muster a simple reply with reasoning other then 'you know nothing, scaling it to be bigger is more data' after being explained why it does not...... Learn some basic 3D modeling first. Oh wait, you likely think the server loads textures in as well I guess.. And how light rays hit the surface?

[Ausr]

No its the opposite a game needs players who want to play the game and enjoy it, unlike many WoW players who whine like 2 year olds but still continue to play the game regardless, if you are not excited for a game like star citizen then thats not the type of player we want in the game.

Nope.

What you are doing and saying is exactly what these types of players do when you even dare criticize the game. Go back, we don't want you, everything is perfect.

That meme of that dog sitting at a table while his house burns saying "This is fine" pretty much sums you up.

[Kyanion]

Nope.

What you are doing and saying is exactly what these types of players do when you even dare criticize the game. Go back, we don't want you, everything is perfect.

That meme of that dog sitting at a table while his house burns saying "This is fine" pretty much sums you up.

I mean it is even worse than that. If you're not excited for a game like SC they don't even want you (supposedly). Not if you are neutral, not if you are slightly positive about the game. You have to be excited. And it helps if you bring lots of cash with you too I'm sure.

It must be nice to make statements as if you are speaking for the entirety of a fanbase. I'll have to remember to say 'WE' when talking about any game I like playing when I discuss it anywhere.

[kenn9530]

No, that's not what they were talking about at all.

Stop digging that hole.

Im not the one that even mentioned anything to do with the cloud, i was posting to a poster that actually mentioned it so you may want to get your eyes tested.

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Its pretty simple since you dont seem to understand a complex game like SC has a vastly larger amount of data to process than a game like EvE so it effects server performance, the servers in SC dont operate currently as they would in the future as the devs have already explained this with server meshing presentation, a station thats loaded in the server doesnt dissapear when no players are on it, the backend service for that is not yet complete so the servers have to deal with much more.

CiG also remove a planet from the system and that reason was not just because it was not supposed to be there, it was to help with performance of the server.

You also dont seem to understand what scale means, in EvE a ship is closer to 18 cm long model when SC ships are hundreds of meters, that does effect performance on the server because its more data to process.

Its also beneficial to test the limits of what a server can actually deal with.

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Nope.

What you are doing and saying is exactly what these types of players do when you even dare criticize the game. Go back, we don't want you, everything is perfect.

That meme of that dog sitting at a table while his house burns saying "This is fine" pretty much sums you up.

Complaining about a game especially on this forum is pointless, also if you dont like something why are you constantly complaining about it, you are the one that loses because you are wasting your life complaining and not focusing on a game you like, CiG are the only company delivering the space game i have actually wanted for a long ass time.

I seriously doubt most of the posters in the thread are genuine anyway they are just here to talk shit and waste time.

How much time has certain posters wasted on replying to my posts i wont reply to, if they had any sense i would be on ignore but they are not here to discuss they are here to waste time and talk crap about CR or CiG.

[banmebaby]

How much time has certain posters wasted on replying to my posts i wont reply to, if they had any sense i would be on ignore but they are not here to discuss they are here to waste time and talk crap about CR or CiG.

My dude, a lot of people here, me included, already admitted that you are one of the big reasons why this thread is worth reading, your hypocrisy, your constant contradictions and the ridiculous crap you pull out from where the sun doesn’t shine to defend every tiny little thing related to this project is extremely entertaining to read, why would anyone deny themselves of such amazing free source of entertainment?

You on other hand, claim that Star Citizen is the best thing since sliced bread, yet you “waste time” here, and “talk crap” about every supposed “hater”, when you know, if you had “any sense”, you could just enjoy the game and ignore those people, instead of saying that you did, just to start quoting them again just a few pages later, like you did with me when another users asked you why you refused to address that ONE POST that you keep avoiding like the plague : )

[Kyanion]

Complaining about a game especially on this forum is pointless

Actually it is discussions about a game that is 10 years in and still in Alpha, Mr. 1302 posts in the thread defending it as if you were once paid to do so.

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you are the one that loses because you are wasting your life complaining and not focusing on a game you like, CiG are the only company delivering the space game i have actually wanted for a long ass time.

Yet you spend a shit load of time on these forums ready to defend it to the death if anyone mentions it in a negative light.

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I seriously doubt most of the posters in the thread are genuine anyway they are just here to talk shit and waste time.

I know right? Have you seen that wall of quotes about the one poster calling everything BS...oh wait a minute...

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How much time has certain posters wasted on replying to my posts i wont reply to, if they had any sense i would be on ignore but they are not here to discuss they are here to waste time and talk crap about CR or CiG.

If a person wants to shit on CR or CiG they are well within their rights to do so. If someone wants to defend the game or CR (lord I don't know why) they are welcome to do so. Just know that you will take fire for defending such a game like SC. 10 years, 450+ million dollars = Perpetual Alpha.

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My dude, a lot of people here, me included, already admitted that you are one of the big reasons why this thread is worth reading, your hypocrisy, your constant contradictions and the ridiculous crap you pull out from where the sun doesn’t shine to defend every tiny little thing related to this project is extremely entertaining to read, why would anyone deny themselves of such amazing free source of entertainment?

I know it makes my day to read some of this shit. The funny thing is you see what happens if certain people don't post in the thread due to various reasons, it either goes dead for awhile or some actual conversation takes place.

[Ausr]

Im not the one that even mentioned anything to do with the cloud, i was posting to a poster that actually mentioned it so you may want to get your eyes tested.

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Its pretty simple since you dont seem to understand a complex game like SC has a vastly larger amount of data to process than a game like EvE so it effects server performance, the servers in SC dont operate currently as they would in the future as the devs have already explained this with server meshing presentation, a station thats loaded in the server doesnt dissapear when no players are on it, the backend service for that is not yet complete so the servers have to deal with much more.

CiG also remove a planet from the system and that reason was not just because it was not supposed to be there, it was to help with performance of the server.

You also dont seem to understand what scale means, in EvE a ship is closer to 18 cm long model when SC ships are hundreds of meters, that does effect performance on the server because its more data to process.

Its also beneficial to test the limits of what a server can actually deal with.

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Complaining about a game especially on this forum is pointless, also if you dont like something why are you constantly complaining about it, you are the one that loses because you are wasting your life complaining and not focusing on a game you like, CiG are the only company delivering the space game i have actually wanted for a long ass time.

I seriously doubt most of the posters in the thread are genuine anyway they are just here to talk shit and waste time.

How much time has certain posters wasted on replying to my posts i wont reply to, if they had any sense i would be on ignore but they are not here to discuss they are here to waste time and talk crap about CR or CiG.

You don't want discussions about SC. Good or bad. All you want is to have everyone suck Chris's space cock and call him daddy since there is nothing wrong with the game whatsoever.

Seems like there are actually genuine people here... cept you.

It takes 2-3 minutes to refute anything you say. I can reply to you while I poop.

[kenn9530]

You don't want discussions about SC. Good or bad. All you want is to have everyone suck Chris's space cock and call him daddy since there is nothing wrong with the game whatsoever.

Seems like there are actually genuine people here... cept you.

It takes 2-3 minutes to refute anything you say. I can reply to you while I poop.

You dont have the ability to refute anything i say.

Noone else is making a game even close to what star citizen is doing and he is good at making space games, the game isnt released so there isnt anything wrong with the game because its all subject to change, im not even expecting it to be perfect on release and have never stated otherwise, Star Citizen just offers the best space game experience hands down noone can beat it.